Well, I guess the day after Father’s Day is as good as any to talk about men and abortion.
It goes without saying that most men are affected when their partner becomes pregnant. I say “most” because we know there are jerks out there who are just into the wham-bam-thank you m’am mode of relationships. Let’s put them aside for the moment. No, on second thought, let’s cut their ____ off.
But I digress.
When a woman becomes pregnant and is not sure what to do, she will generally talk to the man who was involved. But the fact that there are two people involved means that there could be a difference of opinion on what to do. The bottom line, of course, is that if there is a conflict, then the woman’s opinion must prevail. After all, it is her body, right? Indeed, a number of years ago, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that laws requiring the spouse’s consent to an abortion were unconstitutional.
I’ll say right up front that I can’t prove this, but I have to believe that when faced with this difficult decision both parties usually arrive at the same conclusion. I’m thinking particularly of more established couples (versus one night stands), where they’ve been either dating for a long time, have been living together or are married. You gotta assume that if they’ve been together for a while then they are generally pretty simpatico (although my parents were an exception to that rule). So, the vast majority of couples don’t face any problems.
And while the decision to have an abortion is ultimately the woman’s, we all want to be sensitive to the man’s situation. That’s why it is important for the man to convey all of his feelings to his partner. He may be feeling guilty about “getting a woman pregnant.” He may be concerned that the woman might want to discontinue the relationship. He may be thinking about that son that he could have had. If the man is invested in the relationship, then his feelings are just as complex and need to be recognized.
But, again, at some point the woman may decide to have the abortion and the man may feel a little lost in the process. He may not know what to do, what to say. But there are a number of things the man can do during the abortion process.
Tell your partner that you’re sorry she is the one who has to go through this physically;
I know this is hard for some men but, yes, ask her how she’s feeling and give her some kind of gift;
Don’t even think about sex for a while because she may not be ready. After all, it was sex that put her in that predicament, right?
Talk, talk, talk. You know how women are – they love to process while men prefer one word answers so they can get back to the ball game. So, suck it up, dudes, and talk to her.

June 21, 2010 at 9:05 am
Talking and abortion.
Please remember what talking is.
Up to 50% of ER visits from pregnant women come from spouse abuse.
As well domestic violence through inumerable ways, DSM, Statute, and Law define verbal abuse as well as a form of domestic violence.
I would read up on that as it is epidemic.
Talking, communicating properly is always a good thing.
Yes, as a corallary, it is well understood that men are abused by The Family Law system.
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June 21, 2010 at 11:36 am
Man……. talking???? Hard to find one of it…
But i agree, if there was more talking in general, not just about abortion, there was not going to be so many divorces and destroyed families… Of course we all like the comfort of modernity but man i do miss the time when families were to sit at the dinner table to talk about their day… Everything became so lost…
Not always the women wants to go to an abortion clinic, but the thought of having a child by itself it is scary as the abortion itself… believe me, being there, done that…
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June 21, 2010 at 2:02 pm
You’re right, Sonia, we need to have more conversations but that’s just not how most men are built. They are taught from an early age to not show any emotions. As for talking at the dinner table, there’s usually a television in the background or the participants are on their blackberrys. We just dont engage personally anymore.
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June 21, 2010 at 2:03 pm
And, Elena, I would love to comment but I haven’t the foggiest idea what point you’re trying to make. You seem very intelligent, perhaps too intelligent to corral your thoughts into a more cogent message for us dummies..
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June 21, 2010 at 4:36 pm
If Pat were a man trying to get men to be supportive of their woman’s choice, she would have skipped all the communication/empathy/openness shtick and emphasized child support laws.
The single biggest thing to make men think about their date’s pregnancy is their awareness of the effectiveness of child support enforcement. When they find out that their tax refund, their lottery winnings and their paycheck are subject to seizure, they get pretty serious about listening to the woman…
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June 21, 2010 at 6:38 pm
I dont think men are thinking that far down the road when they are screwing.
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June 21, 2010 at 6:42 pm
in more ways than one
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June 21, 2010 at 7:01 pm
But they are much more disposed to favor abortion AFTER the screwing than they used to be!
Back when I was their age, a friend of mine advised me, “If you ever want to get a girl into the sack, tell her you’ve had a vasectomy.”
