Despite the claims of protesters, adoption or parenting may not be the best choice. And certainly painting women with a big red letter A is not the best choice either. In fact, there’s evidence that refutes the protesters’ claims to “Wait another six months and you’ll grow to love the child” or “Give your baby up for adoption. That’s the better choice” or “Your baby loves you.” Researchers found many negative consequences for mothers and children when a woman chooses to carry such a pregnancy to term, including late presentation for prenatal care, a decrease in health promotion behaviors during pregnancy, continued alcohol and nicotine use during pregnancy, premature delivery, low-birth-weight infants, infants that are small for gestational age, inconsistent or no presentation for well- baby care, and a lack of breastfeeding.
An unwanted pregnancy increases the likelihood that the infant’s health will be compromised and it also shows poor outcomes for maternal fetal bonding should the birth mother keep and raise the child. These researchers also point out that poor mother–child relationships are not specific to the unwanted child; all of the children in the family suffer when the mother has given birth to a child as a result of an unwanted pregnancy. Many mothers with unwanted pregnancies deliver low or very low birth weight infants who have been associated with higher levels of maternal psychological distress including depression, anxiety, and obsessive compulsive behaviors.
Unwanted pregnancy and delivery has also been shown to be associated with postpartum depression, feelings of powerlessness, increased time pressures, and impaired physical health. Regardless of whether the woman keeps or gives the child up for adoption, she must actually go through the physical act of an unwanted pregnancy and unwanted childbirth. Researchers posit that this is likely to lead to significant feelings of powerlessness which have been significantly associated with the development of depression and anxiety, as well as with malaise, physical illness, and alcoholism. The research cited above shows that although there is no evidence for widespread and consistent symptoms of mental health disorders among women after an elective abortion, there actually may be significant negative consequences of unwanted childbearing for the mental health of the mother. This raises the question of whether an unqualified call for adoption is really a better option for maternal mental health. A mother who chooses to give up her child for adoption still has to undergo an unwanted pregnancy and childbirth with all of the poor potential outcomes that this may entail. Further, a child with health complications given up for adoption may not be seen as the most desirable candidate for prospective families and may languish in foster care. Additionally, the mental health of women who have given their children up for adoption has not been studied in depth owing to privacy laws that maintain the confidentiality of birth mothers. Most research on adoption has been conducted to determine factors that cause or result in mental health problems for children who have been adopted with the resounding finding being that most adoptees fall within the normal range of psychological functioning. Research that has been conducted on birth mother outcomes after relinquishment of the infant has found that having given up a child is perceived by birth mothers as having a long-term negative influence on their lives in the areas of marriage, fertility, and parenting subsequent children. Similarly, other research found that clinical symptoms for birth parents include unresolved grief, isolation, difficulty with future relationships, and trauma, and that the evidence for increased rates of depression among birth mothers (51% of respondents endorsed severe depression since relinquishment and 97% endorsed some level of depression [mild, moderate, or severe]). Last, in a review of articles, researchers found a grief reaction unique to birth mothers who had surrendered their children for adoption. This grief reaction consists of the typical features of the normal grief reaction; however, the symptoms persist and often lead to chronic unresolved grief.
So, let me put this in perspective using some mental health facts for women’s mental health, related to pregnancy in the United States.
Approximately 2,000,000-3,4000,000 women have the ‘baby blues’ –mild depression–after childbirth.
Approximately 400,000-600,000 women experience significant depression after birth.
Approximately 4,000-8,000 women experience psychosis after birth. Psychotic episodes are potentially dangerous for both the woman and the child and must be considered a life-threatening condition.
Similarly, the CDC claims that every year some eight million women suffer pregnancy-related complications and over half a million die from them.
- 11.0 deaths per 100,000 live births for white women.
- 34.8 deaths per 100,000 live births for black women.
- 15.7 deaths per 100,000 live births for women of other races.
