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June 25, 2010 at 7:22 pm
John,
I know you expressed an inability to answer more than one simple idea at a time so just skip to the same bottom question that you evaded again,
do not be a weak Man, be a real man.
If you cannot read what is in between . . .
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Answer a question. It is like torture conversing with you.
You are funny in several ways.
1) I do not know if you watched SNL, but I barely remember, I was much younger, but there was a character named Pat, and one could not tell their gender.
I do not know Pat except from their writings and yours frankly. But I find that irony from SNL ( I suspect not intended sort of humorous in your question – one I cannot answer).
2) I still do not get what you are doing outside this women’s house. Do you camp there? I have no idea if it has a long driveway.
3) Frankly, If I was a young women with some guy saying the things you say, and I had a child, or was alone, I would respond in a fashion, that was not favorable to you. I have no details, so I want make statements based with lack of fact as I see you do in almost every comment.
If I was her significant other, you would have some serious, very serious problems, but I do want to know what you are talking about, so that is just opinion without much fact behind it.
4) Be cool Man, what the heck are you doing to that young lady. What does she do?
It seemed you alluded that she ripped limbs off people’s bodies?
Does she? I think you should call the police then.
That sounds bizarre, what are you talking about? Why stand outside her house?
Are you bizarre looking and scary? Do you make threats?
5) I still cannot understand you, as apparently most people on this site that I read.
6) Pat seems kindly to you, I do not know why, perhaps he/she is very neutral or objective, i don’t know.
7) You talk about jewish people – again I do not know that much – but they did suffer immensely during the holocaust – how do compare that horror to your stalking? At least thats what it sounds like to me . . . I could be wrong, just opinion. But in that metaphor you are on the wrong side of the holocaust, you are the terrorist.
Please do not take these numbers a “peppering” – sorry your vocabulary is better than mine – of questions. Same question. I may start using that phrase,
thank you, I will footnote you, it sounds like a nice way of expressing that thought.
I am admittedly not the smartest guy around, you sound intelligent, and
You sound like a misogynist, violent, and a potential terrorist. Or maybe an old man with nothing better to do than mouth off about things you know nothing about. I cannot tell. Please educate and stop evading the simple questions. It is obvious to anyone that reads you.
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ONE QUESTION STILL, that you do NOT ANSWER . . .
Why are you harassing this young women.
The more you do not answer the question, the creepier you sound to me, seriously, no offense, perhaps you just cannot answer a questions.
So,
What are you doing at a young ladie’s house?
I am curious what you do there. I never heard of such a strange thing ( maybe I am a dummy . . ?)
What Gentleman would behave like that?
The best regards, despite a difference of opinion,
Kent
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June 27, 2010 at 4:13 am
Kent, let me mediate here and answer the questions he will not:
1. His gender quest about Pat is separate from his self-proclaimed “pro-life” issues. He is of an era in which men were accorded one level of address and women another. If he were certain that Pat were one or another, he would address her differently. He feels uncomfortable in addressing her without this knowledge.
2. He stalks the woman to the degree that he does because he can (it’s not an inconvenience to his other needs, she doesn’t call the cops, he’s not harassed by a crowd of “pro-choicers” trying to dissuade him) and because he has in his mind linked harassing her to his larger, allegorical, struggle against the oblivion facing him in his own death. He also does it because it takes very little emotional energy and can be undertaken or stopped with no impact on his other priorities. In other words, he exercises full control over the extent to which he will commit to it at any given moment.
3. He relishes the attention he gets from you, as it is only verbiage and cannot dissuade him from his course. He’s very much like a child who acts up in a classroom knowing the teacher is powerless to discpiline him. You, on the other hand, can learn how to stop him, but you’re not going to learn how in this venue.
4. He’s not going to stop stalking her until he decides the reward isn’t worth it and moves on to something more rewarding. Since the reward is in his head, it’s totally arbitrary as to when he might stop.
5. You don’t understand him because you don’t understand his motivation. If you considered the so-called “pro-life” movement as a sport you were interested in, you’d take the time to learn its rules. You, like most people, take it at face value– and are mystified and flummoxed by what he says. Not surprising.
6. I answered #6 in #1.
7. His Jewishness is also separate from his cause, but he uses it as an ancillary tool where it suits. As for his attitude toward pregnant women, he is, as Earl Shorris put it, a “Jew without mercy,” one who has strayed so far from his cultural home that he feels no need to defend her right to be free from oppression.
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June 25, 2010 at 7:24 pm
Sorry John,
I just noticed in your comment,
did you say I was a Killer’s helper?
Am I misunderstanding?
What am I doing if I read your comment accurately.
I am talking to understand you. I feel more like a helper of an insane old man, you will not help a child, but will stalk a young lady.
What are you talking about?
It is bizarre . . .
