For the last few days, we’ve been talking a lot about Crisis Pregnancy Centers (CPC).
If you are pro-life, these CPCs are establishments that seek to offer pregnant women (or non pregnant women, for that matter) information about their options. The staff people at these centers sit back and wait for the women to come in, they then sit them down in, in a non-judgmental environment, tell them all about adoption, childbirth and abortion. Yes, their bottom line is that they are against abortion but they really just want to make sure that woman is educated and knows what resources are available to her should she decide to give birth.
If you are pro-choice, these centers lure women into their facility under false pretenses, pretend that they are a medical office by offering ultrasounds and fill the women’s heads with lies about how the perils, both emotional and physical, of this very easy procedure.
Coincidentally, in the wake of our discussions, legislation has been introduced in the U.S. House of Representatives and in the Senate called “Stop Deceptive Advertising in Women’s Service’s Act.” In their press release, the authors of the bills brought attention to the bill’s clever acronym: SDAWS.
Just kinda rolls off the tip of your tongue, doesn’t it?
If the bill became law, the Federal Trade Commission would be required to issues rules declaring that it is an “unfair or deceptive act” for a CPC to advertise that they are “a provider of abortion services.” The pro-choice groups are understandably elated and energized. One leader applauded the initiative and said “we should all agree that a woman should not be misled or manipulated when she’s facing an unintended pregnancy.” The troops are gearing up to storm the Congress to get this important legislation passed.
My initial reaction is that this is an incredible waste of time.
Now, I admit that I have not done a full-fledged review of every CPC in the country, but I would bet that house that hardly any of them actually advertise that they “provide abortion services.” I mean, c’mon, even the sleaziest CPC staff person would never, with a straight face, say that. And if anyone can show me differently, I totally welcome the evidence and will offer a mea culpa.
Sure, many of them, if not most, say that they provide “abortion information,” but, technically, that is true. They do offer “information” on abortion, albeit in many cases it is the wrong information. But it is “information” nonetheless.
So, to me, the big question is: why are these pro-choice Members of Congress and the pro-choice groups spending time and resources on trying to pass a bill that – in the unlikely event that it becomes law – will have practically NO impact? And, for argument’s sake, let’s say the FTC does find a totally whacky CPC director who says in their Yellow Page ad that they provide abortion services. The FTC will theoretically bring some kind of action against them and chances are that that CPC will just agree to not say it in the future. And if they refuse to change their ways, maybe they’ll be shut down. Well, that leaves only THOUSANDS of more CPCs to go after! Way to go folks!
I certainly appreciate the energy of the authors of these bills and I am sure they will now get a nice donation from the pro-choice political action committees because they have shown they are pro-choice “leaders.” Meanwhile, they’ve issued their press releases and are getting some attention on pro-choice blogs, websites, etc.
But, in the long run, ain’t nothing gonna change.
And around and around we go….
Related articles
- It Sounds a Little Hypocritical to Me… (abortion.ws)
- These Pictures Speak a Thousand Words (abortion.ws)
- The Problem With The Abortion Debate (outofthegdwaye.wordpress.com)
- Pro-choice activists rally for abortion providers to keep counselling role (guardian.co.uk)
- Making Money From Abortion (abortion.ws)



August 5, 2011 at 7:59 am
“Several people who have come out of the clinics and become pro-life have said that the clinics including Planned Parenthood give out low dose Birth control pills intentionally so that they will fail and the women get pregnant and return to the nice people who gave them the free pills for an abortion. I have no idea if this is true or not but it has been reported by several people. I could be a possibility.”
This is one of the silliest things you have ever said, Deanna. If the clinics are so devious about this, why give them ANY kind of pills? You have suggested that they are blood sucking money mongers, so why even go through that charade? But wait! Why not give them condoms with little holes in them? That will get them!
And then you say because “several people” said this was true. And then you say so it might be possible. Do you just take every thing that is said and, when it lends something to your side, take it for granted? Do you EVER, EVER question the credibility of anything or anyone on your side?
At least I have on a number of occasions criticized our movement. You never do it.
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August 5, 2011 at 8:48 am
Despite her generally articulate writings, Deanna has demonstrated repeatedly that she does not understand how to evaluate materials for bias, how to assess methodologies in research, or how to evaluate the effectiveness of her own rhetoric. She is simply unable, bless her heart.
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August 5, 2011 at 9:51 am
Why is it Kate that I am expected to believe the “personal testimonies” of the people on your pro-choice documentaries but you refuse to even acknowledge the personal testimonies of people who have come out of the abortion industry? It’s a double standard. One must look at each story individually and decide based upon that persons testimony if it appears to be true. You can’t just throw them to the side because you don’t agree with their stand. Why do you think Carol Everett left the business when she was making millions?
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August 5, 2011 at 11:04 am
DeAnna really is deficient in her abilities to distill information.
Sadly most ProLifers suffer from the similar mental deficiency of Christianity.
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August 5, 2011 at 2:02 pm
Karl, do you have any reasonable explanation as to why these former abortionists who were making tons of money would all of a sudden lie and leave their careers?
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August 6, 2011 at 3:42 am
Karl really is deficient in his abilities to distill information.
Sadly most ProDeathers suffer from the similar mental deficiency of anti-Catholicism.
(Thanks, Karl, you guys give me some of my best stuff.)
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August 6, 2011 at 4:55 am
“Bless her heart”…to that I say, “AMEN”….
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August 6, 2011 at 9:01 am
Thanks, LDM
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August 6, 2011 at 10:12 am
Lorraine, do you have a reasonable explanation?
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August 6, 2011 at 9:24 am
>>>bless her heart<<<
JAJAJAJAJAJAJA
i saw that and had to laugh because i know what i am thinking when i use that phrase.
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August 6, 2011 at 5:25 pm
We do have our little cliques, don’t we.
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August 5, 2011 at 9:39 am
When you consider the high profile names that have said this you have to look at it with some interest. Several former abortionists have said it. The movie Blood Money goes into detail about it. Carol Everett, an owner of two abortion clinics in the Dallas-Fort Worth area, wanted to become a millionaire. “And the way for me to be a millionaire was to sell 40,000 abortions a year.” Everett wanted students to “come to us with their sexual questions so we could put them on a low dose birth control pill we knew they’d get pregnant on. Of course we passed out condoms but we never passed out high quality condoms; we always used seconds or defective condoms. Our goal was to get the kids pregnant.”
Abbey Johnson said, ““Planned Parenthood absolutely has quotas that each center has to meet, They have an abortion budget and they have a certain number of patients that you have to perform abortions on every month, and there’s a dollar amount attached to each woman.”
Joan Appleton, former abortion nurse and NOW activist says,” Now the pharmaceutical companies and Planned Parenthood and the abortion industry were not stupid. They knew that the less dose of estrogen in those pills, the more likely it was they were going to fail. But you don’t have to worry. We can bring you right back here for another abortion.They even used percentages, by the way. Thirty percent failure rate, because were going to use the real low estrogen pill. So that means thirty percent will come back. And if we forget to tell you, by the way, that if you get the flu and have to be put on antibiotics, the chemical reaction between the birth control pill and the antibiotic renders the birth control pill worthless, and totally ineffective, so we have another twenty percent. Thank you, come back around.”
As far as the condoms go a January 2005 consumer reports article shows that tow of the three types of condoms that Planned Parenthood distributes ranked the lowest out of the 23 brands that they tested failing air inflation tests. Consumer Reports reprimanded them for it and The Chicago Tribune carried a story about it as did Newsday.
I could go on with more quotes but I think you get the point. You have to ask yourself the question why these people would say these things if there weren’t some truth to it. Some pro-choicers say that they do it for attention or their 15 minutes of fame or money but that makes no sense especially for Carol Everett who made millions off abortion. As did Bernard Nathenson. It was their conscious that got the best of them. You have to investigate the motive. They were pro-choice, in the industry and came out, some of them with very tough after effects. Why would they go through all of that unless there was some truth to their stories? It makes no sense.
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August 5, 2011 at 9:51 am
Like I said, she is simply unable. High profile is a humpty dumpty term. Using a handful of anecdotes does is not meaningful nor is it applicable across large populations. It bears repeating when I wrote:
Despite her generally articulate writings, Deanna has demonstrated repeatedly that she does not understand how to evaluate materials for bias, how to assess methodologies in research, or how to evaluate the effectiveness of her own rhetoric. She is simply unable, bless her heart.
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August 5, 2011 at 10:01 am
So Kate, give me some sort of reasonable answer as to why these people who had a lot to loose, would say these things if there were not at least some truth to it?
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August 5, 2011 at 11:02 am
Reasonable? You want reasonable? You go first.
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August 5, 2011 at 2:00 pm
I think the reasonable answer is that it happens. Bernard Nathanson was the hero of the pro-choice movement. I mean he helped start NARAL for heavens sake and was responsible for 75,000 abortions. Then his conscience started bothering him and he realized what he had been part of and he stopped and started telling what went on. All of a sudden he was a liar, a cheat and someone who couldn’t be trusted. It would be akin to Cecile Richards converting to pro-life today. Would you believe her if she admitted what was really happening? Or would you guys keep up the whole “they are lying for their 15 minutes of fame” story? It makes no logical sense why he would leave a lucrative high profile career n order to “have fifteen minutes of fame.” His story alone convinces me that there is truth to what the ex-abortionists say. There is a website called “Meet the Providers” that has detailed testimony of quite a few of these ex abortion professionals. They do NOT get paid for their testimonies and even their travel is on their own dime most of the time. They left their careers and their reputations behind. SOMETHING real happened to them, it had to have had. The only logical explanation is that they are telling the truth.
