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June 16, 2010 at 8:39 am
Good grief — that was my comment to #’s 14 and 15.
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June 17, 2010 at 4:14 pm
Elena, in response to your comments about guardians ad litem– my personal experience was limited to one divorce about 30 years ago; however, I have known about a dozen child protection workers and a few guardians ad litem over the years. Obviously, I was not privy to their work, but got some idea of what they were dealing with when the press would report on a case or two. I’ve dealt with a fair number of non-custodial fathers who felt the system was screwing them (I was the Programs chairman for their support group, The Men’s Room), so got many tales of bad ex-wives, almost all of which I had to take with a grain of salt.
I’ve never run across news stories about problems in the field, but that might be because in this state it’s a volunteer job, with reimbursement only for mileage and the occasional meal. Not the sort of thing to attract the criminally unqualified. And of course, there’s an intensive background check.
Sorry I can’t be more help.
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June 19, 2010 at 8:51 pm
I appreciate that,
I was specifically addressing the lawyers who are GALs.
SWs I trust.
Everyday, whether you are a man or women,
you witness counsel abusing children as the basic tenet of family law is broken,
that’s the irony- then they go out and do GAL work!
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June 20, 2010 at 4:25 am
Elena, do you have links to material which gives more detail about what you’re talking about? I’d appreciate it. Thanks.
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June 21, 2010 at 11:05 am
Please just go to a library with peer reviewed access to respected journals, and do any search on anything I opine on from a position of there being data to support my position.
Even regarding the above additionally talk to a Lawyer who is a GAL, see what they do as a GAL (often decent work) then sit in a courtroom and watch them behave with your own eyes over and over in a complete contradictory manner.
To understand my statements origins,
When I have an opinion on anything having to do with Medicine (not the Mental Sciences), Surgery, OBGyn, or Computing, you can be pretty sure it is backed by voluminous peer reviewed data of the best kind.
Things like my opines on the framers of the Federalist Papers, and their inclination towards self determination, and the lack of the government to intrude – that kind of stuff would be much more difficult by periodical, however, by Supreme Court ruling, it is quite clear that we are on that trajectory to me (a more subjective statement).
Some things that sound subjective,
Like Jefferson was sort of a slave owning hypocrite, adulterer, silk scarf buying Dandy, thought the reign of terror was not bad in the beginning, that plagiarized much of what he wrote or it was edited massively, or used the words of Madison, (and I do respect him in the context of his time as an incredible human being) is in the peer reviewed journals as well as many biographies including Pulitzer Prize Winners.
If I opine on Information theory, one might refer to Shannon’s immense work, or read Feynaman’s lectures on computation.
I hope that helps understand how I present information, and to what degree of confidence one can infer to it’s validity and accuracy across the spectrum.
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June 21, 2010 at 2:21 pm
Yeah, that clarifies everything!
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June 21, 2010 at 4:49 pm
Abortion,
as a right of self determination is a strong opinion I hold, the right of a women to choose abortion under circumstances most the country’s citizens shares to some degree, and a large part to large degree. I do understand that I may be left of center on my belief system in this regard, although fiscally conservative.
We all overlap, which is why I often refer to that we are Americans, and the largest unifying principle, is governance, rule of law, and (i think) as you suggest, use your vote to vocalize your opinion, in our great and malleable Republic.
It is nice to know there are people out there that understand the way we know things, by a method and marvel of science.
Much taught and learned through out the enlightment to the present day.
You may disagree, and I respect your opinions, as I have learned from listening to them. I have been persuaded by your facts.
We have witnessed the prolifers, do not do the same. Are not persuadable. Whoever CG is, seems to have a construct that I do not fully understand, but to allude to your
Sociologist Academia imagery, I sort of see the same thing. That is an accolade from me.
Thanks Pat, for yours.
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June 21, 2010 at 4:49 pm
Elena, you have great ideas, but you’ll get far more people to understand them if you broaden your writing style than you will by telling them to get access to a college library or break into the lawyers’ social circle. Either of those would be very difficult for me to do, which leaves me only you.
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June 21, 2010 at 5:55 pm
Thanks CG,
for me it is a bandwidth issue.
The Dunkles of the world are ignorants, with inability to make sense. I cannot control that. Fortunately they are relatively “fortunately the fringe” uncommon.
I can direct people to the places to support their own positions, I can briefly describe, and if I had to write a treatise on much, and point out a large bibliography.
As the aphorism goes . . .
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However constraints of time only allow so much.
The opportunity cost of time disallows me to spend much with the prolifers who prove themselves daily ignorant to facts, and not open to fact, the basic principle of science.
Your continued contributions are appreciated, add flavor to the blog, as it grows daily to become one of the most popular (If not by now) in America on this most important of topics.
That time is better spent, actually achieving goals. For me at least, everyone is different. That is a good thing.
