Abortion Terrorism
A few weeks ago, a reader asked me to delve a little more into the group of anti-abortion folks who claim that it is “justifiable homicide” to kill a doctor who performs abortions. The theory suggests that if you believe that it is a “baby” or “person” in the uterus and someone is going to terminate it, then you are justified in stopping the “killer,” just like you would stop someone from killing a real, already-born person.
Let me first say that this group is clearly a fringe group of the pro-life movement. I have participated in a lot of discussions with those who oppose abortion and the vast, vast majority of them believe these folks are a bunch of kooks. But then there are a few out there…
The first time I heard about this theory was after the murder of Doctor David Gunn in March, 1993. The murder was front page news everywhere as it was the first time an abortion doctor had been killed. Things became extremely tense all across the country, abortion providers were on high alert and we were all waiting for someone else to blast away. Then, out of the blue comes a soft spoken minister from Pensacola named Paul Hill. I later learned that right after the murder, perhaps sensing an opportunity to get some exposure, he called a producer at “The Donohue Show” (the pioneer of talk shows) and told her that he actually believed that Michael Griffin, Doctor Gunn’s assassin, was “justified” in doing what he did. Of course, the producer, always looking for something sensational, immediately booked him on the show. Paul Hill sat right next to me on the show that day and told the crowd point blank that it was okay to kill Doctor Gunn and other abortion doctors.
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Soon thereafter, Paul and a few others saw an opportunity to scare the crap out of abortion providers, no doubt hoping that many of them would leave the field. So, they formed a loose knit group called “Defensive Action.” They gathered about 30 names on a petition from people who believed in the “justifiable homicide” defense. But they were careful. They never said “I will kill a doctor” because that would have landed them in jail. Instead, they just said it was “okay” to kill an abortion doctor, no doubt hoping that they would inspire some less-than-stable person to take up the cause.
Right after the first murder, a number of abortion doctors left the field and when word got out about this group, others fled. They were the ones who had always been on the edge anyway, so they were ripe to leave. Others, however, bought guns, bullet proof vests and other defensive devices. They were ready to do battle. One doctor out west walked me through his clinic and showed me how he had hidden a Magnum 357 in EVERY room in his clinic. “If they come in here shooting, I’m taking them all with me,” he vowed. Of course, the Defensive Action crowd got a lot of publicity. After all, fear sells newspapers, right? And Paul Hill and his crowd fed off of the hysteria.
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But, while I cannot prove it, I believe to this day that they never all got together in one room and plotted murders. They were too smart for that, they knew they were being watched. Meanwhile, I had an interesting reaction to this theory. I was talking to Paul Hill one day in a hotel and told him “you know, Paul, in some weird way I think your theory is consistent with your belief. If you firmly believe that the woman is carrying a ‘baby’ or a ‘person’, then I can see how you believe you should defend it from its impending death.” I added that it was a ridiculous notion in real life, of course, but “if we’re just talking about a non-actionable idea, then I hear what you are saying.” The next day, Paul held a press conference to let the world know that I, a staffer at the National Coalition of Abortion Providers, “supported the ‘justifiable homicide’ theory.” So much for a casual discussion about a ridiculous theory.
Abortion Terrorism
Of course, months later Paul picked up a gun and killed Doctor Baird Britton and he attempted to make his defense the “justifiable homicide” theory. The judge did not allow him to offer it. The movement, and that’s a stretch to call it that, quickly died down when their leader was executed in the chair a short while later.
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February 16, 2011 at 12:57 pm
Great post.
The best sentence is the last one where the dirtball abortion doctor killer Paul Hill was executed!
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February 16, 2011 at 1:02 pm
I agree, I am glad that guy was executed, they all should be.
The people that help them, and no they do not do these things without some help, should be investigated and charged as accessories.
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February 17, 2011 at 8:31 am
Actually, I oppose the death penalty and when Paul invited me to his execution I told him no because I did oppose it….
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February 17, 2011 at 11:27 am
Why warehouse the guy for decades?
Just exterminate these loosers.
Would you ever allow the death penalty?
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February 17, 2011 at 4:58 pm
Harmony, it’s cheaper to lock someone up for life. Also, too many have been found to be innocent after they’ve been executed. And since being in prison is very much like being in a same-sex high school, I think it’s worse punishment than the death penalty to be incarcerated for life.
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February 18, 2011 at 8:19 am
Sometimes Justice cost money, and it is worth it.
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February 18, 2011 at 9:54 am
Well, would you care to fine-tinue your sense of justice: would you rather kill someone to punish him or have him spend years hating the way he’s living the rest of his life?