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August 5, 2011 at 3:18 pm
Kate,
DeAnna just doesn’t have the brain power to even understand how dumb her answer is.
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August 5, 2011 at 4:59 pm
Allison, do you have a reasonable answer as to why you think they would lie about that or why they shouldn’t be believed?
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August 5, 2011 at 8:14 pm
Like I said, Deanna, Do YOU EVER LISTEN?????
Reasonable? You want reasonable? You go first.
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August 5, 2011 at 8:22 pm
The joke is on the prolifer numbskull who so brilliantly stated:
“I think the reasonable answer is that it happens”
IT HAPPENS
Just like a bumper sticker . .. the intellectual prowess of Deanna and her ilk…
[SH]IT happens… Brilliant….
Have any more words of wisdom? Any more nuggets of inspiration to share? Gosh, we’re waiting with baited breath. We need so desperately to hear the GD truth—Gospel of Deanna
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August 5, 2011 at 8:39 pm
So Kate, lets hear your theory then…why did they leave lucrative careers and sacrifice their professional reputations and say those things if nothing happened. You don;t like my theory so lets hear yours…
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August 6, 2011 at 7:58 am
You have a theory? Theory defined as: “A plausible acceptable general principle or body of principles offered to explain phenomena”
Just what is your theory?
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August 6, 2011 at 3:50 am
Another one for posterity. I scroll through these, and when I see Kate, sometimes Rog or Chuck, but especially Pat get upset, I suspect d’s onto something. That’s when I peruse, and sho ‘nuf.
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August 6, 2011 at 8:48 am
Kate
You are attempting discussion with incapacitated Pro Life DimWits, what do you expect?
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August 6, 2011 at 11:13 am
“Incapacitated pro-life DimWits”? Ok Artie….show something us DimWits have said with proof to show it was wrong…..pleaaaaaasssseeeee???
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August 7, 2011 at 10:54 am
DeAnna,
Kate is correct in her opinion about you.
DeAnna, do you have any advanced professional credentials at all?
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August 8, 2011 at 10:06 am
DeAnna,
I’m curious too.
What is your highest degree? And what discipline is it in?
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August 5, 2011 at 11:13 am
The Right-To-Lifers approached Jesus and said, “Master, tell us, is not abortion murder and those who perform it murderers? ”
Knowing their judgmental hearts, Jesus replied:
“Abortion is indeed murder. But any society which forces a woman to bring a child into an overpopulated world teeming with unwanted and abused children, while simultaneously seeking to prevent young men and women from receiving adequate education and instruction about birth control is guilty of a more serious crime.
Unable to say a word the Right-to-Lifer’s silently dispersed.
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August 5, 2011 at 1:48 pm
If you think that is the way it is going to look then you need to go re-check the Bible. What the bible says is that murderers will not inherit the kingdom of God. And it tells Christians to to take a stand for those being taken away to death, to be a voice for those who have no voice. I am sorry if you think that is judgment. It is not! It is simply being a voice for those who have no voice. Furthermore, it says that children are a gift from God and a reward from him. It also says that He created those children in their mothers wombs and His thoughts towards them are precious. The ‘overpopulated” world teeming with unwanted abused children is because mankind has walked away from God’s principles and chosen to live their way instead of His. These are the results of that sin. They are not reasons to brutally murder the children before they are born. The ‘adequate” instructions that God gives in the scripture for these problems are (1) If a nation follows God’s principles then that nation will be blessed, including the people in it, (2) abstain from sexual relations until marriage (3) in marriage consider children to be a gift not a curse (4) Take care of the poor and suffering in the world. If mankind, including Christians and pro-lifers did these things to the degree that the Bible mandates then these problems would disappear. But it won’t happen because we want things both ways. We want to curse God, say we don’t believe in Him, live our lives our own way causing pain and suffering along the way, and then whine and complain because we aren’t blessed. Then when the predicted things that happen to nations that curse God begin to happen, instead of repenting we just curse Him harder and curse those who try to explain why things are going bad. It’s a no win situation as long as we live in rebellion towards our maker. But I can assure you He will not be reprimanding the ones who stand up for the dying babies, unless of course they are the tiny minority who really do it in a horrible way calling the women names and such. I admit those are out there but they are not the norm.
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August 5, 2011 at 8:17 pm
Blah, blah, blah [Jesus], blah, blah [christian] blah, blah, blah [God, blah, blah, blah
Is this the best you can do? Do you have nothing better than a bunch of nonsense promulgated by bible-thumping, southern idiots?
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August 5, 2011 at 8:42 pm
You brought it up…….you open the door…I walk through it. If you don’t want to hear Christian “blah blah blah” then don’t bring it up. You have one of the biggest double standards of anyone I have ever seen. You talk about my religion but I’m not allowed to? No way Kate!
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August 6, 2011 at 5:25 am
You are simply stating your opinion of the truth. There’s a difference.
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August 6, 2011 at 5:27 am
Oh, puhleeze…[sniff, sniff] “you talk about my religion but I’m not allowed to?” Who said that you’re not allowed? More of your imaginary ideas?
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August 6, 2011 at 9:25 am
Not allowed without you starting the “Bible Thumping” mess that is.
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August 6, 2011 at 8:56 am
DeAnna & Dunkle,
Hammered Hard again by the powerful vast intellect of Pro Choice thoughts compared to the Anti Abortion Insect brains of Christian Pro Lifers.
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August 6, 2011 at 7:51 pm
Shut up, Feather Time. You’re getting annoying.
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August 5, 2011 at 8:50 pm
Bible thumping southern idiots huh? cute! I think I will make a website with that name in your honor 🙂
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August 6, 2011 at 5:30 am
Start a web site in my honor? I guess Rog is right to be suspicious of your claims
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August 6, 2011 at 9:39 am
Suspicious of my claims? what does one thing have to do with the other?
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August 6, 2011 at 9:49 am
that would just go along with how she seems to be stalking you.
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August 6, 2011 at 9:21 am
So tell me Kate, if you are so against the Bible, Jesus, God and Christianity as you have made clear on this blog then why do you call yourself Reverend? I was looking at the Religious Institute website and what do you know? There was an endorsement there by the Reverend Kathryn L. Ranieri, Muhlenberg College, Allentown, Pa. where she had signed the Religious Declaration on Sexual Morality, Justice and Healing.
So, I’m wondering, are you a Christian Reverend that calls other Christians derogatory names or were you posing as a reverend on that website for some reason? If you were posing as one isn’t that deceptive? I mean the topic of this article is about deception, is it not? By the way, where did your “Reverend” credentials come from? Did you go to seminary? It just seems strange to me that you lash out at Christians so when you are one yourself.
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August 6, 2011 at 12:57 pm
Rev? Really! I know she’s a pee haitch dee, a war hero, a surgeon, and a libby par excellance, but a lady of God too. Boggles the mind. Oops, and track star: I tried talking to the paragon this morning at the AWC, but she ran.
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August 8, 2011 at 10:12 am
Where does Kate call herself a Reverend DeAnna?
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August 6, 2011 at 5:32 am
I THINK THAT DEANNA IS BEING PAID BY THE WORD….T0 SHUT THIS SITE DOWN!!! DOES ANYONE ELSE GET THE SAME IMPRESSION THAT I DO???
HER “EPISTLES” STARTED OUT “SPORADIC”… BUT NOW EVERYTHING SHE WRITES…OR COPIES GETS LONGER AND LONGER…SHE JUST RAMBLES…IT IS ALL A “BUNCH OF CRAP” AND THE ONLY PERSON THAT LIKES IT IS “DUNKLE”…THAT RIGHT THERE SHOULD TELL YOU SOMETHING!!
THIS IS THE SAME THING THAT HAS HAPPENED TO OTHER SITES….WE ARE BEING RAILROADED FOLKS…SURELY I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT SEES THIS……I ADMIRE… “KATE”…SHE KEEPS TRYING TO PLUG AWAY AT ALL THE “BUNCH OFCRAP” DEANNA WRITES BUT I AM SURE SHE IS FED UP TOO!!
HELP PAT..SURELY THERE IS SOMETHING THE MODERATOR(S) CAN DO….I AM AFRAID YOU ARE LOOSING PEOPLE (THAT OF COURSE IS WHAT HE/SHE WANTS)….
OK..I HAVE SPOKEN MY MIND!!! WHAT DO THE OTHER “CHOICERS” THINK????
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August 6, 2011 at 7:52 am
Lorraine, Thanks for your comments.
That’s the prolife industry’s overall goal–to silence those who speak for women, to deny women justice, to silence women themselves…and to do it by any means.
Go back over the years and you’ll see an evil force within their ranks to shut down clinics, to write and enforce targeted regulations of abortion providers, to violate anti competition rules such that landlords, vendors and city officials are afraid to tell the anti abortion, anti women misogynists no.
Pat, what are your thoughts here?
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August 6, 2011 at 8:51 am
Well Stated Kate.
