Over the past few years, I have collected little gems about abortion from journalists, commenters, patients, bloggers and colleagues. Distilled from their comments are lessons to be learned from women who speak out about abortion and other reproductive health care issues.
Abortion isn’t a Sin
Saying abortion is a “grave sin” translates to your hang-ups and your religious judgment. Abortion is a very complex decision women make for their own moral reasons and sin doesn’t factor into the decision.
Abortion isn’t Wrong
Abortion access is an important issue for Christians concerned with social justice. When 1 in 3 American women will have an abortion, it’s no wonder that religious folks like Rev. Briere, Rev. Rebecca Turner, Catholics for Choice and the Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice, know so many women who have needed this medical service. We should sincerely thank all religious progressives for their humanist perspective on this because too often we hear of the extremist conservative Christians trying to claim moral high ground while shaming and disrespecting women.
The Life of a Woman is Precious
If life is precious, why are you willing to force women to continue a pregnancy that can kill them? Are their lives less important than the potential life of the fetus?
Women and their right to bodily autonomy and self-determination are precious.
There is nothing precious about an unwanted pregnancy.
What part of DOES NOT WANT TO BE PREGNANT is too complicated and confusing for you?
The Fetus is Non Sentient and Inexpressive
Mindless, oblivious, nonviable tissue and cells cannot ‘want’ anything, cannot want to go to the beach, cannot love you.
An embryo isn’t capable of being innocent.
The fetus until late in gestation is mindless, insensate, nonviable, and oblivious. Until there is a functional cerebral cortex there is ‘no one home’.
Abortion is Taking Responsibility
Abortion is taking responsibility. There is nothing responsible about having a child you don’t want and can’t feed, clothe, house and educate.
Women are feeling, reasoning human beings who have the right to decide if and when they want to be pregnant.
Good women make good decisions every day to terminate or continue their pregnancies. Women are perfectly capable of making decisions about their pregnancies. It’s time for the rest of world to respect that capability.
Sex is My Business
Sex isn’t wrong. Sex is natural. Being sexual is God-given just like feet, hands, mouths, and brains.
STFU. My uterus, my business. You can pound sand.
Saying I have to endure nine months of rape just because the way my body was developed means that, in order to show respect, I can’t determine my own bodily autonomy. You are victimizing me because I have a uterus.
Crisis Pregnancy Centers
I find it not just morally wrong for these “clinics” to exist but also personally insulting as it seems that all I would have to have done to be a healthcare professional is love Jesus, and spew propaganda at vulnerable women.
Women Don’t Regret Their Abortions
The most common emotion women feel post abortion is relief. If women feel negative emotions, they are probably a result of the antiabortion movement itself. After all, the picketers who scream “murderer” at women entering clinics are significant stress-inducers.


June 21, 2012 at 4:35 am
After reading the wisdom and insight you distilled from those five groups, Kate, it’s difficult to know why we’re all not killers’ helpers. Expect to find me in a green vest Saturday along with Dougie, FX and Patricia — the Valley of the Ancients.
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June 21, 2012 at 7:30 am
Another powerfully written article leaving the anti abortion bead counters trembling!
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June 21, 2012 at 8:25 am
Sal, like from Salvatore? Another Catholic anti-Catholic?
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June 21, 2012 at 3:42 pm
Trembling, trembling
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June 21, 2012 at 7:35 am
It doesn’t matter what you wear on Saturday or what you say on Saturday. You and your fellow Loser Cruisers will not matter. You boys never have and you never will matter. All you and your fellow Loser Cruisers have accomplished and all you will ever accomplish is to demonstrate your depraved performances of religiosity, banal rituals of fear mongering, stigmatization through grotesque imagery and social repudiation of everyone affiliated with an abortion clinic.
Let’s face the facts. You and your fellow Loser Cruisers are tainted by the monstrous transgressions you decry. Your bullhorns, your dead fetus images, your anxious fascination with women’s bodies and your impotent religious paraphernalia are part of your arsenal of weapons to draw boundaries between good and evil. But by using these tools, you all become the monster you project onto others. Your useless vilification of prochoice people may provide you with a false assurance of your own civility and normality but for the rest of society, it’s evidence of your malignant idiocy that is altogether horrifyingly amusing.