Yet, according to the CDC’s Pregnancy Mortality Surveillance System. In 2006, the most recent year for which data were available, six women were reported to have died as a result of complications from known legal induced abortions.
The antiabortion movement has argued forcefully that abortion should be illegal because it is dangerous for women’s physical health and because some women experience emotional difficulties afterwards. According to that logic, perhaps we should make childbirth illegal. Flawed logic aside, the above suggests that we renew our efforts to respect and trust women and to support their family planning regardless of their choices (because they are ‘their’ choices).

June 28, 2012 at 10:32 am
Well, sure, Kate, life’s a bitch and then you die – or is that, life’s a beach. At any rate you guys are going to emphasize the dangers that can occur if the child lives and we are going to emphasize what can happen if you kill her.
But don’t you realize, Babes, that this is not about studs, or their chicks, or husbands, or wives, or her old man, or his pissed-off mom, or capitalists, some of whom get rich off the “procedures,” or even about what might happen later. It’s about a little girl who is just like you were a while ago. It’s really her decision to decide whether or not she wants to keep on living. So let her alone and see what happens.
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June 28, 2012 at 11:02 am
Do the aborted pregnancies go to heaven?
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June 28, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Aborted pregnancies just stop being pregnancies, KT. The murdered child goes to limbo.
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June 28, 2012 at 4:28 pm
You told me Limbo has been disavowed by your church, Mr. Dunkle. You’d better check again with your Jesuit son.
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June 28, 2012 at 6:17 pm
No I didn’t.
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June 29, 2012 at 10:12 am
Little jon jon has trouble keeping his stories straight.
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June 29, 2012 at 12:05 pm
sometimes, yeah
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June 29, 2012 at 2:04 pm
But not this time. I only lie when I really have to. Why should I lie about limbo?
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June 29, 2012 at 11:57 am
– Why don’t they go to Heaven?
– What happens in Limbo?
– Shouldn’t the Innocent Life have all the full liberties to go to Heaven just like any other Innocent Life?
– I think they go to Heaven . . . ?
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June 29, 2012 at 12:10 pm
– Why don’t they go to Heaven? Maybe they do, but I think you have to earn your way into Heaven.
– What happens in Limbo? My guess is eternal happiness.
– Shouldn’t the Innocent Life have all the full liberties to go to Heaven just like any other Innocent Life? Gets complicated — before
Christ all those innocents were deprived of Heaven.
– I think they go to Heaven . . . ? That’s fine.
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June 29, 2012 at 12:18 pm
Of coarse they go to Heaven!!!!
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June 29, 2012 at 12:19 pm
Wow, there are still a lot of people that believe in Magic on this Blog!!!
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June 29, 2012 at 2:06 pm
Like you, Ev, but yours is black.
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July 1, 2012 at 7:43 am
Is “Dunkle” saying that Jesus would “punish” a poor Innocent “unborn” by not allowing it to go back to “heaven” where it came from?!?! I don’t think Jesus would punish like that…to make it float around in “limbo”??
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July 1, 2012 at 8:46 am
“Dunkle,” LDM, is not saying that. Jesus punishes those who refuse to accept what he offers. I would think that commandants of small auschwitzes try his patience.
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July 1, 2012 at 2:29 pm
Miscarriages and abortions go to Heaven.
An innocent does not have to do anything, or earn their way to heaven.
They just need to accept Jesus as their personal savor to get into Heaven.
Even Hitler did this in the end. Hitler is in heaven as he was forgiven by God.
Salk, the creator of the Polio vaccine, helped 100’s of millions of people – in other words he did a lot of good work.
But he did not accept Jesus.
So he is in Hell, and Hitler is laughing at him for that mistake.
The bible is very clear on this point.
We must have forgiveness in Christianity even for people like Hitler. The other heathens should be damned to Hell for an eternity of endless suffering.
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July 1, 2012 at 3:44 pm
You must be Protestant, KT. They can believe anything.
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July 2, 2012 at 11:48 am
John,
That is insulting. I am committed to my Catholic Faith.