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August 6, 2011 at 9:27 am
No Kate, our goal is to save babies from dying and to save women from the pain of knowing they killed their babies. Shutting down clinics, correcting pro-choice rhetoric and tearing down pro-choice propaganda are simply tools to that end.
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August 6, 2011 at 9:20 pm
NO, DEANNA, YOUR ILK’S GROUP IS TO CREATE A RIGHT WING CHRISTIAN THEOCRACY
You are a handmaiden to the men in your little tiny world and you are too dumb to realize how you have been used. You’re a TOOL for their own misogynistic gains. I feel sorry for you because you’re a smart woman who is sorely misdirected. You sell out your own for the love and compassion of men and some ridiculous notion of a sky god. Someone as intellectually capable as you could do far more good than beat women into a passive submission that you think you enjoy. It’s a pathology that you can overcome.
Good luck with that.
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August 6, 2011 at 8:52 am
Lorraine,
You are always a voice of Reason in a sea of Pro Life Rhetoric, Misogyny, and Insanity.
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August 6, 2011 at 9:28 am
So Elena what part of what I said was “Pro Life Rhetoric, Misogyny, and Insanity.” ? Be specific with documentation please.
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August 6, 2011 at 4:57 pm
Thanks Elena..I was the Director of a clinic for over 20 yrs. and I have been up against the likes of deanna before…but it just “pisses me off” that she is trying to shut down a site where most of us have come together for a healthy exchange of thoughts…
Then along came deanna…
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August 6, 2011 at 7:55 pm
I was the only prolifer here before deanna, LDM. Are you saying we had a healthy exchange of thoughts then?
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August 6, 2011 at 9:23 pm
Poor,poor,poor Deanna. She needs an intervention because she doesn’t realize the impact on her psyche of the balderdash “Pro Life Rhetoric, Misogyny, and Insanity.” She’s just a slave ship in shoes (not that she would know who said that because she’s a racist).
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August 6, 2011 at 9:11 am
LDM, you are always a voice of chaos in a sea of pro-death rhetoric, vituperation, misogyny, and insanity.
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August 6, 2011 at 9:18 am
Another stupid Dunkle reply, just worthless noise trying to drown out intellect.
Dunkle worships convicted murderers.
Burns American Flags.
What a loser.
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August 6, 2011 at 9:24 am
A whisper can drown out that intellect.
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August 6, 2011 at 9:30 am
That is dumb Dunkle.
What are your intellectual accomplishments?
Screaming at women?
Worshipping murderers?
Your resume, I bet, is pretty pathetic.
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August 6, 2011 at 12:59 pm
Better than yours. I got past sixth grade.
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August 6, 2011 at 9:17 am
“AND THE ONLY PERSON THAT LIKES IT IS “DUNKLE”…THAT RIGHT THERE SHOULD TELL YOU SOMETHING!!”
Of course it tells you something, LDM! It tells you that deanna’s writing is so powerful it stands on its own. It doesn’t need, and would actually be damaged by, what all the killers’ helpers on here get: you adolescent illiterates supporting them with high school cheers on the one hand and anti-life curses on the other
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August 6, 2011 at 9:23 am
Again moronic statements.
DeAnna’s writings are weak and reveal the pathetic nature of the whole pro life movement.
You and she have been admonished by other pro lifers because of your even extreme pro life radical views.
You are despised by even most pro lifers.
Thank you for helping us keep Abortion legal and safe by your radicalism.
You and DeAnna are great for the Abortion cause!
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August 6, 2011 at 9:31 am
Carrie, If my “writings are weak and reveal the pathetic nature of the whole pro life movement.” Then provide documentation to prove me wrong. Otherwise, if you do not, just like all of the rest that I have given that challenge to it will prove that your accusations are baseless.
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August 6, 2011 at 9:31 am
Oh, well, let me get serious for a moment: ” You and DeAnna are great for the Abortion cause!”
If that were true, Carrie, you, as a promoter of that cause, would not try to shut us up, now, would you. I’d add “think before you write” if I didn’t realize that for you to “think” is impossible.
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August 6, 2011 at 9:45 am
John, DeAnna,
Please keep writing.
Not only is it great for Women’s rights.
It is hilarious to realize how stupid people can be.
Please continue, your entertainment value is priceless!
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August 6, 2011 at 9:56 am
DeAnna,
Please stop.
I do not know if you are Catholic,
But you embarrass all of us who are Christian.
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August 6, 2011 at 10:17 am
“Father” Reynolds,
Nope! Sorry! No can do! I will not stop exposing the lies….including yours….. that lead to babies deaths and the harming of women !
FYI…I am not Catholic.
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August 6, 2011 at 1:02 pm
Father Reynolds is actually Mother Petunia
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August 6, 2011 at 9:24 am
Paid by who? No, I’m not paid to do anything. I was invited here to give my pro-life perspective and that is what I have done. Tell me will you, if what I write is crap, then what part of it is crap exactly? Give details with documentation to back up your accusation please. Because otherwise it isn’t clear what you are talking about.
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August 6, 2011 at 9:33 am
Can you get someone that knows what they are talking about to help you?
You are wrong so often it is nauseating. Your ability to recognize when you are wrong is nonexistent. Your religiosity blinds you to the majority of the world that does not share your crazy beliefs.
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August 6, 2011 at 9:50 am
Really? Name ONE time with documentation to back it up for proof. You keep saying that over and over and I keep asking for proof over and over and your response is to say the same thing over and over and over and over.
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August 6, 2011 at 9:44 am
i am not a choicer, but if i may, i would like to chime in.
deanna portrays herself as being intelligent, but she isn’t smart enough to see that on this site she has been nothing more than dunkle’s goon.
she refuses to acknowledge any valid point made by the other camp but just repeats herself over and over.
she has blatantly refused to address points made to her when specific posts have been made asking her to do so.
we are given a load of BS about her adopting minority children and what an upstanding, wonderful human being she is for doing so, when she has more free time to sit on her caboose online in one day than any woman with real children in the real world would have in a week.
she constantly plays the victim card and pisses and whines about people being mean to her, when she lashes out at others with her hissy fits, even though when the same people have tried to engage her in civil dialogue, she arbitrarily dismisses them.
her diatribes have indeed become longer and more boring.
and now to top it off, she has proven to be stalking kate and posts personal information about the lady online.
i have to wonder if she doesn’t have something for kate. but i can say with a degree of certainty that as far as kate is concerned, she can keep it.
i know that the site losing appeal because of her is problematic, but that was obvious, wasn’t it?
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August 6, 2011 at 9:54 am
Bahhahahahhahhahah! That is great, absolutely great! Not only am I a liar, an imposter and all the other things you call me but now I “have something for Kate”. That is too funny! I ask you the same thing that I ask the rest of the accusers. If I have said anything untrue then provide documentation to prove it!
Kate….bahaahahhahahahahah:)
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August 6, 2011 at 10:18 am
DeAnna,
Please,
You misrepresent mainstream pro life views, and you hurt people like myself that work very hard for a pro life agenda.
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August 6, 2011 at 10:23 am
Sure thing Wallace. Another fake pro-lifer………..whahahahhahahhaha!
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August 6, 2011 at 1:05 pm
And Rog! Love it. You’ve been able to do something I couldn’t, d. You’ve pulled him out of the woodwork.
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August 8, 2011 at 10:15 am
Lorraine I enjoy your comments. I wish the people of my country understand the rights women deserve.
It makes me sad that even in your country you have people that think like fanatics = not wanting women to have choices in their lives.
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August 6, 2011 at 5:28 pm
“Blah, blah, blah [Jesus], blah, blah [christian] blah, blah, blah [God, blah, blah, blah
Is this the best you can do? Do you have nothing better than a bunch of nonsense promulgated by bible-thumping, anti-Catholic idiots?
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August 8, 2011 at 10:17 am
The Catholics for centuries invaded my country and killed many innocent people for no reason.
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August 10, 2011 at 5:04 am
People! They were not people, Seaweed, they were adolescents — 90% t of them were in that age group. We would never kill people, but adolescents are not people! What can you be thinking?
Look at this way, Sea, You don’t help kill people either, do you? Just fetuses, right?
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August 7, 2011 at 10:59 am
DeAnna,
Why do you use The Bible as a resource?
1) Your Bible promotes extensive genocide and infanticide.
2) Most people on Earth do not acknowledge your Bible as anything more than an arbitrary collection of fantasy writings.
Please reply to both 1 and 2
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August 8, 2011 at 10:18 am
No Reply DeAnna?
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August 10, 2011 at 4:22 am
Give her time folks….she is just having trouble “cutting & pasting” …
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August 5, 2011 at 8:18 pm
BTW, Deanna, this is a FB joke….too bad you got your undies in a wad over this….
be careful, you might stroke out pretty soon, especially with all your hot headedness and your high-meat consumption—dixie chick
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August 5, 2011 at 8:45 pm
My undies are just fine than you. I’m not hot headed, not even annoyed, simply stating the truth when the opportunity presents itself. If you don’t want to hear the response then stop presenting the opportunities.
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August 6, 2011 at 3:55 am
It’s hard for me to understand why Kate would endure this.
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August 6, 2011 at 8:59 am
Endure?
Hammering the stupidity out of every ProLife statement is fun!
It also reveals the weakness of the Pro Life position, and how harmful Christianity has been to civilization, and Catholic Crimes against humanity.
Dunkle, Hammered Powerfully Again!!