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February 18, 2011 at 10:20 am
I prefer justice to vengeance.
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February 18, 2011 at 10:54 am
Arlene, I think justice would be getting the victim’s bereaved relatives back on an even keel despite their loss. Executing the offender might be part of that, but it might not. Neither life in prison nor execution might have anything to do with seeing that justice is done.
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February 18, 2011 at 6:57 pm
I think Arlene’s got you here, Chuckles.
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February 19, 2011 at 8:17 am
I understand better what our are saying Responsible.
A sense of Justice can be arbitrary.
I would defer that Justice to the family of of innocent doctor murdered by the Abortion terrorist – if that helped the heal.
You are right Responsible.
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February 21, 2011 at 5:00 am
How many frightening JHs are there in the US? Does anyone know?
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February 21, 2011 at 5:03 am
Pat,
After his execution I bet Hill was very shocked to be sitting next to Satan in eternal damnation rather then sitting next to Jesus as he probably thought he would!
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February 21, 2011 at 8:22 pm
Could someone write another post, this justifiable abortion terrorism thing and the pictures of those terrorist murderers like Hill, are making me ill.
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February 8, 2014 at 7:46 am
I was struck by the hotsney of your posting
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February 16, 2011 at 7:03 pm
Abortion is legal.
I am glad they executed the abortion terrorist.
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February 16, 2011 at 7:59 pm
I am against abortion also, but I am glad they executed those murderers like Paul Hill.
We cannot tolerate terrorism in this country even if we do not believe in Abortion.
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February 17, 2011 at 8:30 am
Actually, Justice, Paul called me a few months before his death and invited me to his execution! I declined…
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February 17, 2011 at 11:29 am
I would have gone.
I would like to bear witness to the extinguishing of a murderer to share with people what happens when you murder an innocent doctor!
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February 19, 2011 at 8:20 am
What it scary to get a phone call from an abortion terrorist. He might had friends in his terror Christian group that wanted to Murder you?
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February 10, 2014 at 8:53 am
More posts of this qutayli. Not the usual c***, please
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February 19, 2011 at 4:56 pm
Look at what the JH nuts are trying to do in SD!
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February 16, 2011 at 1:00 pm
I believe, as I have heard with my own ears in a small community, that there are a lot of prolifers that believe in Abortion violence.
If I have heard a lot in a small community, then magnify that around the country!
Not all prolifers, but thousands upon thousands.
People against abortion are just too ready to break laws and commit violence.
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February 16, 2011 at 2:20 pm
People against abortion ready to commit violence? I agree with you but had to chuckle because these violent-prone folks, who think abortion is violence against a non sentient blob, can, in the same breath, think violence against a living, productive human (likely a friend/brother/sister/mother/father/neighbor/etc) is less important, less human? My word! What is this wrong with these folks?
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February 16, 2011 at 2:24 pm
I agree on your position on Abortion rights.
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February 17, 2011 at 5:54 am
The slippery slope: first Kate adopts Chuckles’ “unreal child.” Now she’s “a non sentient blob.” Next week she’ll be “the hateful, malignant assassin.”
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February 17, 2011 at 11:31 am
John,
I have no idea what you just wrote.
Could you explain more clearly?
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February 17, 2011 at 5:00 pm
Will, he is acting out an allegory about rescuing himself from death. research aborticentrism and look for the “allegorical struggle” page.
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April 23, 2011 at 4:35 pm
Will, Kate used to call children in the womb “Unreal.” Her she changes that to “non-sentient blobs.” That’s worse, of course, don’t you think? I’ll bet next she’ll say something even worse than that and call them “hateful, malignant assassins.” That dumming down is called “the slippery slope.” Comprende?
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February 17, 2011 at 8:33 am
Let’s face it, they believe the fetus and us real live people are the same in terms of rights. And, as you would stop someone from killing your cousin, they think they are doing the same when they kill an abortion doctor…
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February 17, 2011 at 9:46 am
those real live people and us real live people
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February 17, 2011 at 11:34 am
John,
I am trying,
But seriously,
I cannot understand the point you are trying to make.
Are you trying to make a riddle?
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February 17, 2011 at 11:36 am
Will,
Before you get caught in stupid discussions with John, please know he is a Fan of the people you describe disliking.
That is who John is.
And yes, he is very difficult to understand and does not make sense.
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February 17, 2011 at 11:33 am
That is what makes them crazy.
That’s why most people disagree with them.
That’s why most of them when studied have psychological disorders.
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February 16, 2011 at 2:26 pm
What about all the non murder abortion terrorism that people experience.
Are those people
Justifiable Abortion Terrorism?
