Veterans
Today is a day that we thank all of the veterans who served our country. In that same vein, I would like to take a moment to thank all of the “veterans” in the abortion provider movement who put their lives on the line to serve millions and millions of women over the years. Below is my not very comprehensive list. Sorry if I left you out,but my memory is fading. The folks I am listing have been public about their work so I am not revealing anything new. But there are many others who have “served” who I am not naming because they understandably wish to remain anonymous.
THE OWNERS
Renee Chelian, Claire Keyes, Deb Walsh, Rusty Stengle, Jane Bovard, Kelly Martin, Marilyn Eldridge, Merle Hoffman, Amy Miller , Gail Frances, Herb Wiskind, Tammy Sobieski, Gerry Grossman, Diane Derzis, Ed Allred, Wayne Codding, Ted and Patricia Windle
THE DOCTORS
Lee Carhart, Tyrone Malloy, David Gluck, Martin Haskell, Charlie Benjamin, Norman Fisk, Lloyd Benjamin,
Dr. George Tiller
Curtis Boyd, Gary Boyle, Richard Manning, Lorraine Cummings, Mildred Hanson, Sue Wicklund, Peter Bours, Elizabeth Newhall, Sylvester Braithwaite, Bill Fitzhugh, Robert Rho, Melanie Maclennan, William West, George Dainoff, Amy Cousins, Takey Crist, Randy Whitney , Mohammed Imran, Bruce Lucero, Warren Hern, Jerry Hulka, Damon Stutes
THE ADMINISTRATORS
Lorraine Maguire, Elizabeth Barnes, Jennifer Vriens, Charlotte Taft, Allie Harper, Jen Boulanger, Jessica Wilson, Toni Hawkins, Kathy Olson, Carol Westfall, Beverly Whipple, Marcy Bloom, Lisa Thomas, Chrisse France, Kudra McCalleich, Marilyn Buckman, JoDell Nauert, Jane Cerilli, Debi Jackson, Pam O’Leary, Stephanie Guilbaud, Carol Belding, Celeina Houston, Pat Mitchell, Sally Burgess, Karen Kubby, Francine Thompson, Kim Collins, Dena Vogler, Shauna Heckert, K.B. Kohls, Iggy DeBlasi, Susan Derwin, LaDonna Prince, Candace Dye
Susan Hill
THOSE WHO ARE NO LONGER WITH US
George Tiller, Susan Hill, Bill Knorr, David Gunn, Bart Slepian, Baird Britton, Myron Chrisman, Jerry Campagna, Michael Nauert, Harold Tickten, Norma and Carl Stave, Curtis Stover, Robert Kisner ,
Buck Williams, Jim McMahon, Jim Barrett, Eugene Glick
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November 11, 2010 at 11:25 am
These vets can’t be thanked enough for fighting the good fight. Thanks for this post!
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November 11, 2010 at 1:41 pm
Thanks, Eleanor. If I had created another category it would have been for people like yourself who also have given so much to the movement through your writings…
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November 11, 2010 at 11:50 am
I’d add to this list all those who selflessly volunteer to escort and do so because they trust and respect women. Kate
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November 11, 2010 at 1:43 pm
You’re right, Kate. I started thinking I could have made the list much longer, there are so many others out there who have helped providers: Ellie Smeal, David Gunn, Jr., Anna Quinlan, Congresswoman Nita Lowey and others….Including you!
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November 11, 2010 at 11:54 am
Could you print addresses with these names, Pat?
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November 11, 2010 at 1:43 pm
C’mon, John, youre more resourceful than that. Geez, their addresses are probably on the Army of God website, no?
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November 11, 2010 at 3:23 pm
Is that some kind of threat? What would you do with their addresses?
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November 11, 2010 at 4:57 pm
Melissa, John is just tweaking us, wants us to think that if we gave him addresses he’d start stalking others. He is tethered to his home, ain’t going nowhere else. Anyway, I think it was just tongue in cheek…
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November 11, 2010 at 5:11 pm
As I tell the feds when they visit me, “I ain’t denying it and I ain’t admitting it.” Here’s why: if I deny it, they’ll look elsewhere because they know we always tell the truth; if I admit it, I’m being stupid, right? (Shut up, Rog.)