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June 21, 2012 at 8:05 am
Spurious certainties and terror support each other.
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February 9, 2014 at 5:00 am
That’s a shrewd answer to a tricky quostien
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June 21, 2012 at 8:29 am
“You and your fellow Loser Cruisers will not matter.” You’re forgetting one thing here, Kate. We do get your goat. I’m not sure it’s not why we keep showing up.
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June 21, 2012 at 9:48 am
Surely you flatter yourself if you think that you or your fellow terrorists get my goat (whatever that may mean to your muddled mind). I find your type useful fodder for deconstructing your performances, acts done in the name of religion and prolife, as unhealthy attempts to exorcise your own demons. But more important, it is critical that a light continues to shine on the perennially malignant performances you and your chums enact. That’s what I do.
For example, the lifeless image of Malachi, for which you Loser Cruisers have some perverse desire, is a human form absolutely without will – but it seems to satisfy you in that this object of desire is seen to be capable of absolute subjugation, without possibility of resistance. Sound familiar? No?
Think of Joe and Gerry who use the mutilated fetus image as a form of sadism and monstrous exhibitionism and as a form of humiliation toward women that is abnormally exciting for them.
Or consider yourself. Compare your transgressive performances against social norms. You are not much different than Wayne Gacy who said “The dead wont’ bother you. It’s the living you got to worry about.” It is your job to worry about the living women entering the abortion clinic. With utter indifference to their human life, you hunt down women to inflict as much emotional pain as possible using extremely wicked language infused with heinous intent. You seem to take great pleasure in eviscerating women with fear. You say, “Be afraid, be very afraid.” But fear is a public emotion with civic capital that you traffic in, calling it “the common good” when it is likely something else. Rather than trade ghoulishness for the social good as some type of warning, your serial reprisals, as if from the foul rag and bone shop of the heart, seek to evacuate the humanity in women.
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June 21, 2012 at 11:19 am
“Surely you flatter yourself if you think that you or your fellow terrorists get my goat (whatever that may mean to your muddled mind).”
I wasn’t thinking of my buddies, they don’t read this anyway. I was referring to folks who do try to read it. If anyone of them thinks we loser cruisers don’t get under your skin, she has to be one of the many illiterates who squawk here sometimes.
(I stopped reading after your first sentence. Get to the rest later.)
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June 21, 2012 at 2:46 pm
John, They are trying to get my goat to, but I won’t tell them where I parked it. ; – )
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June 21, 2012 at 4:26 pm
too
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June 21, 2012 at 6:32 pm
Another Dunkle waste of space comment only meant to distract from his true lack of wit.
It is common knowledge that fixing other’s grammar or spelling on a blog reveals the author (Dunkle) inability to construct good written positions.
That has been noted time and time again . . .
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June 22, 2012 at 4:34 am
author’s
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June 22, 2012 at 7:44 am
and “Dunkle’s”
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June 22, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Very funny, Kathleen
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June 21, 2012 at 6:26 pm
I had to laugh at the getting your goat comment.
Just because you think that, does not mean it is true.
Consistent with your Bigoted Magical belief system John.
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June 22, 2012 at 4:44 am
Ali! How dare you! When I think something, it is always true!
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June 21, 2012 at 6:30 pm
I have tears in my eyes laughing!
Just like the 9/11 terrorists did not get our “goat,” Anti Abortion terrorism has yet to get anybody’s “goat!”
These anti abortion people are such a bunch of morons, it is worth reading for the laughs! Not the goats!
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June 22, 2012 at 4:47 am
Kate, sometimes the illiterate squawker is a “he.”
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June 21, 2012 at 10:56 am
Kate, a camp counselor years ago told me of a particularly difficult 10-year-old that was driving the staff nuts. I suggested they hold an assembly and dunk the kid in the post-lunch trash barrel.
“Oh, no!” protested my friend, “That would be giving him the attention he wants!”
Never mind that they’re not really pro-life. It looks like the same mindset is in operation outside the clinic.