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June 26, 2010 at 6:38 pm
Kent, can’t you reduce all this to something understandable?
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June 27, 2010 at 1:05 am
John
I do not k ow if you are real.
This is a serious topic. No, reducible to one question.
But tha does not
Matter you never answer anyway.
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Again,
It is never OK to threaten, harm, stalk, or harass a women.
Why don’t you stop?
One question – are you overwhelmed by one question asked over and over? Just answer, come on, your evasion makes you irrelevant. Let’s get some real prolifers that can speak to their cause!
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June 27, 2010 at 4:15 am
Kent the Incoherent Killers’ Helper wants this prolifer to shut up, and he wants other pro-lifers to listen to what he advises!
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June 27, 2010 at 8:00 am
Can someone translate for John, seriously?
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June 25, 2010 at 7:25 pm
Kent is quite accurate, Dunkle, just answer, to quote you,
“The friggin” question . . .
You make me laugh too,
you sound so silly, except that you sound like a dangerous person . . .
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June 25, 2010 at 7:28 pm
Well! Has this site turned into Dunkle.com?
He’s done a great job of trolling here– turning the discourse away from the topic, toward himself, courtesy of “pro-choicers” who let intemperance carry them away. My advice to all who have enabled him: get your temper and your impulses under control by learning about the aborticentrism that drives him. Once you understand that, you will understand the neuroticism behind post #19, in which he paints himself as a valiant hero struggling as best he can against the evil of Death, and you just might come up with better ways to deal with so-called “pro-lifers.”
As long as you let so-called “pro-lifers” set the terms of the argument, you will lose. It’s time to seize the high ground and argue from their aborticentrism.
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June 26, 2010 at 8:37 am
I dont have the time, CG, to learn about your aborticentrism stuff. I just have time, and enjoy, responding to John and anyone else. Indeed, I wish John would get more pro-lifers on this site!
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June 26, 2010 at 1:47 pm
Isaiah Berlin: “The fox knows many little things; the hedgehog knows one big thing.”
the more so-called “pro-lifers” you get on this site, the happier you might be with the volume, but the more smoke will be generated to obscure the dysfunctional twelve-step program they live by.
If you don’t want to learn about it, how are you going to understand the so-called “pro-life” movement? Not that I’m losing any sleep over that question.
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June 26, 2010 at 4:33 pm
Why do I need to understand them? I’m not looking to cure them or beat them. I just like to debate. I also like challenging my pro-choice colleagues who run away from the issue.
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June 26, 2010 at 4:49 pm
Challenge away,
no one running here.
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June 26, 2010 at 5:13 pm
Not even those like Elena, who should.
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June 27, 2010 at 1:15 am
Pat
There John goes again, what is he talking about to Elena? He asks for understandable questions then makes statement that I have no idea what he is saying.
Why should Elena ( whoever she is) be running away from John?
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June 27, 2010 at 9:09 am
Elena,
I am Pro-life and quite proud of that.
I disagree with you on all your major notions of abortion.
I do apologize as a Christian, to you though,
John Dunkle has no right to threaten you or Stalk that young lady Jennifer he mentioned.
As. Christian, we try to emulate the Beauty in Jesus as an example of kind dignity.
No decent human being who believed in Jesus would ever behave like John does, as that would define them as a non believer.
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June 26, 2010 at 10:48 am
I think the other pro-lifers realize that only one voice is needed to show that killing young folks must and will again be made, along with all other abominations, illegal. Even if that voice comes from dope like me because it’s the Truth, and not the speaker, that will overcome. (Moreover, as I’ve learned at the mills, one voice convinces, two voices confuse.)
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June 26, 2010 at 4:53 pm
Your one voice is an absurdity of confusion.
As far as I see, you STILL do not answer a question.
I can only laugh!
What is the value of a person that cannot answer a simple question, but fights so hard for that same cause that they are so uneducated in?
I wish I had the word for it, perhaps your wit will provide [doubtful],
Although better to just answer some questions.
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Why are you harassing a young women?
Is there too much dissonance to answer?
I think so . . .
John . . .?
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June 26, 2010 at 5:12 pm
Will you please learn how to write privately before you attempt it publicly over, and over, and over, and over…
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June 27, 2010 at 1:21 am
What are you talking about?
Her question as well as the others are straightforward .
You are the communication problem.
The prolifers cannot even understand you.
I doubt anyone will converse with you if you do not engage in productive conversation.
Be a man. Have the conviction to answer a simple question! You are exhausting – why make yourself irrelevant?
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June 27, 2010 at 4:03 am
you too
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June 27, 2010 at 7:47 am
You are such a joke,
That is literally a playground answer!
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June 27, 2010 at 9:41 am
John
You are very wrong,
Our entire Church group reads this blog.
You speak for none of us.
You are not one voice of pro life.
Abortion is always wrong.