Forgiveness is a pillar of virtue.
I have asked many Priests about this fact and they all agree. It appears John you stray from Catholisism if that is what you claim to be.
You must allow Jesus back into your empty darkened heart, and let him fill your impoverished soul so it may be part of the divinity again.
I implore you.
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July 2, 2012 at 3:55 pm
I just traveled down your nine, or is it ten, paragraphs, ET. Everyone of them is wrong. Just because you’re Catholic doesn’t mean you’re not stupid!
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July 2, 2012 at 6:34 pm
Several priests have told me, JD, that you are excommunicated for your violent behaviors and blasphemes against the Holy See.
Why do you not repent your endless sins against humanity.
If there is room for Hitler in Heaven, certainly the Almighty can grant you, JD, room by his side. You and Hitler can be best of friends.
Why do you not repent in the name of the Trinity JD for your evil ways?
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July 2, 2012 at 7:14 pm
Now, KT, oops, not ET, now you’re getting stooopit
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June 28, 2012 at 4:27 pm
I’m going to state the facts that relate to a woman. What can happen to a woman during a pregnancy, childbirth and after childbirth is far more relevant and far more important than to worry about some fetus.
The priorities of the right wing conservatives, misogynists and radical fundamentalists seem to be such that they want women to lose what little progress they’ve made in the last century. If some had their way, they’d make this country a christian nation, akin to the likes of Margaret Atwood’s dystopia ‘The Handmaiden’s Tale’. It’s sickening to think that even women among these radicals promote female subservience, eternal pregnancy and a quiver of children. How different are these folks from the Taliban? They’re not.
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June 28, 2012 at 6:24 pm
I’m going to state the facts that relate to us Germans. What can happen to a us during an economic and social crisis, and afterwards, is far more relevant and far more important than to worry about some Jews.
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June 29, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Mr. Dunkle is correct. The Jews should not be worried about.
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June 29, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Yes they should, MK. So should young people.
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June 29, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Dunkle – Are you German?
Given your aged status and beliefs that would make so much sense.
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June 29, 2012 at 2:07 pm
Pennsylvania Dutch, so, yeah.
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June 28, 2012 at 2:06 pm
Pope Benedict opposes the idea of limbo despite it being part of Catholic thought since the Middle Ages so has taken it out of circulation in the book of do’s and don’ts. The new doctrine brings Catholicism in line with Islam, which also believes that all children go to Heaven.
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June 28, 2012 at 2:50 pm
Believing in limbo was never a doctrine, and not believing in it isn’t a doctrine either, as believing in Heaven is. Sure Ben pulled away from it but that doesn’t mean I have to also. I still think it is the most reasonable explanation of what might happen to us after we die. The Pope should see things my way soon.
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June 29, 2012 at 12:03 pm
The Pope is Good German, especially his Nazi ideas on the Jew.
Mr. Dunkle is good to bring up His Religion and how they treat the Jew.
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June 29, 2012 at 12:12 pm
stoopit
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June 29, 2012 at 12:24 pm
Delusions of Grandeur!
Get out the Neuroleptics for The Dunkle . . . he thinks he sways the Holy See?
The Nazi Pope Benedict. Pope Pius was a good Nazi also.
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June 29, 2012 at 2:20 pm
stoopit, stoopit
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July 1, 2012 at 2:34 pm
JD’s replies are consistently typical of his inability to reply.
JD, the facts hurt you.
You cannot accept the reality.
You are like a pathetic weasel worming your words like ‘Force’. I know what you mean. I have already seen you admit it on this site.
The Pope was a Nazi. Why so hard to admit?
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July 1, 2012 at 3:49 pm
Ev’s replies are consistently typical of his inability to reply.
Ev, the facts hurt you. You cannot accept the reality.
You are like a pathetic weasel worming your words like ‘Force’. I know what you mean. I have already seen you admit it on this site.
Ev is a Nazi. Why so hard to admit?