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November 16, 2010 at 2:29 pm
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November 11, 2010 at 2:29 pm
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November 11, 2010 at 2:56 pm
I would like to remember Ernest Harris the founder of clinics in Ala, SC, NC, Tenn. Miss, Puerto Rico…He gave so much to “abortion rights” and he “trusted women” those that came to his facilities and those women that worked for him. He hired me to work in his SC clinic and before he died in 1989 made me a partner. I will never forget his kindness to me…He was the father I always wished I had!! He was a kind man and we never turned a women away because of their ability to pay!! Rest in peace my friend…
Also George…who spent many years keeping our clinic safe…Thank you friend….
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November 11, 2010 at 4:58 pm
I never met Ernest Harris but, of course, met George. Thanks for mentioning them both.
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November 11, 2010 at 6:19 pm
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November 12, 2010 at 8:34 am
Not sure what you’re trying to say, Saynsumthing….
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November 12, 2010 at 2:52 pm
Pat, are you really that slow or…
The guy has written a post on his blog about your post.
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November 12, 2010 at 4:18 pm
I finally figured it out. Go to Saynsumthn’s blog. It’s all black, red and unreadable.
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November 14, 2010 at 1:57 pm
I guess I’m just really “that slow,” Julia…
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November 12, 2010 at 8:51 pm
Those who are no longer with us should include the 50 million babies that have been aborted “legally!” since 1973
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November 13, 2010 at 4:59 am
Get with it, A! Those are not really “us.” They’re too little! Besides, lots of them grow up to be buzzards and antelope. And, finally, people should not have to live with those they don’t want around. (That’s what scares me.)
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November 14, 2010 at 11:00 am
“A person’s a person, no matter how small” Dr Seuss
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November 14, 2010 at 1:58 pm
Well, Anonymous, quoting Doctor Seuss just tells me how infantile you really are…
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November 14, 2010 at 4:54 pm
Pat,
The Seus comment ranks right up there with one of John’s young, male cohorts who is fond of saying “truth is truth” as if that says it all. It’s like a three year old who says I like it because I like it.
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November 15, 2010 at 11:33 am
It is what it is, Kate….
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November 17, 2010 at 5:12 pm
And that’s a really intelligent reply.
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November 14, 2010 at 11:16 am
It is unbelievable that you can equate our heroic service men and women who have fought bravely and justly throughout the ages for our safety and freedom, with the men and women who rip innocent babies, limb from limb from what should be the safest place in the world; their mother’s womb. You’re waging war against the vulnerable woman and her baby: one injured, one dead!
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November 14, 2010 at 12:01 pm
Careful A & J, we get too many clear-thinking people on this blog, they’ll shut us down.
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November 14, 2010 at 2:00 pm
Dont worry, John. I dont see many “clear thinking people” that I need to be concerned about…
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November 14, 2010 at 3:47 pm
Clear thinking needs to be defined, needs some standards, begs for criteria.
Pat, I agree, very few “clear thinking people” that should bother us even a trifle.
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November 14, 2010 at 12:47 pm
Bravely and justly? Which war was justified? Tell that to the many women and their children in Iraq and Afganistan. Justified to bomb, rape and kill civilians?
It is unbelievable that you cannot comprehend the egregious imperialism with which this country colonizes other countries under the auspices of “protecting our interests” which is code for lining my pockets as a shareholder in Halliburton.
As for waging war on another front, take a look at all the terrorists who go by the name of prolifer, advocate for life, sidewalk counselor or missionary to the unborn–all waging war against legal health care providers and their female clients. Those providers are brave because they dedicate their lives to service to women regardless of their needs. It is the domestic terrorists like John Dunkle, Terry Randall and Flip Benham who leave women and their companions vulnerable. Innocent civilians seeking health care should not be subjected to the conflicts imposed by jihadists from the moral minority.
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November 14, 2010 at 2:01 pm
Well said, Kate!
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November 17, 2010 at 10:33 am
Randall Terry
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November 17, 2010 at 12:04 pm
You trot out those same old tired arguments. Are you seriously telling me that abortionists are not lining their pockets? There’s big money in abortion. I’m sure they’re not “dedicating their lives to service women” for the love of it.