Who are these people that support terrorism against the rights of people that believe in legal Abortion?
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February 18, 2011 at 10:23 am
These JH people are just old fashion crazy.
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February 16, 2011 at 2:29 pm
The anti abortion people that believe in violence are so easy to profile.
Typically Christian, believe in the Right to Life, Pro Death Penalty, Conservative, won’t give a little more in Philanthropy to help children in present poverty, and so on . . .
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February 17, 2011 at 11:38 am
Why are so many of the Murderers Christians?
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February 8, 2014 at 12:11 am
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February 17, 2011 at 5:03 pm
Penny, while they are largely Christian, they are Christians of too weak a faith in God to beieve that they really will gain eternal life. They attempt to use practical action– anti-abortionism– to produce results that in this world will show them what they cannot believe by reason of their faith. There are many, many Christians who are quite comfortable with abortion, because they have a better perspective on God’s relationship to them.
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February 16, 2011 at 5:51 pm
Hmmmm. I thought I posted here about the correlation between one’s feeelings of insecurity and powerlessness and one’s propensity to overdo things. while most so-called “pro-lifers” can control to some degree their desire to become heroes, the ones who most violently act out are the ones who are consumed by their impotence against Death. In some degree, all of them want to kill people who provide or facilitate access to abortion. The more helpless they feel about fighting abortion, the more strongly they want to commit violence. That’s the correlation.
And of course underlying that hatred and fear of abortion is its representation of their hatred and fear of their own death. they want the fetus to be them, and they want to know the fetus will be rescued, because it reassures them they will be saved. It’s a dysfunctional approach to self-therapy.
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February 17, 2011 at 8:02 am
You’re relieving my paranoia, Chuckles. I thought I was the only one being blocked.
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February 18, 2011 at 10:26 am
You should be blocked, you are a menace.
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February 9, 2014 at 2:47 pm
Eninhgtenilg the world, one helpful article at a time.
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February 16, 2011 at 9:56 pm
Just got back from Buffalo and omygosh there’s more in this one than in any other. Leme look more closely.
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February 16, 2011 at 9:57 pm
First, I’ll read the comments.
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February 16, 2011 at 10:01 pm
Poor Chuckles. What’s he supposed to do? The people on his side are almost as illiterate as the quasi-prolifers who also drive him nuts!
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February 22, 2011 at 11:43 am
quasi — long or short a
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February 16, 2011 at 10:02 pm
I’ll read and respond to the rest tomorrow when the scotch wears off.
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February 17, 2011 at 8:06 am
OK, daylight. This is so good I’ll take it paragraph by paragraph.
…if you believe that it is a “baby” or “person” in the uterus and someone is going to terminate it, then you are justified in stopping the “killer,” just like you would stop someone from killing a real, already-born person.
This is it exactly, Pat, except for “real.” Why did you have to insert that lie?
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February 17, 2011 at 8:37 am
Welcome back, John. Not sure what you mean. Aren’t you and I “real?” Geez, i didnt realize you folks read every friggin word I write…
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February 17, 2011 at 9:09 am
Sure we’re real, Pat. Common now. What you’re saying, though, is the people you’re helping to kill, and we’re trying to protect, are not real.
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February 18, 2011 at 9:22 am
good point
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February 18, 2011 at 7:01 pm
They’re blocking me again, Pat. I should be gone but I’m staying because of you. You have outwitted me. That’s never happened before.
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February 19, 2011 at 8:23 am
Are you joking, you are outwitted in every conversation.
Your ego must really blind you from reality!
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April 23, 2011 at 6:22 pm
do you believe your self to be able to outwitted? because your a man of such benevolence, such congruity, show us your strength then oh dunkle.
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February 17, 2011 at 8:10 am
Paragraph 2: “I have participated in a lot of discussions with those who oppose abortion and the vast, vast majority of them believe these folks are a bunch of kooks.”
Right again. That’s why I put more blame on us, not you, for the unprecedented, forty-year and continuing, slaughter of young people.
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February 17, 2011 at 11:42 am
Yes!
40 years of R v W still standing after continual onslaught from the crazies.
John,
Do you really think R v W will be overturned before you die of whatever illness harms your cognition?
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February 17, 2011 at 12:59 pm
no
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February 17, 2011 at 8:12 am
I’ll start with paragraph 3 later.
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February 17, 2011 at 8:38 am
Keep the analysis coming! Did you sign the Defensive Action petition, John?
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February 17, 2011 at 9:09 am
No one asked me.
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February 17, 2011 at 11:44 am
What is the Defensive Action Petition?
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February 18, 2011 at 9:22 am
Read my piece for the answer…
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February 18, 2011 at 10:27 am
Gosh, you won’t spoon feed us?