“But what if she gets pregnant?”
“That’s not your problem.”
Times have changed. This state is #1 in child support enforcement, and the first man they arrested was a paraplegic. The administrator of the office told me, “When guys see us arresting a guy in a wheelchair, they’ll understand we’re going to come after them.”
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June 21, 2010 at 9:47 pm
That is exactly my point Pat… If families were to give not much… only dinner time the chance of a family get together, probably so many things could change… I use to work for a Jewish family, those that takes seriously the shabbat, so one day (i didn’t know than what was the real meaning of the shabbat) i ask the mom why?
She said that in special now in days where everybody is so busy with their personal life and have so much technology involved, the shabbat was to bring the family time back to their lives, of course that maybe back in the time when the shabbat was established was a different reason, but her explanation to me was that. After sun down on fridays until saturday sun down they were not to watch TV, talk on the phone, etc… was for them to talk to each other, enjoy the family and things like this… So when i mention dinner time, one of my points were that back in 19…. when this family foundation was more active, the number of abortion, in special with the teenagers, were probably reasonable… of course was not legal, but whatever…. If the pro-life people want’s to make the abortio numbers to go down, SORRY FOLKS wrong way… in special when you become a fool and start carrying guns and killing people….
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June 22, 2010 at 9:49 am
I yearn for those days, Sonia. Things do move much too quickly nowadays. And you’re right, it’s the ability to communicate so quickly. I’ve got two boys and all they do is text all day long when they are not in school.
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June 22, 2010 at 5:23 pm
Simply,
You wrote a good Post about talking.
Especially when it comes to Abortion.
I do not believe most people know that when men think they are talking, often the facts I stated are occurring,
Domestic violence.
Your goal of talk and communication is righteous and lofty, sadly, as you said yourself (I think) the skills are often just not there.
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To further the point, if in school, every year part of the curriculum was about the reality of life – age appropriate of coarse, a lot of solutions could be created.
Like at a certain age Teenagers learn the Natural History of relationships so they are not shocked when the enmeshment euphoria stages after they are pregnant and married for a year.
The reality of how hard it is to take care of a baby.
The reality of contraception, that it fails.
That everyone has the right to determine their pursuit of goals.
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And yes the comment about “thinking that far down the road” was funny, I chuckled out loud!
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June 22, 2010 at 5:53 pm
Some people have to learn by experience, especially in the matter of unprotected sex.
Twenty years ago, a laid-off aerospace engineer created “Baby Thinkaboutit,” a sensor-loaded doll the appearance, size and weight of a four-month-old child. It’s still popular in home ec classrooms. The children get to care for it for a week. If they neglect it, starve it, abuse it, it lets the teacher know. It has to be fed or cuddled to stop its crying, it needs to have its diaper changed. At the end of the week, it produces a report on the nature of the interaction– sometimes it reports it was killed.
And you’d think kids would come away from that experience– especially if it was a bad one– thinking, “Boy, I sure need to learn a lot more!” And probably many of them do.
However, some get pregnant despite having had a bad week, and they keep their babies. When asked why they decided to have a baby after having an unsatisfactory and sometimes downright unpleasant week with Baby Thinkaboutit, they say, “I know I can do better with a baby of my own.”
The power of the primary caretaker!
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June 23, 2010 at 1:05 pm
And in the high school that I teach at, there is a group of kids who think having a baby at that young age is cool, and the school actually has day care for their babies. is that the right signal we want to send?
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June 23, 2010 at 4:22 pm
Whatever you teach, Pat, it isn’t psychology and it’s not public professional training for women’s crisis centers.
Kids want to have kids for some very strong reasons, none of which come from most of the grown-ups around them. They want to have kids because commercials for baby products never have a crying, sick or demanding baby; because they want someone to love them the way their parents don’t love them; because they want to show their mother they can love better than she can; because they want to impress their friends; because they heard they can get money if they have a kid; and even more of the time they don’t want to have a baby, but the 27-year-old “boy friend” doesn’t care; because they were taught how to be abstinent; because they were taught nothing about sex; because they were raped…
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June 24, 2010 at 10:04 am
I agree, CG. And I teach government….
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