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June 21, 2012 at 11:21 am
You said this before, Chuck.
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June 21, 2012 at 6:24 pm
Agreed, Another Extremely POWERFUL Article on Abortion.ws that reveals the the nature of the mentally challenged curmudgeons of the anti abortion misogynistic seniles in our country.
Gladly, they are a tiny proportion of clear thinking people.
They truly achieve nothing by their actions except when they resort to terrorism and murder. And still when they do, they only make the average American hate these bilious filled creatures less and less relevant to Any conversation.
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June 22, 2012 at 4:41 am
I’m saving this, changed slightly: “They truly achieve nothing by their actions except when they resort to force, even to the point of termination.”
And to think it comes from a pro-deather! Albeit a semi-literate one, but a pro-deather nevertheless.
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June 22, 2012 at 2:45 pm
so you’re NOT saving
you’re creating a stoopit parody
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June 22, 2012 at 3:35 pm
?
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June 22, 2012 at 1:00 pm
I think some conservatives sleep well at night because they are so absolutely clueless to all the destructive torment they cause other people with their ignorance, dogma and intolerance.
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June 22, 2012 at 1:39 pm
Couldn’t be me. I’m a liberal.
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June 22, 2012 at 3:44 pm
EC, check “Contraception” is Murder,” my newsletter. I’m putting your observation about the use of force into the July issue, out soon, spruced up a bit.
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February 10, 2014 at 7:45 am
Ah yes, nicely put, evenoyre.
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June 21, 2012 at 6:03 am
Here’s a real gem of a find from a prolifer named Josh Brahm, talking about poor prolife arguments—-
“While surprising to some audiences, pro-lifers occasionally make arguments that are easily refutable. They also sometimes use tactics during abortion debates that are counter-productive. Josh analyzes nine examples in this presentation:
1. “Your mother chose life!”
2. “The Bible is pro-life!”
3. “Abortion is wrong because it hurts the economy.”
4. “Abortion is wrong because it hurts women / causes breast cancer.”
5. “Think of all the Beethoven’s we’ve murdered.”
6. “Abortion is wrong because it tortures babies to death.”
7. “We shouldn’t use embryonic stem cell research because adult stem cell research has more results.”
8. Endless quibbling over terms with pro-choice people.
9. Focusing on the conspiracy theory that Planned Parenthood is a racist organization.
For more details go to:
http://prolifepodcast.net/2012/02/josh-brahm-live-9-faulty-pro-life-arguments-tactics/
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June 21, 2012 at 9:29 am
What a mix-up. Is Josh a prolifer? Does he refute these statements or does he offer them? What’s with #’s 8 and 9?
Getcher act together, Kate.
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June 21, 2012 at 11:26 am
OK, just finished reading the rest, Kate. Wasted my time. But again — “different from,” not “different than.” Don’t you even want to look good?
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June 21, 2012 at 6:34 pm
Still? The stupid comments?
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June 22, 2012 at 4:43 am
Still? The stupid comments?
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June 22, 2012 at 3:06 pm
When did ignorance become a point of view?
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June 22, 2012 at 3:37 pm
? Is that dorrit or igdorrit
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June 21, 2012 at 3:44 pm
It just occurred to me as I was reading the above post, that most of you must have been on the bus with Karen Klein. Yup I do believe you were all there.
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June 21, 2012 at 4:27 pm
This gotta be Rog. As I said before, he does stuff like this.
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June 22, 2012 at 8:24 am
Sorry but rog doesn’t have the capability of thinking that deep.
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June 22, 2012 at 2:18 pm
deeply, not deep
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June 22, 2012 at 5:38 pm
Watch it, Dori. Now you’re talking to a prolifer.
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June 22, 2012 at 10:30 am
Kate and others, Do you equally apply the hyprocrisy test, or use it only for the ‘other’ side?
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June 22, 2012 at 11:20 am
It’s called transfer, a.