And you are too.
You harm our hard work everyday. Please stop your poor behavior and do as our mighty Lord has Given us a calling.
You are wrong constantly, when you answer questions.
It is a terrible burden to have to agree with a pro abortionist.
The good Lord has spoken to us.
I do not know a single prolifer that has given you their proxy.
Stop stalking that Jennifer lady.
Jesus would not do that.
I do not know what she does but I do not believe she is ripping people’s limbs off. You lose all our hard earned credibility, when you do that.
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June 27, 2010 at 3:13 pm
My worst fear has materialized: another pro-life voice, Sally’s, has entered the fray. All is lost.
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June 26, 2010 at 1:49 pm
They are not young folks by any means, Mr. Dunkle. They are humanoid life forms in need of care which you cannot and will not provide.
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June 26, 2010 at 6:40 pm
Humanoid life forms, untermenschlichs, niggers — you’re not really this dense, are you, Charles?
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June 26, 2010 at 7:12 pm
It is by caring for fetuses after they are born that we make them human. So-called “pro-lifers” do not as a rule care for fetuses beyond the delivery room, the earliest point at which they could actually help post-fetal life become real human beings.
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June 29, 2010 at 4:15 am
I think God makes them human, Charles; you think You do.
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June 29, 2010 at 5:35 am
Well, think again, John: feral children, who have none of the nurturing other children get, are the ones indeed most directly made human by God– and He does a crappy job, period.
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June 29, 2010 at 4:27 pm
“humanoids” “feral children” = a deeply damaged adult
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June 26, 2010 at 4:34 pm
I”m curious, John. Are you doing anything to reduce the need for abortion?
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June 26, 2010 at 4:54 pm
He does nothing except harass and promote violence from what I have read.
If he was serious he would not have wasted his life doing nothing, he would have gone somewhere and saved lives,
Instead he harmed people, in the opinion developed from his own words.
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June 26, 2010 at 5:08 pm
You mean like making the world a better place for everybody? Sure, I guess so…
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June 27, 2010 at 9:53 am
No, seriously, John. You’re against abortion, that is cool. But I dont know what you are doing that will actually prevent abortions. Standing outside of clinics or someone’s home does not reduce the number of abortions. And I believe you know that. So, what exactly do you expect to accomplish by your protests?
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June 27, 2010 at 3:16 pm
Neither you nor I know if my actions reduce the number of abortions. Are you asking me to leave the field of combat and simply pay, pray , and obey?
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June 27, 2010 at 4:16 pm
John, standing in front of someone’s house does not stop abortion. If you have any evidence to the contrary, I’d be happy to look at it. I just have to believe that you enjoy “terrorizing” someone, making them uncomfortable but, deep in your heart, you know you ain’t accomplishing anything. Why not take that time and go work at the local homeless shelter?
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June 27, 2010 at 6:08 pm
I might if they were torturing to death the homeless. Are they?
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June 27, 2010 at 7:50 pm
I don’t know you peeps, but Pat makes sense, work at a homeless shelter, do some good,
I try as a Catholic. I am imperfect, but I do not cause harm!
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June 27, 2010 at 7:48 pm
You do not believe in prayer?
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June 28, 2010 at 4:26 am
No, Irene, I do believe in prayer. Prayer has to be the ultimate weapon in this war. But do you think Jesus himself is going to reappear to answer those prayers? Of course not; he will raise a few of us to answer them, a few of us who, unlike me, have the courage — people like Paul Hill, Jim Kopp, Shelley Shannon, Michael Griffin. We others are called to do what we can, and if saying a rosary at home by yourself for the cause is what you can do, God bless you.
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June 28, 2010 at 10:36 am
John, do you pray for someone to kill Jen Boulanger?
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June 28, 2010 at 2:59 pm
Pat,
John is on the field of combat, as any warrier would be.
Talking to him produces nothing, he wants combat, glorifies terrorrists as Martyrs,
John to say that in this day and age really reveals how scary, dangerous and violent you are, any prudent person can tell.
Screaming, obstructing, yelling, abating terrorists, terrorizing people, emotional harming people . . .
John,
Do you really believe in Jesus? Jesus of the New Testament?
Are you living by gospels that have been suppressed? That would help understand you better.
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June 28, 2010 at 5:11 pm
Jesus used force.
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June 26, 2010 at 7:21 pm
Pat, regarding your response in #24: Problems are to be solved, not debated endlessly. You can remain in the abortion debate equivalent of the Age of Scholasticism (where they debated how many angels could dance on the head of a pin), or you could direct your efforts toward opening its Age of Enlightenment.
It’s a matter as Francis Bacon said in the preface to his encyclopedia of all knowledge, not to compress the world (of knowledge of so-called “pro-life” adherents) so that it will fit the mind, but to broaden the mind to encompass the whole world (their world of fear and desperation).