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August 6, 2011 at 9:18 am
HT, change your name to Feather Time.
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August 6, 2011 at 9:34 am
Did you know that when you are saying that you are being mean to Kate since she is a Christian Reverend? At least that is what she calls herself.
Once again, if my statements are “stupid” prove it with non-biased documentation. I have given this challenge over and over and for some reason no one has taken me up on it. Perhaps it is because it can’t be done.
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August 6, 2011 at 9:54 am
You self proclaimed Catholics are a disgrace to our Lord.
http://rcrc.org/perspectives/catholic.cfm
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August 6, 2011 at 10:11 am
Father,
I am so glad that you showed up because I need to talk to you. You self proclaimed “fathers” who believe that killing babies is ok with God and convince people that it is acceptable are living lies that will catch up to you someday. The scriptures simply DO NOT support your rhetoric. On the contrary the Bible says that God hates those that shed innocent blood and “What sorrow for those who say that evil is good and good is evil, that dark is light and light is dark, that bitter is sweet and sweet is bitter.” Isaiah 5;20. and “Woe to the world because of its stumbling blocks! For it is inevitable that stumbling blocks come; but woe to that man through whom the stumbling block comes! Matthew 18;7.
When the Bible says “woe” it is the most dire of warnings. Shame on you for causing people to sin. Shame on you for shedding innocent blood and shame on you for coming on here reprimanding those who are trying to stop it. You are a wolf in sheeps clothing. You should reconsider your stand. You are no more a “father” than any other baby killer out there. True fathers look out for their children, not lead them to destruction. I call the darkness in you into the light ! Come into the light and be a true Father to the fatherless and take up the plight of the orphans as we are commanded to do in the book of James. Taking up their plight is not killing them!
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August 6, 2011 at 10:23 am
DeAnna,
I see only Satan in you.
Please save your soul and visit your nearest Catholic Church.
You may be possessed, and you don’t know it. You need help my child.
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August 6, 2011 at 10:32 am
I seriously laughed out loud when I read that. Oh my goodness! You must be a comedian AND a fake priest. How does one get into those professions exactly?
No Mr. Reynolds. I am not the problem. You are a wolf in sheeps clothing leading the flocks astray and you know it. I am sorry for you that you are in the place you are in. The scripture is clear as to what happens to those who lead the flocks astray. Another “woe” perhaps? You provide scriptural PROOF to back up your position or else it is clear what you are. My bible says in Psalms 139 that God forms those babies in their mothers wombs and that His thoughts about them are precious and that he has ALL of their days planned out. He says that it is an ABOMINATION to shed innocent blood. He says to be a voice for the voiceless and to take a stand for those who are being drawn away to death. You know the Bible says these things.You know He says not to take innocent lives yet you come on here and on your own website to pretend as if the Bible does not say those things. Where is your Biblical proof??????
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August 7, 2011 at 11:03 am
I do see the Dark Lord Satan in DeAnna and Dunkle.
Seek help, I beg you for your eternal souls as the rapture approaches!
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August 8, 2011 at 10:32 am
I am Pro Life.
This DeAnna and Dunkle do not represent my views or any one else’s that is Pro Life in our large congregation.
DeAnna makes us look like foolish people and we are not.
Real Pro Lifers do not want to limit birth control as that helps stop unwanted pregnancies.
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August 8, 2011 at 10:21 am
I agree with this Hammer person. It is entertaining reading the comment exchange of Pro Lifers getting their intellect slammed by the much more intelligent Pro Choicers.
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August 6, 2011 at 5:29 am
‘simply stating the truth’ is laughable because, once again, you are unable to distinguish between opinion and truth….
‘If you don’t want to hear the response then stop presenting the opportunities’ because Deanna is not responsible—“Kate started it”
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August 6, 2011 at 9:02 am
DeAnna does not state the truth, she evades it with Standard Pro Life Dribble.
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August 6, 2011 at 9:20 am
Carrie does not state the truth, she evades it with Standard Pro Death Dribble.
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August 6, 2011 at 9:37 am
Once again Carrie, provide details of what you are accusing with documented proof to back it up. What “standard Pro-life dribble” do you mean exactly. If it is “dribble” then documented proof to counter it should be easy for you to come up with.
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August 6, 2011 at 9:39 am
Dunkle responses are like a third grader.
Just like his Pro Life positions. The best example of a lack of original thought.
And again, helping Pro Choice advocacy with every word he and DeAnna write.
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August 6, 2011 at 9:42 am
DeAnna,
your writing is the documentation.
You have been told over and over again the problems with your beliefs.
You are a self admitted fringe freak. There it is right there. You are so far out on the fringe you are not even in the real Pro Life movement, your movement should be called something else.
Like the Anti Abortion, Anti Birth Control, Anti Infertility Treatment, Anti Women’s Rights Movement. That fits your position better.
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August 6, 2011 at 9:57 am
You can’t get out of it that easy Carrie. Provide documentation or stop accusing.
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August 6, 2011 at 1:10 pm
“Dunkle responses are like a third grader.” You’re right, though illiterate, here, C. Notice that I’ve been copying what you write, almost word for word.
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August 7, 2011 at 11:06 am
Please everyone, DeAnna and Dunkle are not the voices of ProLife.
Do not mistake them for that, as God has told me of their misunderstandings of his word.
Our entire Church group denounces D & D.
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August 7, 2011 at 1:55 pm
Actually, Mary, D&D are voices from the pro-life movement…
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August 8, 2011 at 10:34 am
Don’t most Pro Choice people disagree with Abortion at 37 weeks?
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August 6, 2011 at 9:46 am
>>>too bad you got your undies in a wad<<<
BAD IMAGE!
DELETE!
DELETE!
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August 6, 2011 at 10:20 am
🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂
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August 7, 2011 at 1:54 pm
That’s pretty funny, Rogie…
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August 5, 2011 at 11:59 am
“We don’t see things as they are, we see things as we are.”
–Anais Nin
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August 6, 2011 at 3:56 am
And end up talking to herself.
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August 8, 2011 at 10:41 am
John,
The things you write are horrible – You would be kicked out of our Pro Life congregation.
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August 7, 2011 at 11:11 am
Kate’s position is undeniably better stated than the uneducated ProLifers that really don’t say anything worth reading.
The pro lifers like DeAnna, remind me of hippocrates like Baker & Swaggert.
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August 6, 2011 at 9:43 am
Seriously,
does anyone really know why Pro Lifers just tend to not be as smart as people that want equal rights for women?
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August 6, 2011 at 1:16 pm
Seriously, does anyone really know why Pro Deathers just tend to not be as smart as people that want equal rights for women?
(I usually enjoy doing these, Harold, but you mangle the language so badly that even imitation is painful.)
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August 6, 2011 at 1:58 pm
i really dont think anyone will ever know, but i dont see as a woman Deanna doesnt support this.
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August 6, 2011 at 2:11 pm
Because as I woman who carried babies in my womb I know full well that they are alive and human and a person and they shouldn’t be killed. It is simply wrong. There is no justification for it. As a woman and a mother I know this to be true.
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August 6, 2011 at 3:02 pm
Personal Incredulity is not a place to support your point DeAnna
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August 6, 2011 at 5:32 pm
“Jimmy”? Are you the real Jimmy? Anyway, huh?
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August 7, 2011 at 11:14 am
Harold,
It is well established that pro lifers of IQs much lower than people who are pro choice.
The trend seems to not only correlate and associate, but also be causal to their depth of religiosity.
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August 7, 2011 at 1:58 pm
But, Deanna, dont you think that EVERY woman knows that it is “alive” and “human”? I would not say they all believe it is a “person” at that point. How can all of those women who have had abortions be so wrong and you so right?
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August 8, 2011 at 10:46 am
Pat, DeAnna is not the voice of Pro Life. She is a radical. Mainstream Pro Life supporters are not in the lower 1% of beliefs. The majority of us do not think the ridiculous things that DeAnna says.
Most Pro Lifers are not against Birth Control for example.
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August 6, 2011 at 9:51 am
http://rcrc.org/perspectives/catholic.cfm
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August 6, 2011 at 1:13 pm
As I told Chuckles, Mother, don’t send me places. Talk to me man to woman.
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August 6, 2011 at 1:26 pm
So “Father” Reynolds is a woman? Really? Life is strange when fathers are really mother’s and death by murder is called good and being a voice for the voiceless is called bad. It’s a confusing place in this age of no moral absolutes.
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August 6, 2011 at 2:15 pm
see, by sending this site, yeah good idea, but to send this to people that are worse than the so called ” adolescent” angst i tend to expell when i comment, does nothing but thankyou “Fader REynolds”
you guys ” Deanna & Dunkle” just need to stop with the ” old way” as you can see from this website there are just as many people with the same beliefs that dont care about what others do such as have abortions or receive free Birth Contraceptives for men, and in the future there will be this change for men!
so just as you guys know there are only so many of you, even Catholics dont care at this point so please id love to here a rebuttle Dunkle, talk it out “man to woman”
“We believe in a world where every woman and man has access to quality and choice in contraception. Wherever possible, we believe in working to reduce the incidence of unplanned and unwanted pregnancy and that society and individuals should strive to give women and men real choices.”
this should be every religions ideal, theres no point to cause problem for others.