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June 22, 2012 at 1:12 pm
What is “the hyprocrisy [sp] test” pray tell? And how would one ‘apply’ the test? How is this test applied ‘equally’? Does that mean equality for gender, race, age or religion? Does this test apply to feminists and anti feminists (aka, door knobs)? Is the test something akin to applying an IQ test or applying delusion behaviors to mythical thinking to test for mental disorders? So, tell me, what’s the theory behind this hypocrisy test? How long has it been around? How has it been tested empirically?
My sense is that you write this question because you see yourself as an individual with steadfast virtues, moral and religious beliefs and/or principles while you perceive others as opposite; hence, the ‘othering’ of those who are outside, meaning, outside the big fish in your little pond. My guess is that you pretend to be virtuous, but you are not. You cannot help the anger and vitriol you unleash. So when the light shines on your dark, venomous heart, you convulse with the poison of your own shameful medicine.
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June 22, 2012 at 3:07 pm
Kate, A simple yes or no would have sufficed. Thinking too deep again.
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June 22, 2012 at 4:10 pm
Simple? Kathleen, is that the way you think? Simple like abortion is good? Simple like protesters are bad?
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June 22, 2012 at 4:46 pm
Kate, Have you watched a sunset lately or just hung out with the grandkids? Went to a movie with them just to see their faces light up with laughter. Enjoyed the dog and the beautiful days we are having. Everything doesn’t have to be so right on. I am simple you are right, maybe good maybe not but I really don’t think it matters too much lately.
Bill sez I am like a little kid. Hope he is right.
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June 22, 2012 at 6:24 pm
Sweetie, I took my grandchildren to see Harold and the Purple Crayon today at Muhlenberg College this morning then took them out for lunch at Cali Burrito (their choice). Monday evening, my daughter and her husband went to a Neil Diamond concert while the kids and I had beef stroganoff with papparadelle, broccoli and a salad for dinner—all of which I made from scratch. I did this by myself because my husband was in France on a consulting gig.
On another note, my grandchildren are with me every week day morning during the school year and every afternoon, after school. How does this information factor into your dateless condemnation of me? How do you account for the fact that they know how to cook amazing things, garden, travel with us, shop for produce at local farmer’s markets, discern the perfect entree at restaurants locally and abroad, perform on traveling LaCrosse teams, on the national honor roll, develop digital storytelling, sing in choir, play football. etc….
And for my dog, I adore her. She loves her brother, adores going to doggie day care and, on Tuesdays, loves going to the dog park. But every morning and every evening, the little darling is the love of my life. Her brother, my daughter’s dog, visits us every Tuesday and Thursday.
But just in case you think I’m some callous bitch, let me share with you that I finished grading papers while I was en route to the western states where my mother lives. She was hospitalized during Muhlenberg College’s finals and I needed to be with her. So, yes, I take lots of time to do things that matter. In fact, I spent 18 days in May with my mother. I managed to take care of her, get her to her doctors’ appointments and to physical therapy, post my grades electronically, and still post comments here on abortion.ws. In the meantime, Mother and I took time to walk, take breakfast on the patio, and share time with each other, visit farmer’s markets and spend time with relatives who came to visit.
Bottom line: What in the hell does this have to do with your original question about hypocrisy? Seriously, you ask a question, respond with obtuse comments based on ill-informed assumptions. Who would take you seriously? You are the intellectual equivalent of a Hallmark card—flowery, superficial, saccharine sentimentality, lacking the virtues of the complexities of a moral life.
If you can’t play with the big dogs, stay on the porch.
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June 23, 2012 at 4:24 am
Neil Diamond! Is he still alive? He’s older than I am!
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June 22, 2012 at 5:40 pm
What is “the hyprocrisy [sp] test” pray tell? And how would one “apply”’ the test? (Careful again, Kate.)
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June 22, 2012 at 6:44 pm
HERE WE GO AGAIN WE SPAM
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June 23, 2012 at 4:25 am
would one “apply” the test
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June 22, 2012 at 12:52 pm
Interesting article that has a great phrase “My abortion is not a good abortion. It’s just an abortion. And there’s no reason to treat the decision I have to make any differently than the decisions made by any other woman.”
It begins with:
As I write this, it is 1:17 am on Wednesday, June 20th, 2012.