To assume that “pro-choicers” are in the ascendancy is to relish the fleeting moment. All it would take to make you frantic again would be veto-proof Republican majorities at the next election. It’s disappointing that you don’t take a larger view.
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June 27, 2010 at 9:55 am
I took the larger view for many years, Charles, as a lobbyist for pro-choice causes. I guess now I just enjoy sitting in my ivory tower posing questions, trying to educate people on how clinics are run, why women get abortions, etc. That’s what my blog is all about. I’ve put in my time in electoral politics.
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June 28, 2010 at 6:37 am
It’s the inability to move beyond electoral politics and into the realm of psychotherapy that has prevented progress in the fight against so-called “pro-lifers,” Pat.
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June 28, 2010 at 3:05 pm
I think Pat is a little eclectic on that.
Didn’t Pat write some posts on destigmatizing words and and linguistics and common graound in definitions.
I am no scholar,
But both of you seem pretty darn smart and I do not understand it all,
But to my humble opinion it seems Pat has some incredible diversity.
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June 27, 2010 at 4:30 am
OK, I’ve reread the last forty or so entries on this formerly powerful blog to see what went wrong. Here’s what I discovered: Kent, Elena, et al., (and even you, Pat) went ballistic after they found out I hold prayer vigils outside the homes of people involved in by far the most extensive killing industry the world has ever experienced. They are incensed especially over the fact that one of those homes belongs to a young woman, Jennifer Boulanger, who is deeply involved in that industry. Among their excoriations they keep shouting why, why, and this even after I told them why as best I could (#19 above). I don’t see much hope for the blog’s recovery, but, anyway, why don’t chall stop talking and do something. At least I go to Jennifer’s home on Main Street in Quakertown, PA, from 11:30 a.m. till noon on the third Sunday of every month. Why don’t you meet me there as a counter?
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June 27, 2010 at 7:58 am
What?
Can someone translate John.
As a counter to what?
I wouldn’t know whether to bring tissues to wipe my eyes as I laughed at you, or wear a bullet proof vest.
You sound like someone you is dangerous, as you have already in your own words supported violence. You have revealed the precident in your own words of your long career of violence.
And why the third Sunday of every month, saving babies should require a little more
Time than that.
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June 28, 2010 at 4:30 am
Kent, this is the fourteenth time you’ve shouted “somebody translate” after I’ve spoken, and then you proceed to reveal that you understand exactly what I’ve said. Gets old.
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June 28, 2010 at 3:07 pm
Kent
How did you shout?
Is their a conferencing part of this blog, I would love to hear the audio of you guys.
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June 27, 2010 at 8:16 am
Frankly,
The Catholics had the most extensive killing industry in the history of the world.
Between Inquisitions,
Plague source killing,
Pagan burnings,
Witch Burnings,
Crusader Support,
Killing Doctors,
Signing treaties with Hitler,
Killing people with Heliocentric beleif systems for hundreds of years (oops , the Earth does revolve around the sun! The last Pope even apologized for that one.
The list goes on and on.
We should all fly to Rome and hassle the Pope
For mounting the most incredible demonic institution of coordinated killing and genocide.
Nothing compares. The Catholics have killed magnitudes beyond Stalin or Hitler.
Abortion if it were an industry of killing would not come close in numbers to the Catholics.
In their hey day they performed more infanticide than the total number of abortions ever done.
If you want to stop a killing institution, the Catholic Industry.
That’s a good place to start.
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June 27, 2010 at 3:20 pm
Pat, why is it if you tap into so many on your side of this war, you find a deep and repugnant anti-Catholicism?
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June 27, 2010 at 4:18 pm
Not sure. I’m a former Catholic myself. Maybe it’s because it seems like the Catholic Church is the one seeking to impose their views on us.
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June 27, 2010 at 6:10 pm
Oh, come one, Pat. Everyone alive tries to impose her views on others. That’s life. To accuse Catholics of that is anti-Catholicism.
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June 27, 2010 at 7:29 pm
John,
Come on,
be real man . . .
Catholics happen to be among the worst in history, – no offense if you are one – Go For It! You have quite a heritage to live up to!
Hey, a lot of pro choice people are Catholics – I do not know how they reconcile that one, but they do somehow . . .
You did not do that, do not need to feel guilty or ashamed of that gruesome, bloody, barbaric, murderous, incestuous, hypocritical, heritage from I infer you and I descend (glad to hear otherwise). Read Man, read!
You suffer from paucity of fact!
I did not do that.
There are a billion Catholics, 12 Million Jews.
A billion.2 Muslims, 600 Million Buddhists, Near a Billion Hindus, etc.,
Christians are a minority, a MINORITY!, on this planet.
Jesus was Jewish! He never heard the word Christian, he probably would have been embarrassed by that.