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August 6, 2011 at 2:30 pm
There is a point. The point is that babies are dying everyday in clinics. You say that trying to stop this is the “old way”. What about the dead babies? Why don’t they matter? Why don’t they come into the equation for you? It’s not really even a totally religious issue. A person can be pro-life without religion at all. It is a moral issue. One human should not kill another in order to make their lives better. It is immoral to do so and it is immoral to say so.
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August 6, 2011 at 9:28 pm
Fetuses are not babies.
Abortion is not murder.
Women are not incubators.
Abortion is a good thing.
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August 6, 2011 at 2:42 pm
I believe in a world where “whatever the name,” above, would learn to keep the fingers still. Many of you are like me, 76 and ugly, walking on the beach in a thong. If you can’t do it, don’t.
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August 6, 2011 at 6:43 pm
Prolifers say NO Choice, We say Prochoice!
Prolife, the name’s a lie, they prefer that women die!
Not the state, not the church, women should decide their fate.
Trust Women.
Respect Women.
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August 6, 2011 at 4:12 pm
POST SCRIPT TO THE DEANNA DIATRIBE: I was curious when Deanna began rambling ad nauseum about a title ascribed to my name. If I am correct, she’s referencing a HIGHLY SUSPECT site called ministers-best-friend.com. On that site is the fanatical rants of some religious right wingers claiming the The Religious Institute on Sexual Morality, Justice and Healing is problematic. I’m sure the homosexuality and abortion bothers them. Anyway, I signed my name to endorse their work but did not use the Rev title since I am not (nor will I ever be) a religious person. Further, I’ve endorsed other groups for their work supporting abortion (and other reproductive rights), racial equality and the LGBT equality ffolks in in our communities, government, families and in our schools and churches. If Deanna supports the aforementioned web site, you can review for yourself and see where the basis for her remarks. It’s really pathetic.
DEANNA’S DIATRIBE FROM ABOVE:
So tell me Kate, if you are so against the Bible, Jesus, God and Christianity as you have made clear on this blog then why do you call yourself Reverend? I was looking at the Religious Institute website and what do you know? There was an endorsement there by the Reverend Kathryn L. Ranieri, Muhlenberg College, Allentown, Pa. where she had signed the Religious Declaration on Sexual Morality, Justice and Healing.
So, I’m wondering, are you a Christian Reverend that calls other Christians derogatory names or were you posing as a reverend on that website for some reason? If you were posing as one isn’t that deceptive? I mean the topic of this article is about deception, is it not? By the way, where did your “Reverend” credentials come from? Did you go to seminary? It just seems strange to me that you lash out at Christians so when you are one yourself.
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August 6, 2011 at 5:46 pm
OK, so I’ve had a martini. But I’ve read “DEANNA’S DIATRIBE” and Kate’s “POST SCRIPT.”
Now, common, Pat! Chuck! Rog! maybe even Skul! (shut up AIs). Do any of you also see the intelligence in deanna’s writing and the stupidity in Kate’s?
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August 7, 2011 at 5:05 am
Kate posted these words ^ and I think NO more truthful words have been posted in over “””210″” comments!!! Let’s just wrap-up THANKS, BUT
“””Prolifers say NO Choice, We say Prochoice!
Prolife, the name’s a lie, they prefer that women die!
Not the state, not the church, women should decide their fate.”””
“Trust Women.”
“Respect Women.”
I would like to add something that I don’t always add….AMEN!!!
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August 7, 2011 at 1:51 pm
A martini man, huh? Those things taste terrible and knock me on my ass…As for Kate’s and Deanna’s writing…I think they both write rather well, they both are intelligent, I just happen to disagree with Deanna’s bottom line.
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August 8, 2011 at 10:51 am
John, why do you work so hard to hurt the Pro Life movement? The Devil has you in his grips, I can think of no other explanation.
Don’t risk your eternal soul by what you are doing!
Jesus would never approve of you.
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August 6, 2011 at 6:11 pm
dear readers,
please note that among deanna’s problematic behavior is completely out of control.
when others have tried to offer valid points to her, she ignores them, and lashes out at people. when people return her behavior to her in kind, she plays the victim card.
she adheres to dunkle’s belief that the ends justifies the means and when asked outright if she denounces his promotion of “justifiable homicide” in the murders of doctors and clinic staffers, she brazenly refuses to denounce such acts.
she states that she is pro-life, but displays no compassion for the women facing unplanned pregnancies or for their children, and instead creates a story about adopting 4 minority children as an excuse for choosing to sit on her loose caboose online when the enormous amounts of time that she does so would be properly suited to actually caring for those children if they actually existed.
in dialogue, when questions are posed to her, she will deflect and when specific posts are posed to her with a request that she address them rather than deflecting, she brazenly refuses to do so.
she claims to have been invited to post here, and in her defense, i am sure when she first appeared, pat welcomed her as pat welcomes all newcomers. yet nobody admits to having invited her,muchless to inviting her to spew vitriol and hijacking each and every thread.
she shows blatant disrespect for catholic priests.
and to top it off,she has now shown that she is stalking a well-respected poster on this board and posts personal information about her.
i recently stopped responding directly to her, just as i stopped responding directly to dunkle some time back, even though in his ignorance and arrogance he has yet to realize it.
i suggest that her behavior has crossed the line from problematic and become dangerous.
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August 6, 2011 at 6:53 pm
Rogelio,
Fabulous summary. Bless you.
However, I seriously doubt that Deanna or Dunkle are dangerous because they fear loss of their own bloated life, their bloated words (I’m referencing both Dunkle and Deanna). It remind me of the saying:
The price of our vitality is the sum of all our fears.
And Dunkle and Deanna, on their own self-absorbed blogs, are reduced to slogging along here. The rest of us are doing something magnificent and not bragging.
Deanna is afraid of sharing her particulars. Dunkle is fearful that his wife will lose the house that he put in her name to save his sorry ass. Bottom line:
What you risk reveals what you value—-
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August 6, 2011 at 8:05 pm
“And Dunkle and Deanna, on their own self-absorbed blogs, are reduced to slogging along here. The rest of us are doing something magnificent and not bragging.”
The first sentence has no meaning. The second contradicts itself.
The woman has no shame.
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August 7, 2011 at 4:34 am
“is dangerous”
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August 7, 2011 at 11:18 am
You are right Kate, good analysis.
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August 10, 2011 at 5:11 am
The queen of platitudes strikes again: “The price of our vitality is the sum of all our fears..”
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August 6, 2011 at 6:54 pm
For those prolifers who fail to even want to understand women, here’s one of may favorites, especially shared for the benefit of Deanna:
Those of us who attempt to act and do things for others or for the world without deepening our own self-understanding, freedom, integrity and capacity to love, will not have anything to give others. We will communicate to them nothing but the contagion of our own obsessions, our aggressivity, our ego-centered ambitions, our delusions and ends and means. Thomas Merton, philosopher.
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August 6, 2011 at 8:16 pm
“For those prolifers who fail even to want to understand women, here’s one of my favorite passages, especially shared for the benefit of Deanna”
And leave it to you, Kate, to give us a Merton quote after he’d gone off the deep end. The young Merton was an artist, but, like Hemingway, he ended up copying himself. As payback for the magnificence of his early writings, God zapped him in the orient before he did even more damage.
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August 6, 2011 at 6:21 pm
Hey, dr’s, I didn’t get past this: “dear readers, please note that among deanna’s problematic behavior is completely out of control.”
Translate it, and then tell me what else he says.
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August 6, 2011 at 9:49 pm
The bottom line is that babies shouldn’t be dying to make another’s life better.You can write page after page about how arrogant I am, how I am a liar, a fraud, stupid, ignorant, etc. Go ahead. Make your list, shout it from your rooftops, do what you can to try and shut me up. But none of this will change the fact that babies die brutally at your hands and with your support. You can make it about the woman, about pro-lifers, about Christians, about fifty year old men, about control issues, about bodily autonomy, about Republicans, anything you can thing of but none of that will ever erase the fact that there are babies dying daily. You want to hide behind your euphemisms, rhetoric and propaganda but NOTHING will make those dead babies disappear. You can make it about John Dunkle or the other protesters. You can call them demented animals if you want BUT it does not take away what is happening and what happens in abortion clinics. You can call Bernard Nathenson and Abby Johnson liars and attention whores if you want but the dead babies will remain! They will still be dismembered and decapitated and placed with the common trash so that you can have things your way. You can pretend as if they aren’t human, say there are clumps of tissue or products of conception. You can say they are non-persons but saying it does not make it true. It is what it is! The scripture says in Deuteronomy “”I call heaven and earth to witness against you today, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and curse. Therefore choose life, that you and your offspring may live.” Deuteronomy 30:19. You can make fun of this scripture even but that does not make it untrue or make it go away.
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August 7, 2011 at 7:58 am
Yes, to you it’s about babies dying. That’s your reality. But for women who do not want to be pregnant, their life is more valuable than some 12 week fetus. A fetus is not a baby.
Regardless, women have a right and moral obligation to abort their pregnancy if it makes sense to them. It’s their lives. You live the life you want. It’s your right. Have the decency to respect other women who choose to live differently than you.
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August 7, 2011 at 8:39 am
Are the statements in #11 accurate?
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August 8, 2011 at 9:35 pm
>>>The bottom line is that babies shouldn’t be dying to make another’s life better.<<<
i agree completely! but i also believe that doctors and clinic staff and women seeking abortions should not be killed, stalked, terrorized and shamed for people in the PL movement to support our stance.
the ends doesn't justify the means. that's not how to effectively stop abortions, and your support of such things indicates that you are FOS.