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February 19, 2011 at 5:43 am
I’m saving Pat’s and Campbell’s exchange above.
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February 19, 2011 at 11:00 am
Nope! You gotta do your own research on this one 🙂
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February 17, 2011 at 9:13 am
Paragraph 3: “Paul Hill sat right next to me on the show that day and told the crowd point blank that it was okay to kill Doctor Gunn and other abortion doctors.”
Good for Paul. I would add “morally okay but maybe not strategically.” I would have added that, probably, because I’m a coward.
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February 17, 2011 at 11:46 am
So you agreed with Paul Hill’s desire to kill the doctor?
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February 17, 2011 at 1:00 pm
yes
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February 18, 2011 at 5:43 am
I’d better qualify this. Paul Hill did not want to kill a doctor. He wanted to stop a killer from getting to the fifteen people waiting to be murdered. He also had a wider purpose. He wanted to show us that being forceful is the only effective way to end legal child killing.
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February 18, 2011 at 9:30 am
Well, he stopped that particular “killer’ but the next day those women went to Alabama to find another “killer”. Paul was an idiot, delusional and he accomplished absolutely nothing, John. NOTHING. Except, being the true pro-lifer (as CG would suggest), he left behind his own kids to fend for themselves wouldH would de
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February 18, 2011 at 10:31 am
Dunkle,
That is a wormy way to say he wanted to kill a doctor and you agreed with him.
Why are you trying to revise yourself.
Hill did go on to kill a doctor and you have written your support over and over again of this notion.
Don’t you realize people read right through you?
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February 18, 2011 at 7:03 pm
God, I hope not!
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February 19, 2011 at 8:35 am
John,
I am deeply saddened by what you do. I gave you free will to do right, yet you still do wrong.
People do read right through your self righteous misguided writings.
It is just like when I spoke to David, the former King of the Choosen people while he was being oiled down by Nubians.
There would be consequences to his misdeeds.
John, you need absolution, and sooner rather than later is my recommendation.
By the way, I was very specific, I Never said Catholics were the chosen people.
Catholics are not the chosen people.
Jews were, and still are.
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February 19, 2011 at 8:33 pm
Oh sure4, God can see right through me. Artie, though, said people could. That’s what scares me.
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February 20, 2011 at 6:26 am
Now for “Chosen People.” Christians and Jews come from the Israelites. Most of them followed Christ and became Christians (now Catholics). Those who didn’t stuck with the name Jews and formed the first schism (the more recent schisms being Muslim, Orthodox,, Protestant, and Modernist). Now let’s get back to baby killing.
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April 23, 2011 at 6:30 pm
do you think about the material you irate from your skull or does it simply flow out of your ears? he killed a doctor eventually? i mean come on but i do think your siphoning, to the “idiocracy” that comes from religion, humorous, but to get back your still wrong in that, you being a man gives you no basis to delineate the choices a woman has with her body. you will never feel how it is to have your feet on the stirrups, but maybe someone will make you comprehend someday.
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February 17, 2011 at 9:25 am
Paragraph 4: Good. I, though, would replace “less-than-stable” with heroic.
Paragraph 5: “Right after the first murder (sic), a number of abortion doctors left the field and when word got out about this group, others fled.” Just imagine the number of people alive today because of Paul.
Paragraph 6: “you know, Paul, in some weird way I think your theory is consistent with your belief. If you firmly believe that the woman is carrying a ‘baby’ or a ‘person’, then I can see how you believe you should defend it from its impending death.” Exactly, but just try to get that through the thick skulls of “the vast, vast, majority.”
Paragraph 7: again, exactly
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February 17, 2011 at 9:48 am
This one goes into my newsletter.
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February 17, 2011 at 11:48 am
How does one get your newsletter?
I am ProLife, but I do not believe in murdering people. Would the newsletter be suitable for me?
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February 17, 2011 at 1:01 pm
Sure, it’s suitable for everybody, friend and enemy. Go to skyp1.blogspot.com
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February 18, 2011 at 10:33 am
I checked it out before.
It is crazy rantings,
If you are into that, have fun.
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February 18, 2011 at 7:04 pm
You can’t check out writing if you can’t read, Artie!
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February 17, 2011 at 11:17 am
Long time ago, i remember my dad saying at the dinning table, being up to the death penalty, i remember i cried over this for days!!!
I still think is a bit too much, you can’t justify killing somebody for their acts just because “you are the law”…
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February 17, 2011 at 11:18 am
Because Christians are all hypocrites. How else can they live in the modern world while following the fairy-stories of a bunch of primitive desert-dwelling savages?