Catholics, their legacy – they slaughtered most of South American indigenous Meso American culture,
First to use bio terrorism (smallpox!) read GSS.
They destroyed Colonial Africa, the Middle East, many east Asian countries as well.
The only thing left is the poles! I mean North and south, they did screw over the polish people as well though.
Rock and Roll Catholics good job, you f’d up the entire world!!
Maybe not Australia or Papau New Guinea, at least Catholics did not destroy that.
Give them credit, Catholics were inventive in their terrorism, and deceit, and lust for gold (Gold is so wonderful isn’t it?) taught the modern Muslim extremists, tiny subset of Muslims.
We are not responsible for the actions of our Catholic heinous ancestors far removed, but we can learn from our history.
Denying is foolish as you just make the same mistakes.
Wallace, McCarthy, McCready, etc., all the great bigots & racists (along with the baptists and evangelicals!). . .
etc,.
They just historically were horrible people.
They can move forward as P JP II tried,
but they did what they did.
Sign a treaty with Hitler? Holy bad treaty idea Batman! Sign a treaty with the symbol of greatest evil in modern time!
You gonna defend that one? I would love to hear that defense. Only a moron would try.
Killed more than Stalin, among the worst dictators of all time,
how would you explain that away?
Genghis Khan, Attila the Hun, are like little kids compared to the Catholic torture chamber of horrors!
You want to look up to that record of malevolence, they are utterly horrifying! Do you think God is Catholic?
That would be funny.
Catholics have the beautiful virtues as well, forgiveness No joke, I admire immensely, I do not have it, as well as I would like, but I try.
P JPII went and kissed the hand of the guy that tried to shoot him, would you do that?
I wouldn’t, but I respect that amazing degree of forgiveness.
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Do you forgive?
Or do you harass?
I guess the latter.
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They killed more people than any institution known to civilization. Genocide to the Muslims, pagans, turks, babylonians, jews, etc., etc., etc.
Protestants(!), anything not Catholic.
How could one begin to defend the history?
It is what it is!
So Catholics, move forward, no more genocide, you have been pretty good these past few years, keep it up!!!
Even though most of you do not follow your infallible Pope, so I do not even know why you are Catholics!
They live in the 16th century still, believe the earth is 6,000 years old!
Bone Brains!
Anyone with a brain has got to laugh,
agree?
Don’t you laugh at that dude that stalks and hangs out at a young woman’s house, intimidating her. That guy is nutty!
What a loser, he is a well defined problem. I think that is what the recent post is about!
I can only grimace at the magnitude of human stupidity as perfected by such an individual!
What a nut! I my opinion,
We should talk to him, get him to stop his stalking, harassment and evil behavior.
Prying on a young women, When I read that I was livid, what a peace of garbage that guy is.
We Catholics should work together to convince these boneheads of the beautiful Catholic virtue of forgiveness!
Don’t you agree?
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June 28, 2010 at 4:35 am
Holy moly another one! Maybe it’s just a name change?
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June 28, 2010 at 10:25 am
“Dont you agree” to what? You made nine thousand statements, Irene. It’s a little hard to respond to everything you wrote!
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June 28, 2010 at 3:17 pm
Pat,
It is a bit awkward for me, so beg my pardon as deplore many of your comments.
But when someone is right they are right.
Not spoken well.
Don’t you and John ( or Mr.CG) agree with the Catholic Virtue of forgiveness as best as we can work toward that goal?
Be you Catholic or not?
I believe it only makes the world better.
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June 27, 2010 at 7:33 pm
There are no former Catholics, Pat. Baptism is permanent. You’re probably a Catholic who’s lost the Faith.
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June 27, 2010 at 7:47 pm
UNTRUE
read your Cannons, and sacrament law.
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June 28, 2010 at 6:40 am
The term you’re looking for is “recovering Catholic,” John. We didn’t lose the Faith; we’re just recovering from it…
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June 28, 2010 at 10:23 am
Agreed. Left the church when i was about 14, but did get baptized and confirmed! Then I lost my way :)…..
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June 27, 2010 at 7:51 pm
Kent is so right,
we Catholics have been the best murderers in all history, lets be better this next few thousand years!!!
Agree?
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June 27, 2010 at 9:59 am
I haven’t gone “ballistic”, John, about your being at Jens house. Indeed, I support your right to do it. I am just trying to understand why you do it. I just posted a reply up top where I ask what you think you are accomplishing. That’s what I’m trying to figure out. As I’ve said before, if your tactics succeeded and Jen quit tomorrow, they would hire a new administrator and the “killing” would continue, right?
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June 27, 2010 at 11:13 am
Pat, it’s not about reducing abortions. If it were, he’d be strongly pro-contraception and sex education. It’s about being a hero and transcending Death.