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August 10, 2011 at 5:28 am
Here’s what I have against you, Rog. You, a prolifer, came to this blog to jump in with the prodeathers. You swallowed their lies and regurgitated them.
But what really got me angry was your “my way or the highway” attitude. So many of us are just like you.
Now here’s your way: help kill your child, regret it, work to stop others from making the same mistake. So far, great.
But then your “you gotta do it my way” attitude comes in: Stand quietly at a distance from the mill. Hold a discrete prolife sign. Criticize any prolifer not doing that. Make friends with the enemy to tell them how bad your allies are (and love yourself for doing that). And, finally, find someone like Dunkle who believes you may use force to defend yourself against someone who’s approaching to kill you, and go bananas.
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August 7, 2011 at 5:22 am
“Prolifers say NO Choice, We say Prochoice!
Prolife, the name’s a lie, they prefer that women die!
Not the state, not the church, women should decide their fate.”
“Trust Women.”
“Respect Women.”
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August 7, 2011 at 7:18 am
After the magnificence of #9, I hadn’t dared even to comment; but that didn’t stop you from spouting your cliches, did it, LDM. And you spent thirty years running a murder mill? Figures.
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August 7, 2011 at 7:24 am
But keep talking. All you killers’ helpers,keep talking. I’ll be away a while again, and I don’t want to be bored to death when I return.
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August 9, 2011 at 8:24 pm
I’m back again. You did keep talking but I’m still bored. Get Chuck back here. He says stupid stuff too, of course, as does anybody who argues that we should continue to kill others legally, but he’s literate, and relatively kind, and he doesn’t curse. Get back here, Chuckles!
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August 7, 2011 at 8:08 am
Nice pictures, Nonna Deanna, on the pinkadotsgirl blogspot + 2011/07/shower
How’s life in Calhoun?
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August 7, 2011 at 8:20 am
The Georgia Right to Life holds many beliefs about women, abortion and life. Several in particular speak volumes about misogyny and patriarchy including approval of spousal notification, opposition abortion in cases of incest and rape, and parental notification.
And guess who supports GRTL? Our little Georgia Peach, Deanna.
Get the picture?
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August 7, 2011 at 5:24 pm
Actually I am considering opening a Georgia Right to life chapter in my town…..what is your point?
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August 8, 2011 at 10:59 am
Why not place your funds and energy into helping the millions of dying and impoverished children? Some living in your own area?
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August 9, 2011 at 8:32 pm
Because then, Todd, her efforts to help the ones who are far more worse off, the ones being pulled apart, would be weakened. Someone can do only so much.
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August 7, 2011 at 8:25 am
Sunsara Taylor, The World Can’t Wait, wrote about the prolifers and why they rail on against women and abortion providers:
“Why do they do all this? Not because they give a rat’s ass about the so-called “life of the fetus.” They do this because they are driven by the biblical mandate that women have babies—lots and lots of babies—and obediently submit to men.
According to the Bible, everything evil that has ever happened is because Eve tempted Adam into eating the “forbidden fruit.” Not only that, there was a “special curse” brought down on women. Here it is in 1 Timothy 2:11-15: “Let a woman learn in silence with full submission. I permit no woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she is to keep silent. For Adam was formed first, then Eve; and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor. Yet she will be saved through childbearing, provided they continue in faith and love and holiness, with modesty.”
There you have it… thanks to Sunsara.
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August 9, 2011 at 8:50 pm
OK Kate, enough of this Bible stuff! Here’s your counterpart: “He was, and is yet most likely, the wearisomest self-righteous Pharisee that ever ransacked a Bible to rake the promises to himself and fling the curses to his neighbors.”
Guys — who said that and where. Hint, my favorite novel.
Now I know you God-damners have not other authority, so you have to use it, Better just to skirt the Bible altogether.
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August 7, 2011 at 8:38 am
DeAnna,
Are these statements accurate?
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August 7, 2011 at 5:23 pm
Some is accurate, some is not. What does it matter? I am who I am and I make no apologies for it. I am pro-life….period……I believe in prayer…..I love my husband who I have been married to for 31 years and I am a new “Nonna”….and I love every bit of it…….so what??? I don’t get the relevance. Really I don’t!
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August 8, 2011 at 10:55 am
What is the International House of Prayer?
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August 26, 2011 at 7:33 am
I-hop for the religious
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August 7, 2011 at 8:53 am
Well, well, well. Are we kids having fun yet?
This past weekend, a very close friend of mine was killed in a car accident. He was only 49. So, I’ve been out of the loop and just came back to see all of this.
Not sure what to say except that this blog is meant to have substantive, civil conversations with people on both sides. I grow weary of the name calling, that’s no way to make an argument. I have actually appreciated Deanna’s contributions (and of course the others’) although I do think that some of the posts go on too long. Indeed, I wish we had even more people commenting (although I know a lot of folks read it).
I’ll just keep posting my thoughts in the hopes of getting a substantive reaction from both sides. If the name calling gets to be too much, I do have the power to delete comments but I dont think I have ever done something like that. That would be pretty extreme.
So, not sure where that leaves the “talkers”. Just hope you’ll sit back, enjoy your Sunday and the 100 degree weather and I’ll be writing another Pulitzer Prize winning column probably later today. Maybe I’ll just write about the pros and cons of “Glee”!!!
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August 7, 2011 at 5:35 pm
Pat, I am sorry about your friend. I know that must be hard for you.
I am also sorry about the digression of the comments on this blog as well. I would love nothing better than to have substantive, civil conversations. Hopefully your comments will lead to that end. I told you from the beginning that I appreciate your willingness to hear both sides and I mean that. I apologize for any part I played in adding to the digression. My intent all along has been to show the pro-life perspective on things. But, as you know people on both sides are passionate about their beliefs so I guess it is normal for sparks to fly on occasion. Hopefully we can get back to and stay with rationale conversation about the topic at hand.
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August 7, 2011 at 2:07 pm
You know, I dont give a rat’s ass who Deanna is married to and how old she is. Let’s cool it with the personal crap, folks or else I will delete those comments. Who someone is married to does not mean anything…
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August 7, 2011 at 4:25 pm
I second that!!
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August 9, 2011 at 8:28 pm
Thank God for you Pat, and LDM, sometimes you’re on the money. And Rog, I know you’re angry, and I know why, but, time for you to disappear.
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August 7, 2011 at 11:29 pm
I have been lurking on this site today, and in comment to the original article, I am glad the author of this blog recognizes that CPC’s don’t claim to “provide abortion services”. Of course they don’t, they provide the same thing that Planned Parenthood claims to provide: information. You all wave the banner of a womans rights being supreme, yet you clearly are only about your own agenda. “Woman’s Rights” only matter to you as long as the woman’s choice is YOUR platform of abortion. If a woman (or man) CHOOSES life, she is an idiot. If a woman (or man) CHOOSES to believe in a higher power, she is a backwoods radical, if a woman (or man) CHOOSES to believe scientific fact that a life has started and will be stopped with abortion, regardless of whether it’s a “person” yet or not, she by default doesn’t care if women die. “Trust Women”, “Respect Women”. Seriously? That’s your slogan? And you say that with a straight face? Wow, and you people are college graduates? I submit that you are not pro-choice at all, but rather pro-abortion. I submit that you are not for a woman’s right to choose, but rather are for abortion. Period, It’s not surprising, since this blog seems to be made up of present and former abortion providers. It’s a lucrative business isn’t it, all you valiant defenders of FREEDOM OF CHOICE.
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August 8, 2011 at 11:00 am
Welcome Nun Ya! You put a lot out there! I worked for an abortion rights organization for many years and I can tell you that I could care less if anyone got an abortion. That was up to them. I cared that, if she wanted one, she would have access to one. If she chose to have a baby or put it up for adoption, good for her! As for the abortion providers themselves, like many pro-lifers there are all kinds and shapes. Pro-lifers have their terrorists to contend with while pro-choicers have the sleazy bad clinics to deal with. Somewhere in the middle are people on both sides who care, who are passionate and who mean well.
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August 8, 2011 at 11:12 am
Wow, Nunya, you are clueless.
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August 8, 2011 at 3:57 pm
Thank you for the welcome Richard. I normally don’t do that, but this thread of comments was very eye opening as to the level pro choice advocates will sink too, with name calling, viciousness, and a double standard large enough to drive a dump truck through. If you believe what you say here, you are in the minority on your own site. I’m not talking about this issue of choice/life either, but the blatant ignoring of and stomping underfoot every point not their own. It could be any issue in which opposing parties square off. I guess I’m saying they fight with mudslinging, not their intellects. I hate it when politicians do it, I hate it when neighbors do it, and I hate it here.
Thanks Total Stranger Todd, for proving my point.
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August 9, 2011 at 8:57 pm
Welcome NY, you’re in for some fun.
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August 8, 2011 at 2:18 pm
Getting back to the original thread –
It is likely some abortion clinics have given out incorrect pill dosages (although reducing the dosage has been considered a good thing for woman’s long term health) and low quality (low cost) condoms, maybe intentionally, maybe not.
It is likely that some CPCs suggest they perform abortions but not in writing. It is likely some of them suggest the woman is far short of the legal limit when she is actually close so she will to slip her past the legal limit.