Please…. tell me something I haven’t heard to convince me that murdering the unborn babies is okay.
And another thing.. why is abortion “health care”? Pregnancy is not a disease and it doesn’t need curing.
The fact is, nothing takes more life than abortion: no wars, no acts of terrorism, no disease.
More people in America now consider themselves Pro-life than Pro-abortion. I am happy to be part of the moral majority.
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November 17, 2010 at 12:58 pm
Hear! Hear!
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November 18, 2010 at 10:04 am
Jay, I appreciate your opposition to abortion but please use facts. Abortion clinics make some money but not as much as you might think. I work with them on a daily basis, used to be part of their national organization and I can tell you that they dont make the kind of money you think. And, besides, you make it sound like they are ripping off women. Did you know the average price of an abortion is $400? That’s just about what it cost in 1973. Did you know that many clinics provide abortions for free? Did you know that some clinics are closing because they are not making the kind of money you think they are making? Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts.
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February 10, 2014 at 6:42 am
God help me, I put aside a whole afnrteoon to figure this out.
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November 14, 2010 at 2:00 pm
It may be unbelievable, Jay, but I am paying tribute to these folks. And, please – all of those “vulnerable women.” You’re quite the feminist, my friend…
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November 17, 2010 at 12:06 pm
Not sure what you mean!
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November 14, 2010 at 2:06 pm
I agree with Kate: the last just war we had was Vietnam. Since then it’s been pure aggression. But how she gets from there to killing babies is beyond me.
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November 14, 2010 at 3:44 pm
Abortion is not killing babies. Good grief. I did not make any leap from Vietnam, since I did not mention Vietnam, to killing babies, since no babies have been killed, again. The real war has been imperial hostility of our government and religious jihadists toward those who provide abortions and care for women.
But how you get from my comments about a civilian war against women and their health care providers to some aggression toward babies is beyond me. It’s like being taken on Mr. Toad’s Wild Ride at Disneyland in Anaheim, CA—all smoke and mirrors, no realit, no babies.
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November 15, 2010 at 11:37 am
Vietnam was not a just war if you ask me. It was just like the current war or wars. It was based on a faulty premise, perpetuated by constant lies from the generals. Dont get me started…
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November 17, 2010 at 10:40 am
Two superpowers were fighting then, Pat. Battles broke out in the Near East, the Far East, the Caribbean, Europe, South and Central America.
Vietnam was just one of those battles, and we stopped them there, for better or worse. Soon after that one of the two collapsed and since then it’s been just plain old bullying.
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November 18, 2010 at 10:00 am
We “stopped” them in Vietnam? I kinda remember us getting the hell out there of there as they were taking over South Vietnam. Sure, the Russian empire collapsed later on, but not because we “stopped” them in Vietnam….
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November 18, 2010 at 1:05 pm
Well they did go into Cambodia then, but that’s about it. Sure we stopped them. Otherwise they’d be in Terre Haute.
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November 14, 2010 at 8:48 pm
Don’t bother going past the first sentence. That’s been the cry of the killers throughout the ages: the gas chambers are not killing people because Jews are not really people, slavery is not killing anybody because Africans are not really people, purges are not killing real Chinese because dissidents are not really people, and abortion is not killing anybody either because fetuses are not really people, to name just the more recent. You’ve gotta get over that first hill, Kate, before you climb the mountain. Pat’s there, at least.
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November 15, 2010 at 5:02 am
You should know about killers, John, since you worship them in their jail cells. Folks like Scott Roeder, Paul Hill, Michael Griffin, Eric Rudolph, to name just the more recent.
The real difference with the people who you chose to list and abortion is the difference between human beings who are alive, as in discrete individuals, feet on the ground. A fetus, on the other hand, is a parasite until it’s born. After it’s born, call it what you are welcome to call it a baby. That’s my stand. I’m not climbing any metaphorical hill or mountain of your creation.
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November 15, 2010 at 5:32 am
Yeah, you’re still stuck — if I wanna kill them, they’re not people, they’re parasites (told you, Pat).
The metaphor is not calling you young before you were born, that’s a fact; the metaphor is calling you a parasite. You were like a parasite, then, because you depended on others, similar to the way you are now. But there is an infinite difference between you, in both stages of your life, and a mushroom.