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June 27, 2010 at 3:24 pm
That doesn’t quite jibe with most of those on your side say. They understand that any baby killer or active killer’s helper who quits is a terrible loss. Why do you downplay that?
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June 27, 2010 at 4:20 pm
It all depends. The killing of George Tiller was a great loss, in terms of the man and the work he did. But the bottom line is that another doctor has come foward to perform those later abortions. When Dr Gunn was killed, another doctor replaced him, etc., etc. But, sure, there’s a “loss” to some extent. I’m just saying that you’re not accomplishing anything – and I think you know it…
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June 27, 2010 at 6:13 pm
And I think you’re wrong. No has replaced Tiller the Killer. Hundreds are alive today because he’s gone, and thousands will be. One killer, I even forget his name, mumbled something about continuing with the killing, but I’ll bet by now he’s senile.
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June 28, 2010 at 10:23 am
Sorry John, but you are wrong. Doctor Lee Carhart is replacing George Tiller and is seeing patients from all over the world now. He has been very open about it. There are two other doctors, who i will not name, who are taking George’s patients. You know I wouldn’t lie to you, have no reason to lie.
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June 28, 2010 at 3:27 pm
John,
You are killing me and our cause.
When you and your compatriotes, assisnated that poor Dr. Tiller,
In CHURCH!
You created over ten more doctors that are now doing the same thing that only one was doing before!
They advertise!
Your assisnation of Dr.Tiller created the problem tenfold, and probably even worse!
Please, I do not like agreeing with Pat.
But when somewhen is right they are right!
Pat is right and you are wrong!
You are single handily killing our cause to rid abortion, I do not doubt your good intention in your violence, but your violence is wrong,
And I do not want to hear “An eye for an eye” quote.
Jesus was more the Turn his cheek guy.
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June 27, 2010 at 7:30 pm
So true!!!!!
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June 27, 2010 at 7:59 pm
I mean Pat, so true,
the more doctors murdered by prolife catholics the more the rest of reasonable society decides to battle the terrorism and train more Doctors.
The end reuslt being more providers!
A good thing, but not what the terrorist pro lifers want.
The pro life murderers actually harm their own cause! Genius!
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June 28, 2010 at 6:10 am
“I mean Pat, so true…” Dang, Irene, you had me fooled there for a moment!
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June 28, 2010 at 3:30 pm
Sorry,
Not so great on computery things, I am learning.
Sometimes I write something and it ends up in a spot not intended!
I was besides myself!
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June 27, 2010 at 4:34 am
And Charles, if you want to see someone today counting how many angels can dance on the head of a pin, read Elena’s molar pregnancy tripe.
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June 27, 2010 at 7:31 pm
John,
you never answered her simple Partial Molar pregnancy question.
Dude man, why be such a loser?
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June 27, 2010 at 7:35 pm
“Dude”! Isn’t that 70’s talk?
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June 27, 2010 at 7:46 pm
Perhaps, so?
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June 27, 2010 at 7:46 pm
You talk like a racist bigot of the 1860s, go for it!
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June 27, 2010 at 8:17 pm
You bigot moron!
I can smell your racist bigoted stank from here, I do not even know where you are.
I just noticed you are the stalker?
Aren’t you?
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June 27, 2010 at 8:19 pm
What a joke of a human being, I am so thankful that there are so few of you on earth and you are usually old, and will die of heart disease or cancer, along with your stupid though processes!
Your legacy of a lifetime of work will mean ZERO!
You will rot in the ground, and disappear, or end up in hell with ll your bigot friends!
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June 28, 2010 at 4:39 am
holy moly
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June 28, 2010 at 10:21 am
Have to agree with John below. Holy moly. What’s up with you, Irene? Lighten up
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June 28, 2010 at 3:35 pm
Elenas comments were perfect!
John, I begin to doubt your pro life conviction.
I went and read about it.
There can be a baby in this partial mole thing .
Weird, and why do they call it a mole?
Most importantly, you still cannot kill the baby,
Well I mean they do, but they should not murder the baby,
You agree with me?
I am feeling like the lone real pro lifer here . . .
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June 27, 2010 at 8:26 am
The only thing I can say that I know to be true,
Is that this blog will always be more relevant than any John Dunkle.
John, I do offer an apology, I was confused, I thought it was Elena you were threatening and stalking her house.
Who are you Stalking?
I still dont know.
The thread is confusingly long.
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June 27, 2010 at 3:28 pm
Gee, Kent, you sound almost normal here! I go the home of the woman who is part owner and manager of the largest killing mill in Allentown, Pennsylvania, Jen Boulanger. I also go to the homes of three killers. I invite you to go along to counter my message
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June 27, 2010 at 8:01 pm
Who are the other Killers you menace?
Not the band I hope, they are really good, have you heard them?