It is likely some terrorists are Muslims.
I could go on. There are bad apples everywhere.
In #7 Kate doubts Deanna and Dunkle are dangerous. Be careful, Kate. Dunkle is like the Imam who talks others into suicide bombings. Keep in mind he has been convicted in Federal Court (during the anti-choice Bush administration) of acts that are very close to terrorism. If he (or maybe Deanna) were to discover tomorrow that they have only a few months to live, who knows what they might do. If either one lost a spouse or child to some horrific death, who knows what they might do.
In #2, Deanna claimed the overpopulated world was the result of mankind not carrying out God’s principles. Would those be the go forth and multiply (i.e., don’t use birth control) principles that simply could not possibly lead to overpopulation?
Later someone (Deanna, I think, but I can’t find it to verify) reprimanded Father Reynolds that the scriptures don’t support him. Are those the scriptures where God is loving and forgiving or the one that declares eternal damnation to anyone who does not believe in him, no matter what else that person does (In Sunday school, when I was 14, they tried to ram that down my throat, which is when I realized that was not for me). Or the part that refer to God as Him and that man is made in his image? God has DNA, testicles, a penis?
The scriptures have lots of good advice and lots of BS. They were written by men long after the source was dead (at least the Koran was written during Muhammad’s life. Muslims have told me that Muhammad claimed Jesus was the greatest profit, but men has screwed up his message, so God told Muhammad to redo the real words of Jesus.). Why would anyone believe the Bible is without error?
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August 8, 2011 at 2:52 pm
Great Point!
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August 8, 2011 at 4:37 pm
It is clear to me that this pro- (cough cough) ….choice…..site has become the anti-prolifer, anti-crisis pregnancy center, anti-Christian, anti-religion, anti -bible, anti-Deanna site rather than a place for intelligent adults to come and have conversations and even friendly debate about a topic. Or maybe it was always that way and I just walked right into the middle of it. At any rate, the stupidity of it all has gotten past a point. It seems that there is much sport in attacking people rather than ideas. It seems to me that folks would get tired of the poo throwing after a while and resort back to true conversation. I dunno! Anyway, Pat has asked that we address the topic at hand rather than slinging poo at one another. So with that in mind I am re-posting below a legitimate question that I asked earlier that never got answered:
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August 8, 2011 at 4:40 pm
The question was, why do you think that these people below say that abortion clinics give out low dose birth control pills intentionally so that women get pregnant and return to the nice people who gave them the free pills for their follow up abortion if it isn’t true?
When you consider the high profile names that have said this you have to look at it with some interest. Several former abortionists have said it. The movie Blood Money goes into detail about it. Carol Everett, an owner of two abortion clinics in the Dallas-Fort Worth area, wanted to become a millionaire. “And the way for me to be a millionaire was to sell 40,000 abortions a year.” Everett wanted students to “come to us with their sexual questions so we could put them on a low dose birth control pill we knew they’d get pregnant on. Of course we passed out condoms but we never passed out high quality condoms; we always used seconds or defective condoms. Our goal was to get the kids pregnant.”
Abbey Johnson said, ““Planned Parenthood absolutely has quotas that each center has to meet, They have an abortion budget and they have a certain number of patients that you have to perform abortions on every month, and there’s a dollar amount attached to each woman.”
Joan Appleton, former abortion nurse and NOW activist says,” Now the pharmaceutical companies and Planned Parenthood and the abortion industry were not stupid. They knew that the less dose of estrogen in those pills, the more likely it was they were going to fail. But you don’t have to worry. We can bring you right back here for another abortion.They even used percentages, by the way. Thirty percent failure rate, because were going to use the real low estrogen pill. So that means thirty percent will come back. And if we forget to tell you, by the way, that if you get the flu and have to be put on antibiotics, the chemical reaction between the birth control pill and the antibiotic renders the birth control pill worthless, and totally ineffective, so we have another twenty percent. Thank you, come back around.”
As far as the condoms go a January 2005 consumer reports article shows that tow of the three types of condoms that Planned Parenthood distributes ranked the lowest out of the 23 brands that they tested failing air inflation tests. Consumer Reports reprimanded them for it and The Chicago Tribune carried a story about it as did Newsday.
I could go on with more quotes but I think you get the point. You have to ask yourself the question why these people would say these things if there weren’t some truth to it. Some pro-choicers say that they do it for attention or their 15 minutes of fame or money but that makes no sense especially for Carol Everett who made millions off abortion. As did Bernard Nathenson. It was their conscious that got the best of them. You have to investigate the motive. They were pro-choice, in the industry and came out, some of them with very tough after effects. Why would they go through all of that unless there was some truth to their stories? It makes no sense.
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August 8, 2011 at 5:17 pm
needing to educate Kate Ranieri…I know she is an assistant professor at Muhlenberg College and a “Reverend” (I doubt it!) but she needs some schooling of her own! so here’s to you Kate.
1. a) A parasite is defined as an organism of one species living in or on an organism of another species (a heterospecific relationship) and deriving its nourishment from the host (is metabolically dependent on the host). (See Cheng, T.C., General Parasitology, p. 7, 1973.)
b) A human embryo or fetus is an organism of one species (Homo sapiens) living in the uterine cavity of an organism of the same species (Homo sapiens) and deriving its nourishment from the mother (is metabolically dependent on the mother). This homospecific relationship is an obligatory dependent relationship, but not a parasitic relationship.
2. a) A parasite is an invading organism — coming to parasitize the host from an outside source.
b) A human embryo or fetus is formed from a fertilized egg — the egg coming from an inside source, being formed in the ovary of the mother from where it moves into the oviduct where it may be fertilized to form the zygote — the first cell of the new human being.
3. a) A parasite is generally harmful to some degree to the host that is harboring the parasite.
b) A human embryo or fetus developing in the uterine cavity does not usually cause harm to the mother, although it may if proper nutrition and care is not maintained by the mother.
4. a) A parasite makes direct contact with the host’s tissues, often holding on by either mouth parts, hooks or suckers to the tissues involved (intestinal lining, lungs, connective tissue, etc.).
b) A human embryo or fetus makes direct contact with the uterine lining of the mother for only a short period of time. It soon becomes isolated inside its own amniotic sac, and from that point on makes indirect contact with the mother only by way of the umbilical cord and placenta.
5. a) When a parasite invades host tissue, the host tissue will sometimes respond by forming a capsule (of connective tissue) to surround the parasite and cut it off from other surrounding tissue (examples would be Paragonimus westermani, lung fluke, or Oncocerca volvulus, a nematode worm causing cutaneous filariasis in the human).
b) When the human embryo or fetus attaches to and invades the lining tissue of the mother’s uterus, the lining tissue responds by surrounding the human embryo and does not cut it off from the mother, but rather establishes a means of close contact (the placenta) between the mother and the new human being.
6. a) When a parasite invades a host, the host will usually respond by forming antibodies in response to the somatic antigens (molecules comprising the body of the parasite) or metabolic antigens (molecules secreted or excreted by the parasite) of the parasite. Parasitism usually involves an immunological response on the part of the host. (See Cheng, T.C., General Parasitology, p. 8.)
b) New evidence, presented by Beer and Billingham in their article, “The Embryo as a Transplant” (Scientific American, April, 1974), indicates that the mother does react to the presence of the embryo by producing humoral antibodies, but they suggest that the trophoblast — the jacket of cells surrounding the embryo — blocks the action of these antibodies and therefore the embryo or fetus is not rejected. This reaction is unique to the embryo-mother relationship.
7. a) A parasite is generally detrimental to the reproductive capacity of the invaded host. The host may be weakened, diseased or killed by the parasite, thus reducing or eliminating the host’s capacity to reproduce.
b) A human embryo or fetus is absolutely essential to the reproductive capacity of the involved mother (and species). The mother is usually not weakened, diseased or killed by the presence of the embryo or fetus, but rather is fully tolerant of this offspring which must begin his or her life in this intimate and highly specialized relationship with the mother.
8. a) A parasite is an organism that, once it invades the definitive host, will usually remain with host for life (as long as it or the host survives).
b) A human embryo or fetus has a temporary association with the mother, remaining only a number of months in the uterus.
A parasite is an organism that associates with the host in a negative, unhealthy and nonessential (nonessential to the host) manner which will often damage the host and detrimentally affect the procreative capacity of the host (and species).
A human embryo or fetus is a human being that associates with the mother in a positive, healthful essential manner necessary for the procreation of the species.
[This data was compiled by Thomas L. Johnson, Professor of Biology, Mary Washington College, Fredericksburg, VA. Professor Johnson teaches Chordate Embryology and Parasitology. This is reprinted, with the author’s permission, from the National Right to Life News, April-May, 1974. It also appears in “The Position of Modern Science on the Beginning of Human Life,” by Scientists for Life. $1.75 plus postage for two ounces for each copy to: Sun Life, 2399 Cool Springs Road, Thaxton, VA 24174, 540/586-4898.]
Note: When some people claim preborn children are parasites, they mean “parasite” in its pejorative, that is, in its social-ethical sense. Prof. Johnson’s article addresses only the biological meaning of “parasite.” Libertarians for Life responds to the pejorative sense in other articles. Briefly, as libertarians, we strongly agree that women as well as men have the right to control their own bodies. Nonetheless, we hold that under principles of individual liberty, parents have the obligation to support their dependent children. Our children have a right to our support, whether they are in the crib or in the womb.