I am lying awake in bed, trying to decide whether or not to have an abortion.
Of course, we don’t call it an abortion. We call it “a procedure” or a D&C. See, my potential abortion is one of the good abortions. I’m 31 years old. I’m married. These days, I’m pretty well off. I would very much like to stay pregnant right now. In fact, I have just spent the last year—following an earlier miscarriage—trying rather desperately to get pregnant.
Unfortunately, the doctors tell me that what I am now pregnant with is not going to survive. Last week, I had an ultrasound, I was almost 6 weeks along and looked okay. The only thing was that the heartbeat was slow. It wasn’t a huge deal. Heartbeats start slow, usually around the 6th week, and then they speed up. But my doctor asked me to come back in this week for a follow up, just to be sure. That was Tuesday, yesterday. Still my today. The heart hasn’t sped up. The fetus hasn’t grown. The egg yolk is now bigger than the fetus, which usually indicates a chromosomal abnormality. Basically, this fetus is going to die. I am going to have a miscarriage. It’s just a matter of when.
Because of these facts—all these facts—I get special privileges, compared to other women seeking abortion in the state of Minnesota.
Nobody has to tell my parents. I am not subject to a 24-hour waiting period. I do not have to sit passively while someone describes the gestational stage that my fetus is at, presents me with a laundry list of possible side-effects (some medically legit, some not), lectures me on all the other options that must have just slipped my mind, or forces me to look at enlarged, color photographs of healthy fetuses.
Because I have health insurance, I can afford a very nice OB/GYN whom I chose and who does not exercise her right to deny me this option. Thankfully, I don’t live in a state where she can legally lie to me about the status of my fetus, to dissuade me from having an abortion.
Most importantly, from my perspective, I have the privilege of a private abortion in a nondescript medical office. I will not have to go to an abortion clinic. I will not have to walk by any protesters—not even Charlie, the one guy who is paid to protest every day outside Minneapolis’ abortion clinic, where I have volunteered as an escort in the past.
Read the rest if you like: http://boingboing.net/2012/06/20/the-only-good-abortion-is-my-a.html#disqus_thread
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June 22, 2012 at 2:23 pm
The young lady is trying to decide whether to kill the baby or let her, probably, die. I won’t allow myself to dwell on the horror of her attitude.
But why can’t these folks learn to write? In the first italicized paragraph near the end, she writes “None of these options are . . .” In the next, “None of these options is . . .”
“Is,” of course, used to be correct because “none” is a contraction of “no one.” Recently, though, I’ve seen one of us liberals argue that it could also be the contraction of “not any.” Whatever. You gotta be consistent.
The piece is rife with similar errors.
You killers’ helpers gotta get your act together, in more ways than one.
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June 22, 2012 at 2:49 pm
I notice you seem hell-bent on making surly remarks about the mechanics of writing. A mechanically strong writer does not make a great writer only a technoturd….like you.
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June 22, 2012 at 3:40 pm
“technoturd” — oof — right in the gut
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June 23, 2012 at 6:47 am
Kate, Have a rocker for me?
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June 23, 2012 at 11:39 am
No, but I have an extra leash.
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June 23, 2012 at 11:54 am
Why, Jimmy’s been let off?
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June 23, 2012 at 5:40 pm
Hilarious
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June 23, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Oh my gosh Kate, you make me laugh. I would never have thought of that one. Well, at least I would be in good company, your dogs.
Gotta love this woman
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June 23, 2012 at 11:38 am
I heard something rather intriguing and wonder what the readers think. The statement referred to the anti abortion protesters. “It seems to me that if they truly believed REAL babies were being tortured, they’d do something more than stand around.”
Something to ponder. If we knew that Jews were being systematically annihilated, we would do something as a country, right?. Well we did because we knew men, women and children (as in born) were being killed. As well, we know that “babies” are not being tortured or murdered. We know that abortion kills a fetus. We also know that a fetus is not a baby or a child or a person or a young person. It’s just a fetus that is not wanted for whatever personal reason a woman may have. No knife going after a baby. No baby trying to get away from some doctor. No screaming. No pain. No thinking. No haunting at night. No child saying “Mommy I want to live. I want to go to the beach.” [sounds like science fiction, eh?]