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June 28, 2010 at 4:50 am
I don’t know what your second paragraph means, Irene, but for your first paragraph: Jen’s not a killer. She aids and abets them. In addition to visiting her home between 11:30 and noon on the third Sunday of every month, I go the homes of these killers — John Roizin, 227 E. Lafayette St., Easton, between 12:30 and 1; and on the fourth Sunday Sondra Dantzic, 508 Christopher lLane, Quakertown between 11:30 and noon, and Charles Benjamin, 310 Whitemarsh Valley Rd., Fort Washington, from 12:30 and 1. After that on the fourth Sunday I go to Einstein Hospital in Philadelphia till about 2:30. Why don’t some of you killers’ helpers confront me at one of those places, or are you all talk.
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June 28, 2010 at 5:11 am
Oh, and I go to these death camps: Tuesday mornings from 7:30 on, Planned Parenthood in Reading and Saturday mornings from 8 on, The Allentown Women’s Center.
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June 28, 2010 at 10:19 am
Why would we want to come out there and “confront” you, John? No personal offense, but I cannot think of anything more boring than watching you or anyone else stand in front of someone’s home with some sign (I assume you have a sign, right?). Furthermore, I think Charles would agree that our coming out there would only give you the attention you crave.
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June 28, 2010 at 5:24 pm
Dang! You’re partially right, as often. In front of Jen’s, I hold a 3′ by 4′ picture of the head of a baby who’s been pulled apart. Below, it says Abortion Kills Children. In front the killers’ homes, my sign says A Killer Lives Here.
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June 28, 2010 at 3:44 pm
I think Irene ( a little nutty frankly, meant the rock band
The Killers
Who knows?
Any way,
You are the field of battle,
If I confront you, as you have challenged me to this violent endeavor what is your weapon of choice?
Clearly not articulation or persuasive argument as you are a failure at that!
I don’t want to be ambushed so let’s do it like gentlemen?
Shall we duel?
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June 29, 2010 at 9:13 am
Wow, you guys are so macho!
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June 29, 2010 at 10:47 am
Geeze, Pat, do you really think Kent is challenging me physically? Me, the coward? Now I’m almost afraid to make my usual rounds!
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June 27, 2010 at 9:39 am
Sally Willsmen (of post #24); You are “pro-life.” Is that in sentiment or in practice? And if in practice, would you mind describing just how much you do for the children you so far have wanted to be born? And how many of them are there?
For all those who would want to confront John Dunkle at a private citizen’s house– if you do it, you’ll only be enabling him in his quest to become a hero.
Pat– you finally got the traffic! Now, go for the advertising rates….
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June 27, 2010 at 10:01 am
CG, what do you mean about the traffic and advertising rates?
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June 27, 2010 at 11:13 am
see below, Pat.
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June 27, 2010 at 10:39 am
Hello CG,
I am happy to speak to your questions.
If it is OK
I’ll go to the bottom of the page.
This long nested threads thing (my son just told me why i was confused) get me a little confused at times.
Since I am here for this comment, I do not understand what you mean by trafficking? What is pat trafficking? It reads like a drug deal?
Trafficking an opinion? A desire to moderate? I think said was Pat in politics (We won’t hold that against Pat?). Sounds like with that background this may be enjoyable.
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June 27, 2010 at 12:55 pm
I don’t see advertising . . .?
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June 27, 2010 at 2:43 pm
Of course you don’t! It’s one of the failings of liberals that they count on the milk of human kindness to support them, when what they need is cash. Obviously whoever set up this site knows as much about commercializing it as I do. Which is why you don’t see ads. If you want to help them out, ask a so-called “pro-life” demonstrator how many foster children he/she is caring for…
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June 27, 2010 at 8:04 pm
Confused, Liberals?
Are all Liberals the same?
Dichotomous?
Liberals / Conservatives, with not overlapping beliefs?
People that believe in Liberty?
I thought that a virtue?
Why so polarized? You sound so much more intelligent than that, forgive if I read wrong . .
I am a libertarian, I love my sweet cash!
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June 27, 2010 at 4:21 pm
They dont have any. I think Charles is suggesting that because we have a lot of traffic on this site, we could sell advertising space…
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June 27, 2010 at 8:07 pm
Not everything has to be monetized!
It is not an anti free enterprise, it is not Ayn Rand, it is not that hard frankly.
It actually is gratifying, and if it is, why infringe upon that most essential tenet of our culture?
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June 27, 2010 at 11:09 am
Mrs. Willsmen, in the world of blogging, traffic determines what you can charge advertisers for advertising on your site. Pat at one time said that 7,100 people a day visited the site, but advertisers look to the number who actually engage, and Pat has finally gotten some engagement here. So I advised her that since traffic is up, she should start selling ad space (just a joke).
If you’re upset by John Dunkle representing the so-called “pro-life” movement, you are not aware of the nature of the company you keep.