Paul Hill – Martyr or Murderer…
I sort of understand the vision of the pro-lifers. I don’t agree with the radicalism of it, but I do understand that (sorry my words) if you are “mature” enough to get laid, be mature enough as well to be responsible for the outcome.
YES! I know I will get crucified here for what I just said, but I never hided from anybody that I am not up for abortion 100%…
But, to say that it is justifiable to kill a doctor, an abortion doctor to be more correct, is an absurd!
Where is the Christianity of this people after all? They call themselves pro-lifers but to kill an abortionist is ok!!! That is justifiable??? PLEASE!
I think that before getting a shotgun, and go to the front of a clinic and KILL somebody, these so-called pro-lifers should ask themselves first a few questions:
1. What will happen to me if I go thru with this? (Be famous for 15 minutes or so / get arrested / receive the sentence / wait at the death roll / get injected with a substance that will take my life away / my family will suffer for my acts…) the list is big if I am to write all that will happen, but I just put some up here to highlight…
2. Is this act enough to stop abortion?
3. Am I going to make any difference?
Well… I believe that not only on my point of view, but most people out there the answer is
NO…
Abortion will keep happening, legal or illegal! Nothing will change that!
I don’t have the info on this to mention names, but I know that in a lot of countries abortion is not legal and still does happen, and worse, women die because of it… Actually I know one place, BRAZIL! And I do know people there that had an abortion…
The post that Pat did before this one, The Candidate’s Speech, was actually the subject of a talk I had with some people at my school the other day. I was afraid to make my point, because I heard a girl there saying at some point, is my body and I do what I want with it… Yes, it is you body, I thought to myself, but you can’t just justify having abortion after abortion… You got to take care of yourself not only to be pregnant but also to prevent unwanted pregnancy! But I didn’t mention that because I wasn’t there to get into an arguing!!!
So after I mention the post of The Candidate’s Speech, for my surprise, my teacher, who is a Christian, said that she agrees with me when I say that rape, incest and danger pregnancies are the only one that I do agree with the abortion! And we start to talk about things that happens in life, people who had done abortions before and now wants to be a mom but can’t. She also mentions somebody in her family that did about 4 abortions and now she can’t hold a pregnancy… sorry but that is a price to be paid!
I know that Pat will say things like:
– So what side are you Sonia…
I actually don’t have a side! Each one has the right to do what they think is good for them but they need to understand the consequences of their acts. Any act!
Killing a doctor will give you 15 minutes of fame and maybe you will be mentioned later in this kind of discussions, but don’t expect much more than that.
I think I said this before, if you want to go in front of the abortion clinics and try to change people mind, is kind of OK… but not everybody is there to have an abortion, the doctors are not advertising better abortion prices over their places, people who works at the clinics maybe not agree with it, but is a job that pay the bills and that is it!
Also, think that in order to change somebody’s mind you got to afford the consequences of it… Like Charles mention in the last post as well, open your wallet with $240,000 to make sure this fetus you are defending so much gets a chance in life, than we can talk…
But before you do that, don’t point finger anybody if you are not willing to help him or her out. You might not agree with what they do, but that is all you can do…
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February 18, 2011 at 9:32 am
so, what side are you on, Sonia? 🙂
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February 21, 2011 at 10:51 am
MIDDLE!!!!!!
I always said that… i don’t fully agree with people having abortion out of being irresponsible… but i also don’t agree about making it illegal. Making it illegal is the same as sending them to the botchers market to be killed. I just think that it should be a little bit more conscientious of people who use the service that they are “maybe” damaging themselves for a future… I am not a MD, so i just don’t have the real info on this. That is just the way i think.
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February 17, 2011 at 11:25 am
Only a maniac and menace to society would believe in this justifiable homicide.
From this Dunkle it appears that he is agreeable to help people like this. If he is, then is also a maniac and menace to society.
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February 17, 2011 at 5:06 pm
I agree, it is a despicable belief system.
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February 17, 2011 at 2:44 pm
The Justifiable Homicide crowd are a bunch of losers
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February 17, 2011 at 5:05 pm
I am Pro Life and absolutely find the concept of Justifiable Homicide in the realm of the clinically insane.
These people need psychiatric care immediately, before they murder more innocent people.
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February 18, 2011 at 5:29 am
Justifiable Homicide is an insane thought.
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February 19, 2011 at 4:55 pm
The JHers are goofballs.
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February 8, 2014 at 2:51 pm
That’s a qute-kwiticd answer to a difficult question
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April 23, 2014 at 8:24 am
It’s a pleasure to find such rationality in an answer. Welcome to the debate.
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