It’s so convenient for the angry, bleeding hearts to show up and shout at women. How easy. How they must congratulate themselves at the end of day. How simple-minded they are to talk about Satan’s dominion over this country when it is they who are perpetuating evil toward others. It’s pretty obvious. They don’t really believe that real babies are being tortured. Of course, one could argue about the meaning of the word ‘real’ as it relates to products of conception (POC). Do poc make a woman pregnant? Yes. Do poc make a baby? No. Do products of conception have the potential to become a fetus and eventually a baby, after birth? Yes.
Arguing about ‘real’ baby is like arguing about the meaning of ‘true’ womanhood. Both terms are subject to multiple interpretations. Some of these anti abortion folks believe true womanhood means women are doormats full of piety, purity, submissiveness, and domesticity. But that’s a topic for a fuller treatment.
Anyway, it’s my sense that these poor anti abortion folks would like for us to believe that they think any product of conception is a real baby. If that’s true, and if they believe real babies are being tortured to death, what can be said of their convictions if all they do is stand outside and blather?
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June 23, 2012 at 12:06 pm
Now you’re getting somewhere, Kate! I knew if I didn’t chase you away and if I let you talk long enough, eventually you’d say something worthwhile.
I’m transferring this (errors included) into my July newsletter, and my take on it will be much longer.
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June 23, 2012 at 11:53 am
Today the clinic had two performances. The first performance began just shy of 7 a.m. and featured the Loser Cruisers, or as one person called them, the Dick Team. They included Joe and Nathaniel Kubick, Gerry McWilliams and John Dunkle and they offered nothing to humanity except their condemnation. Of course, there was a brief but pitiful appearance of the I-Regret-My-Abortion woman who, in another context would be mistaken for a hooker. She obviously was training a younger woman. Nothing like succession planning. Got to keep the world’s oldest profession alive, I guess.
The thing that strikes me as pitiful is this I-Regret-My-Abortion woman wallows in her alleged regret. Decades after the abortion, she’s still wallowing. Nothing has helped her? Not even the touted Rachel’s Vineyard has helped her? Researchers have been claiming for quite some time that any post abortion emotional disturbances were present prior to the abortion. In other words, preexisting conditions such as depression, anxiety or being in an abusive relationship could continue post abortion. So perhaps our little pitiful pearl ought to trot over to a psychiatric clinic instead of advertising her mental health issues outside a gynecology clinic.
The second performance arrived in dribbles, drabs and waddles. It included the late-to-the-scene lackluster team of four indistinguishable women and one dull-as-dirt guy, all who offered nothing but evidence that they have no respect for women’s privacy. Plus, it’s sad to watch how utterly clueless they are about racial sensitivity when they showed up with their greeting-card images of white babies. Guess they flunked race consciousness classes.
Together, they parked in their little lawn chairs on the right-of-way, waiting for an opportunity for show and tell. To demonstrate to everyone how much they cared (not), they sat on their duffs and lazily waved their signs at passers-by. It was like watching five fat, senile, neutered, declawed cats after their dinner on a warm summer evening. Much ado about nothing.
I finally left out of boredom.
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June 23, 2012 at 12:07 pm
Ach, now you’re back to your old self — worthless.
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June 23, 2012 at 8:56 pm
Oh, Sweetie, where would you be if you didn’t have imaginary enemies to call worthless? You won’t/can’t tell Margaret or your children such things so you need the ‘old worthless self’ to sustain your sense of ‘importante’
Is this as good as it gets for you, John?
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June 24, 2012 at 4:17 am
I didn’t mean to call you worthless, Kate. You’re not. Especially when you come up with great stuff, like #9.
The stuff where you criticize your opponents’ looks is worthless. Haven’t you ever heard of the glass house — hooker, sitting on one’s duff, senility (and right there in the Valley of the Ancients)?
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June 24, 2012 at 8:14 am
You’re right. The personal comments, while widely shared, don’t need to be shared on this blog. As for the glass house, yes, I’ve heard the phrase. And your point is?