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August 8, 2011 at 5:19 pm
some more information for Kate and the rest of you may benefit from this as well.
President Barack Obama’s Pro-Abortion Record: A Pro-Life Compilation
Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) — The following is a compilation of bill signings, speeches, appointments and other actions that President Barack Obama has engaged in that have promoted abortion before and during his presidency. While Obama has promised to reduce abortions and some of his supporters believe that will happen, this long list proves his only agenda is promoting more abortions.
During the presidential election, Obama selected pro-abortion Sen. Joe Biden as his vice-presidential running mate.
Post-Election / Pre-Inauguration
November 5, 2008 – Obama selects pro-abortion Rep. Rahm Emanuel as his White House Chief of Staff. Emanuel has a 0% pro-life voting record according to National Right to Life.
November 19, 2008 – Obama picks pro-abortion former Sen. Tom Daschle as his Health and Human Services Secretary. Daschle has a long pro-abortion voting record according to National Right to Life.
November 20, 2008 – Obama chooses former NARAL legal director Dawn Johnsen to serve as a member of his Department of Justice Review Team. Later, he finalizes her appointment as the Assistant Attorney General for the Office of the Legal Counsel in the Obama administration.
November 24, 2008 – Obama appoints Ellen Moran, the former director of the pro-abortion group Emily’s List as his White House communications director. Emily’s List only supported candidates who favored taxpayer funded abortions and opposed a partial-birth abortion ban.
November 24, 2008 – Obama puts former Emily’s List board member Melody Barnes in place as his director of the Domestic Policy Council.
November 30, 2008 – Obama named pro-abortion Sen. Hillary Clinton as the Secretary of State. Clinton has an unblemished pro-abortion voting record and has supported making unlimited abortions an international right.
December 10, 2008 – Obama selects pro-abortion former Clinton administration official Jeanne Lambrew to become the deputy director of the White House Office of Health Reform. Planned Parenthood is “excited” about the selection.
December 10, 2008 – Obama transition team publishes memo from dozens of pro-abortion groups listing their laundry list of pro-abortions actions they want him to take.
Pro-Abortion Presidential Record – 2009
January 5, 2009 – Obama picks pro-abortion Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine as the chairman of the Democratic Party.
January 6, 2009 – Obama chooses Thomas Perrelli, the lawyer who represented Terri Schiavo’s husband Michael in his efforts to kill his disabled wife, as the third highest attorney in the Justice Department.
January 22, 2009 – Releases statement restating support for Roe v. Wade decision that allowed virtually unlimited abortions and has resulted in at least 50 million abortions since 1973.
January 23, 2009 – Forces taxpayers to fund pro-abortion groups that either promote or perform abortions in other nations. Decison to overturn Mexico City Policy sends part of $457 million to pro-abortion organizations.
January 26, 2009 – Obama nominee for Deputy Secretary of State, James B. Steinberg, tells members of the Senate that taxpayers should be forced to fund abortions. Nominee erroneously says limits on abortion funding are unconstitutional.
January 29, 2009 – President Obama nominates pro-abortion David Ogden as Deputy Attorney General.
February 12, 2009 – Obama nominates pro-abortion Elena Kagan to serve as Solicitor General.
February 27, 2009 – Starts the process of overturning pro-life conscience protections President Bush put in place to make sure medical staff and centers are not forced to do abortions.
February 28, 2009 – Barack Obama nominates pro-abortion Kathleen Sebelius to become Secretary of Health and Human Services.
March 5, 2009 – The Obama administration shut out pro-life groups from attending a White House-sponsored health care summit. Planned Parenthood, the nation’s largest abortion business, made the invitation list as did other pro-abortion groups.
March 9, 2009 – President Barack Obama signed an executive order forcing taxpayer funding of embryonic stem cell research.
March 10, 2009 – Obama announces the creation of a new foreign policy position to focus on women’s issues. He names Melanne Verveer, an abortion advocate, to occupy the post.
March 10, 2009 – Reverses an executive order to press for more research into ways of obtaining embryonic stem cells without harming human life. The order Obama scrapped would have promoted new forms of stem cell research.
March 11, 2009 – Obama signed an executive order establishing a new agency within his administration known as the White House Council on Women and Girls. Obama’s director of public liaison at the White House, Tina Tchen, an abortion advocate, became director of it.
March 11, 2009 – Obama administration promotes an unlimited right to abortion at a United Nations meeting.
March 11, 2009 – Obama administration officials deny negative effects of abortion at United Nation’s meeting.
March 17, 2009 – President Barack Obama makes his first judicial appointment and names pro-abortion federal Judge David Hamilton to serve on the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals.
March 26 – President Obama announced $50 million for the UNFPA, the UN population agency that has been criticized for promoting abortion and working closely with Chinese population control officials who use forced abortions and involuntary sterilizations.
April 7 – The Vatican has rejected three Obama ambassador nominees because of their positions in favor of abortions.
April 7 – Obama has named pro-abortion law professor Harold Hongju Koh as the top lawyer for the State Department.
April 7 – Put more abortion advocates on his White House advisory council for faith-based issues.
April 8 – Obama nominee for assistant attorney general for legislative affairs, Ron Weich, is pro-abortion.
April 14 – Obama administration releases document that claims pro-life people may engage in violence or extremism.
April 17 – Obama administration releases the proposed guidelines that implement his decision to allow taxpayer funding of embryonic stem cell research that involves the destruction of human life.
April 23 – Refused to appeal a ruling requiring the FDA to allow 17-year-old girls to purchase the morning after pill without either a doctor visit or parental involvement beforehand.
April 27 – Obama’s women’s ambassador Melanne Verveer touted Obama’s decision to send $50 million to the United Nation’s Population Fund.
May 5 – Details emerge about a terrorism dictionary the administration of President Barack Obama put together in March. The Domestic Extremism Lexicon calls pro-life advocates violent and claims they employ racist overtones in engaging in criminal actions.
May 8 – President Obama releases a new budget that allows the Legal Services Corporation to use tax dollars to pay for pro-abortion litigation.
May 8 – President Obama’s new budget calls for taxpayer funded abortions in the nation’s capital.
May 8 – President Obama’s budget eliminates all federal funding for abstinence-only education.
May 15 – Appointed pro-abortion New York City health commissioner Thomas Frieden as head of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
May 17 – During his commencement speech at Notre Dame, Obama deceived listeners into thinking he wants a conscience clause, promoted embryonic stem cell research and misstated his pro-abortion record.
May 26 – Appoints appeals court judge Sonia Sonotmayor as a Supreme Court nominee. Sotomayor agrees that the courts should make policy, such as the Roe v. Wade case. Sotomayor is later opposed by pro-life groups and supported by pro-abortion groups and those who know her say she will support abortion on the high court.
July 2- Calls for an unlimited right to abortion at a United Nation’s meeting.
July 7- The Obama administration admits it ignored the majority of Americans who opposed the proposed guidelines that would implement Obama’s decision to force taxpayers to fund embryonic stem cell research.
July 14 – Obama science czar nominee John Holdren is revealed to have written before that he favors forced abortions.
July 30 – Awards several pro-abortion activists with the 2009 Presidential Medal of Freedom.
July 31 – Tells the National Institutes of Health to adopt rules that allow embryonic stem cell research.
August 4 – Information becomes public that Ezekiel Emanuel, an Obama advisor at the Office of Management and Budget and a member of Federal Council on Comparative Effectiveness Research, supports rationing health care for disabled Americans that could lead to euthanasia.
August 6 – Obama criticized for asking for people to “snitch” on groups and people who oppose the pro-abortion health care bills in Congress.
August 13 – Obama wrongly said a senator backed the pro-euthanasia components of the health care bill.
August 23 – Said pro-life advocates were making “phony claims” about the health care bills. Also said the claims were false.
August 24 – Releases veterans guide promoting euthanasia.
September 13 – Misleads on the federal conscience clause in a health care speech and misleads on abortion funding.
September 13 – Obama waits two days to comment on shooting of pro-life advocate whereas he commented immediately on shooting of abortion practitioner.
September 15 – Senate confirms Obama’s new regulatory czar Cass Sunstein, who is pro-abortion.
October 5 – Selected pro-abortion lawyer and Georgetown University law professor Chai Feldblum for the EEOC.
October 5 – Anounces he will give the keynote speech for pro-abortion group Human Rights Campaign.
October 19 – Obama’s serve.gov web site promotes the Planned Parenthood abortion business.
October 21 – Obama administration web site promotes pro-abortion health care bills.
November 6 – Endorsed the House version of the health care bill that, at the time, contained massive abortion funding, rationing and assisted suicide promotion.
NOvember 26 – Copies Thanksgiving proclamation of President Bush but leaves out pro-life message.
December 2 – Authorized taxpayer funding for embryonic stem cell research that kills days-old unborn children.
December 3 – A pro-abortion Obama judicial pick, Louis Butler, is approved by the Senate Judiciary Committee.
December 7 – Announces his endorsement of the pro-abortion Senate health care bill.
December 16 – Obama administration forces Americans a second time to spend millions more on embryonic stem cell research that destroys human life.
December 17 – Signed a bill that overturned the 13-year-long ban on funding abortions with tax dollars in the nation’s capital.
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