Regards
Elena
Not to be intrusive as many of us like our privacy, and you may have said already but I am intrigued as to your areas of expertise . . .
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June 21, 2010 at 6:41 pm
Good luck, Charles.
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June 21, 2010 at 6:52 pm
Okay, you’ve flattered me enough to pick my pocket: One of 11 kids, raised by parents who themselves were raised under the principles of poisonous pedagogy– control is absolutely essential, so lying, manipulating, and aggressing are all valid means of parenting. Went to a $800 a year college, majored in bus. admin. & philosophy. Peace Corps, US Navy amphibious forces in the Vietnam era (East Coast); married, one kid; Red Cross programs director, 5 years. Divorced, moved to Vermont with 5-year-old. single parented for 13 years. (Women flocked to me as soon as he graduated high school, not before. New England women are naturally smarter.) Ran a gas statioin, learned how to fix cars, went from that to sorting bottles and cans on a B.A.degree for $87 a week. Friends took pity on me and told me there were jobs that paid more– got one that paid $0.75 an hour more. Visited families with children to link them to community resources. Became appalled at seeing so many going through what I went through and a lot worse. Learned about all those things I wrote about in my comparison of the Abortion Store and the Baby Store on the aborticentrism blog. Developed materials for the parents; developed a tool that would point toward obstacles in home visit communication (e.g., if Dad is a blowhard, meh; if Dad is a blowhard and wife is mousy, maybe abuse is an obstacle to getting the kids connected with a dentist. Here’s how you work around it. Here’s what else to look for). When the first so-called “pro-lifer’ came to town to deliver a speech about post-abortion syndrome, I asked if any of those suffering women had had a make-up baby. That was the top of the slippery slope which led to RESPONSIBLE Right to life some six years later. And I stopped the burgeoning local protest movement dead in its tracks in 1995. I read a lot and keep coming across more info. The blog is actually the highlights of the ms, “The Closer it Gets, the Less Sacred It Becomes: ‘Pro-Life’ and the Cancer of Aborticenrtism,” a dense and turgid 300 pages that will never see the light in an editor’s eyes. The blog sure isn’t keeping anybody awake out there on the Internet tubes!
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June 21, 2010 at 10:16 pm
That is quite a journey,
yet encapsulated, in a comment.
I am intrigued and am very careful about what I read as there is only so much time.
I will read some of your material,
as well ask a few others.
If there is a consensus, you can be certain it will have many eyes upon it if that is what you desire.
Thank you for your story, I still find it hard to beleive you did not have social work type experience or mental science formal education,
you know a lot.
I have to place that still in the context that I do not have a comprehensive understanding, but I’ll read, learn, and perhaps be persuaded. Unlike an antiabortion person.
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June 21, 2010 at 10:17 pm
Wow, just noticed that was the 200th comment on that one post!
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June 22, 2010 at 3:52 am
How come it’s only the twelfth on my screen????? There’s no back or forward button on this page.
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June 22, 2010 at 10:03 am
Yeah, it says 13 on mine….
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June 22, 2010 at 10:09 am
Re CG’s resume…..Im impressed that you ran a gas station!!!
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June 22, 2010 at 11:19 am
And I was charging one-third the hourly rate all the other stations were. I operated by the principle of doing unto other as you would have them do unto you, and all I could afford was that rate if I’d had to pay someone else to fix my car. People got incredible deals.
If I’d had any self-esteem, I would have realized my time and expertise was worth as much as anybody else’s. But I didn’t have one of those childhoods that so-called “pro-lifers” like to fantasize for their “unborn innocents.”
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June 22, 2010 at 5:14 pm
Since there are are so many comments the screen breaks down to pages of comments of maybe 20 per page.
So you have to hit the earlier comment button, to see them earlier in the thread.
Otherwise,
Just the comments could take a minute to load on a slower computer.
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June 22, 2010 at 5:45 pm
Hey, thanks, Elena!
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June 23, 2010 at 11:17 am
Dunkle,
did you ever answer the third question about Gestational Trophoblastic Neoplasms?
as it was simplified at your request multiple times.
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The three questions dove tail together, that’s why I put them together for you.
Answer #2 then only.
– Is a partial molar pregnancy a baby? Can it be aborted?
Come on educate us.
You are smart, you have been doing this for years.
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If you did where is the answer . . . where
Please be intelligent and not dodge, evade, it is obvious to all when you do this,
Although providing comedy for the site and entertainment, it is better to address facts,
Tx
Elena
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June 23, 2010 at 3:32 pm
Elena: “I have to be honest with all of you – i am not even reading this stuff anymore. What is this, a friggin science test? I know, Elena, that you are really trying to pin down John and, as an added benefit, embarrass him but aren’t there more interesting things to talk about beside molar pregnancies, whatever the hell they are?”
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