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June 24, 2012 at 8:35 am
My point is people who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.
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June 24, 2012 at 10:58 am
I know the phrase, John. Beyond the superficiality of repeating the phrase, what is your point? It makes sense for those who are so frail, so vulnerable and so lacking self esteem like most of the whiners who protest.
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June 24, 2012 at 11:19 am
Kate, Thanks for acknowledging that personal comments don’t need to be shared. I will keep that point in mind. Glad I wasn’t the monitor on the bus.
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June 24, 2012 at 12:03 pm
I acknowledge that they don’t need to be shared from the perspective of civility. The obvious facts stand, nonetheless.
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June 24, 2012 at 5:11 pm
“Beyond the superficiality of repeating the phrase, what is your point?”
Boy, you do press, don’t you. I will tell you my point privately. I will not humiliate you publicly.
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June 23, 2012 at 5:30 pm
Viva Cristo Rey!
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June 24, 2012 at 11:22 am
Hello sez, Let’s play nice. Stop all of this poking fun at people and how they look.
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June 24, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Poking fun? Poking fun seems a misnomer.
But let’s face the facts. The overwhelming majority of protesters who frequent the clinic do not have the self-esteem or sense of worth to withstand any criticism, at all. One guy loves to dish out “man up” or “be a man” but when called out, when his masculinity is questioned, he freaks out and says repeatedly, “I am a man, I am a man.”
Or another one thinks it’s totally OK to question a young client saying “How can you be so flip about killing your child?” But if an escort comments on your drunken son who was arrested, that’s off limits.
Or another protester whined to the asst chief of police who showed up at the clinic several years ago because college students were counter protesting. She started crying and complaining it wasn’t fair. He said, “Lady you’re a pain in my ass.”
You see these folks are big whiners. Can’t take any heat but, by god, they can dish out the shit, right and left, AND feel really righteous.
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June 24, 2012 at 5:07 pm
Wow! Remember that day, Kate! College students, maybe; homosexuals, obviously, and led by their straight leader, Alex.. At first they infiltrated and almost silenced the sweet old things praying the rosary. The cops arrived in the nick of time and forced them inside the fence because they had no street permit. They continued the attack and I joined those praying with my loud voice amplified by the big, orange, Gettysburg College megaphone. They wilted before the Hail Marys I belted. Alex then led them as far away from me as possible, but I followed and again drowned them out. Ah, the power of prayer.
All this with my “prolife” enemy, Kathy Kuhns, trying to place herself between them and me. At first I just belted right over the top because she’s short. When we moved, I hugged the fence. No room for her there.
What’s you take on that, Kate?
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June 24, 2012 at 6:26 pm
My take? Dear, Johnnie, you are quite the writer of the novella, aren’t you?
Sweet old things? Seriously. Some old white fart got his undies in such a knot that it was comical. Just about as comical as the drek queen from Prolife Berks.
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June 24, 2012 at 6:28 pm
And, by the way, there was no megaphone. John, unless you have video footage, your claims are lost on your imagination.
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June 24, 2012 at 6:59 pm
My big, orange, Gettysburg college megaphone not there! Don’t say that! I can see it now in my mind’s eye!
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June 25, 2012 at 8:21 am
Are you here to help women or to critize the protestors? Every thing I have been reading does nothing for the men and women going in to have an abortion. All I hear is bickering back and forth about who said what, how someone looks or behaves, editorials up the gazoo. Stop already and get back doing what each of you do. Both sides need to get back on track of what their mission really is. You sure do have a knack for getting off track. Since you all seem to know one another so well why not settle this when you are together.
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June 25, 2012 at 10:02 am
Yeah, Kate, why not. Leave your gun at home and I will too. No pat downs longer than thirty seconds.
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June 25, 2012 at 10:30 am
You seriously want to put in writing that you carry a gun?
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June 25, 2012 at 10:42 am
I wish you could replace your anger with a sense of humor. And don’t think that the loud laugh bursting forth a dozen times every Saturday morning proves otherwise.