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November 15, 2010 at 5:54 am
First you talk about climbing hills and mountains and now you’re talking about metaphors calling you young before you were born….and you who are so nit-picky about the mechanics of writing. Too early for you?
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November 15, 2010 at 6:06 am
Read the second paragraph in #12 and all of #13 three more times (with dictionary). Then if you still don’t understand, get back to me.
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November 15, 2010 at 11:40 am
But let me ask you, Kate. When a woman comes in at 24 weeks for an abortion, can you understand how some people might say the doctor is “killing a baby?” If that same person had a miscarriage or some kind of accident and the baby was wanted, we’d be saying she “lost the baby.”
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November 16, 2010 at 9:32 am
Pat,
Yes I can understand how people might say the doctor is killing a baby at 24 weeks. I can also understand how people say they are pregnant with a baby when they are 8 weeks pregnant. But answering your question does not in any way approximte the nuances and complexities of women’s decisions about pregnancies–wanted, unplanned, nonviable, viable, etc. People will talk, as we see on this blog and others. But when a woman needs to terminate a pregnancy at 24 weeks because of a fetal anomaly or fetal demise or because the woman’s health is in serious jeopardy, some will still call the it killing a baby. Scott Roeder and John Dunkle are two examples. They care less about the women and the doctors who care for them. Dr. Tiller lost his life because he cared for women and because people like Roeder believed Dr. Tiller killed babies.
I cannot, for the life of me, comprehend how painful it must be for women and their husbands/boyfriends to have to make the decision to terminate a wanted pregnancy. And then to have people say horrible things like you killed your baby just adds fuel to the flames.
This space is not large enough to fully express how I feel and what I understand but hope this response answers your question. Kate
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November 16, 2010 at 12:28 pm
I just raise the issue, Kate, because it really is the big “dead elephant” in the room that pro-choicers often ignore. We do not even want to think about the very tough issues. Years ago, I was quoted in the NY Times as saying “abortion is a form of killing.” Interestingly, the world didn’t change, the antis did not comment. I’m not saying we should put out advertising saying abortion is killing, but when asked the tough question we should not be afraid to give a blunt answer. Cause when we do that, the antis dont know what to say in reply. Correct, John????
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November 16, 2010 at 11:30 am
Kate forgot to add something: “I will continue to call a 24 weeker a parasite.”
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November 16, 2010 at 12:28 pm
John, see my reply at 15. Interested in your response…
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November 16, 2010 at 1:31 pm
Feticide truly is a form of killing. So are matricide, infanticide, and suicide. You are there, Pat, where few of your cohorts are willing to travel. You’ve climbed the hill that Kate doesn’t yet see. Now for the mountain: is this a form if killing the human family should permit?
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November 16, 2010 at 3:49 pm
John,
Don’t bother to attempt to speak for me because, as you’ve said in the past, you’re not me. I still think fetuses are parasites. They live off the mother. That’s a parasite in my book. Not everyone is enamored with pregnancy and baby stuff.
Does abortion kill a living embryo/fetus? Yes. Does it matter? That’s an answer that only the woman should answer.
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November 16, 2010 at 4:02 pm
Just silly — only Jews can say if the German holocaust mattered? Only African-Americans can hate slavery? Until you begin talking sensibly, I’m going to have to speak for you.
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November 18, 2010 at 9:54 am
I think Kate hit it on the head. Obviously, at some point abortion kills a “fetus” or whatever you want to call it. And, to me, that is the decision of the woman. There are all kinds of “killing” that we sanction. To me, this is just one other example that I support.
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November 18, 2010 at 1:08 pm
Pat, please amplify those last two sentences.
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November 18, 2010 at 1:49 pm
We have the death penalty (which i oppose). We kill in wars. We have euthanasia. There are all kinds of “accepted” killing….To me, abortion is another one that I accept…
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November 18, 2010 at 3:19 pm
Thank you,
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February 11, 2011 at 2:19 pm
Dr. Tiller was a great man and compassionate provider of Abortion services.
Terrorists, proclaiming a Right to Life, assassinated him.
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February 11, 2011 at 8:46 am
John,
Do you support the Death penalty?
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February 11, 2011 at 9:25 am
I Am Pro Life and I do not support the Death Penalty.
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