The movement is at heart a sort of dysfunctional twelve-step program for people who are unable to develop a coping mechanism for the fact of their own mortality. Not religious enough to accept the teachings of their faith, not emotionally strong enough to accept death’s inevitability, too fragile to undergo therapy in order to face it, they engage in a struggle against it.
It is an allegorical struggle in which the fetus represents themselves, abortion represents Death, and they represent God. If they can “save” an “unborn human,” they provide tangible proof to themselves that their life is one that is powerful and significant enough to transcend Death (most people rely on religious revelation for that, but not them).
They also seek the status of heroes, since heroes live forever in the memory of mankind (Jesus, Napoleon, Florence Nightingale, etc.).
That it is a dysfunctional movement is proven by the little regard they pay to the needs of born humans. You can test your level of commitment against theirs by considering whether you have, as I did, contributed 600 unpaid volunteer hours a year for a couple of decades as a Big Brother or Sister, a family court guardian ad litem, a public school classroom volunteer, a foster parent, an adoptive parent, and a parenting program staffer; AND spent 8% of your annual gross income directly in the support of children whose parents either couldn’t or wouldn’t care for them, children not of your kinship, your social circle or your church.
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June 27, 2010 at 12:01 pm
Thanks for the clarification, CG, on advertising. Personally, I hate all of those pop up ads, I think it detracts from the site itself. Also, I do not own this site, I was just asked to write the blog. So, I have nothing to say about ads I guess.
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June 27, 2010 at 2:46 pm
Talk to management. If they start selling ads, they should notify Sarah Palin that they’re donating the money to NARAL in the name of her and Bristol…
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June 27, 2010 at 1:05 pm
I just looked at Comdex, and Neilsen, and Jupiter Media,
This site is has much more interaction than the inference of 7,100 visitors per/day would infer.
From subscription data to important data sources it appears this is
THE MOST trafficked site of it’s kind in the World.
Take that visitation, and increase a full magnitude above your 7,100/day to >80,000/day.
Now take that metric, in terms of a simple metric I see 7 page /views per visitor on average with high variance and a substantial confidence interval.
The metric of
“InterAction” is not systemically agreed upon,
if one were to measure server log file entries, my guess would be around 1,000,000/day +/- 20% at 95% Power.
I don’t know if you dig it CG, check out the periodical 2600.
I do enjoy reading your back and forths.
I am pro choice all the way Man, and you sound like a smart dude.
I don’t typically chime in, I like to read, but I felt compelled
1) Abortion being the most contentious issue in America (OK, maybe the war is more, but that is more punctual ( I hope!)
2) The site points the largest disseminator of women’s access to reproductive rights.
http://www.Abortion.com
and that is also the definitive site in it’s niche.
All helping people daily.
If Burt Bacharach was younger he would probably write a very nice song about it.
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June 27, 2010 at 2:40 pm
Pretty impressive numbers, Kingsmen!! You’re a smarter man than I– unless you’re a woman or two people. It’s hard to tell with blognames…
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June 27, 2010 at 8:08 pm
What are you guys talking about?
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June 27, 2010 at 1:06 pm
CG,
check it out,
The Paul Anka song
Having My Baby
is a pro Life song!
Listen to the lyrics, curious what you think.
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June 27, 2010 at 4:22 pm
I always liked Barry Manilow better…
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June 27, 2010 at 8:09 pm
Yeah, OK, No comment, but I do not think he was an anti abortionist was he?
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June 27, 2010 at 2:36 pm
Kingsmen, that’s already been covered at the aborticentrism site:
check out this: http://web.mac.com/charlesgregory/ABORTICENTRISM/What_happens_to_%22wanted%22_babies.html
and its two subsequent links.
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June 27, 2010 at 8:11 pm
Sorry Man,
getting lost in the thready shuffle . . .
If I rad your book(?) will you read mine?
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June 28, 2010 at 6:42 am
With pleasure! Where do I find it?
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June 27, 2010 at 7:38 pm
I hope somebody says soon something I can understand.
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June 27, 2010 at 8:13 pm
With my guess at your quotient,
that is a major endeavor!
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June 27, 2010 at 8:21 pm
Pick up a book and read!
Then you can understand, I do not think you are as dumb as you pretend!
As I read this thread, these poor people ask the same question and you cannot answer the simplest.
Read, it’s all here on the web!!!!
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June 28, 2010 at 4:55 am
Finally, I can understand the above! But it’s boring.
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June 28, 2010 at 11:10 am
A few years ago I had an abortion. Today I am pro-life. I love reading your stories, Pat, and I think I agree with you lots of the times but today I have no children though we’ve tried. I am sad every day about the child I aborted and it hurts very much. I don’t want other women to go through the same thing I did.
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June 28, 2010 at 5:26 pm
Now here’s a pro-lifer after my own heart!
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