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June 26, 2012 at 1:09 pm
you spelled God wrong
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June 26, 2012 at 7:23 am
Pat,
The legislation that has been put forth in the past two years, at the state and federal levels, illustrate one point you make about the overwhelming ignorance of those who consider voting for a law based on personal values. We have this silly notion that these folks are voted into office to represent their constituents. Instead they vote, all to often, with limited information. The PBA is one case in particular. At the state level, the transvaginal ultrasound was another requirement that trampled the rights of women and the legal rights physicians to make decisions about needed procedures. In Harrisburg, PA, the government, in a knee-jerk reaction to the Gosnell shop of horrors, passed a law requiring all abortion clinics to conform to ambulatory surgical clinic (ASC) standards. The state was caught with their pants down. No one in the Dept of Health had inspected Gosnell and other clinics despite complaints. In fact the Gosnell case only blew open because he was trafficking in prescription drugs. Botched abortions were a side note.
So now, a few clinics in PA have been closed and many are operating with provisional licenses while they bring their site up to code. The real kicker is that this law does not, in any way, impact the type of direct care that nurses, counselors and doctors deliver. It might make the prolife crowd happier but the law does absolutely nothing for quality care other than to make it more expensive for women who need abortions. In the meantime, the PA government is wasting serious sums of money trying to figure out how to implement this new law, money that could be better spent on helping women access family planning health care, access child care, and access early childhood education for their children.
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June 26, 2012 at 8:05 am
1. God won’t ask what kind of fancy car you drove.
He will ask how many people you took to church who didn’t have
transportation.
2. God won’t ask the square footage of your house.
He will ask how many people you helped who didn’t have a house.
3. God won’t ask how many fancy clothes you had in your closet.
He will ask how many of those clothes you gave away.
4. God won’t ask what social class you were in.
He will ask what kind of class you displayed.
5. God won’t ask how many material possessions you had.
He will ask whether those material possessions dictated your life.
6. God won’t ask what your highest salary was.
He will ask if you trampled over any people to obtain that salary.
7. God won’t ask how much overtime you worked.
He will ask did you work overtime for your family.
8. God won’t ask how many promotions you received.
He will ask what you did to promote others.
9. God won’t ask what your job title was.
He will ask did you perform your job to the best of your ability.
10. God won’t ask how many promotions you took to chase a dollar bill.
He will ask how many promotions you refused, to advance your family’s
quality of life.
11. God won’t ask how many times you didn’t run around on your spouse.
He will ask how many times you did.
12. God won’t ask how many degrees you had.
He will ask how many people you thanked for helping you get those
degrees.
13. God won’t ask what your parents did to help you.
He will ask what you did to help your parents.
14. God won’t ask what you did to help yourself.
He will ask what you did to help others.
15. God won’t ask how many friends you had.
He will ask how many people you were a friend to.
16. God won’t ask what you did to protect your rights.
He will ask what you did to protect the right of others.
17. God won’t ask what neighborhood you lived in.
He will ask what other neighborhoods you visited.
18. God won’t ask how many times you told the truth.
He will ask how many times you told a lie.
19. God won’t ask about the color of your skin.
He will ask about the color of your heart.
20. God won’t ask how many times your deeds matched your words.
He will ask how many times they didn’t.
All of us will stand before God someday..and everything we did, said, and
thought will all come to light.
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June 26, 2012 at 1:01 pm
Spoken like a true believer in mythical thinking
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June 26, 2012 at 4:24 pm
The question of the existence of a god is a topic that comes up repeatedly in the debate hall and proving grounds, and the outcome is the same each time: no side wins over the other, because both sides are based on FAITH. Theists have faith that a god exists, and atheists have faith that there is no god. There is no concrete evidence to support either side, and religion debates always boil down to the unshakable beliefs of the participants.
The teachings of religious documents (or any sources of religious doctrine) are invalid arguments in debates, because many people are not part of whatever religion the document is from.
And, more to the point, what does this have to do with abortion?
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June 26, 2012 at 6:47 pm
Well I think it has a lot to do with child-killing, but I think you’re right anyway, mostly.
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