Sorry, EC. Ev doesn’t understand stoopit.
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July 2, 2012 at 11:51 am
Again, more proof that Dunkle cannot construct an original literate reply.
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July 2, 2012 at 7:25 pm
But if you were able to could read my illiterate ones, Evi, you’d be embarrassed
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July 2, 2012 at 7:31 pm
John,
So little of what you write makes sense to any person with intelligence.
If you are capable – I’m guessing you are not – why not just say factually and honestly what you desire to say.
The silly word games, grammar corrections, and so on only prove that you have no rebuttal. It makes you look dumb ( well dumber than you probably are). You probably would benefit from Not acting out like a child in the way you do. It gives all Anti choice – Anti Abortion people a bad perspective. Please stop. OK?
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July 3, 2012 at 4:32 am
“John, So little of what you write makes sense to any person with intelligence.” I didn’t read past this, J, because that leaves you out. So why should I waste my time.
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February 8, 2014 at 9:27 pm
Gee wiileklrs, that’s such a great post!
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October 14, 2014 at 11:10 pm
There’s a terrific amount of knowledge in this article!
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June 28, 2012 at 2:07 pm
But is a fetus a child?
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June 28, 2012 at 2:53 pm
What else? And she’ll never get top be an adult if you keep helping to kill her.
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June 28, 2012 at 4:29 pm
Of course not. It’s a fetus. Not a child, young person or baby. When you get pregnant, you can call it what you like.
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June 28, 2012 at 6:27 pm
Coming next: “Of course not. It’s an infant. Not a child, young person or baby. When you give birth, you can call it what you like.”
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June 28, 2012 at 4:31 pm
Notice how the so-called “pro-lifer” works assiduously to direct attention away from the fact that his ilk don’t actually CARE for the real children whom they love so much as fetuses. They don’t dare address what it takes to give a child a human life; their entire focus is on death.
Why should they be so focused on death and not on the needs of life?
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June 28, 2012 at 6:28 pm
Go away, Chuck.
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June 29, 2012 at 12:05 pm
In Islam we care for the Child too . . . as long as not Jew.
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June 29, 2012 at 12:13 pm
Or Catholic! Don’t forget us Catholics.
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June 29, 2012 at 12:26 pm
We care for the Catholic. The problem is the Catholic murdered so many innocents. They need to apologize for all the Catholic Torture Chambers!
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June 29, 2012 at 2:22 pm
MK! You’re Ibby, aintcha! I love it when you forget your accent.
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July 1, 2012 at 2:36 pm
????? Explain?
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July 1, 2012 at 3:51 pm
Sometimes you forget to talk like the Near-Easterner you pretend to be.
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June 29, 2012 at 8:07 am
Charles,
Prolife is a misnomer for certain. The protesters I’ve witnessed outside clinics in PA, KY, NC, TX and IL who are fetal worshippers. They direct their obsession to the contents of the fecund uterus while disregarding and disrespecting the wholeness of woman. In other words, they are not pro life because to be pro life would mean to be for all of life. Their blindness disables their ability to treat women as humans who should be regarded with respect and trust. They objectify women much the same way as hypersexualized men and advertisers use cleavage to sell vodka, breasts to entice truckers to topless bars, hips to funk up music videos. To those thugs on the streets, women are just incubators on legs. Like the man’s suave come-on intended only to get into her vagina, the pro lifer’s come-on is a pornographic entreaty to her womb.
And with respect to the abortion-adoption issue, all too many turn a blind eye to the dangerous realities of pregnancy, of the potential problems with adoption because they live in a world where they believe god will provide. Well god doesn’t provide. That’s damn obvious if you look around. And like you have said many times, these pro lifers don’t and can’t care. Their myopia prevents them from caring, respect and trusting women.
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June 29, 2012 at 10:09 am
Go away, Kate.
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June 29, 2012 at 10:14 am
Nah, just kidding (you too, Chuck).
And besides, we got something going: “The protesters I’ve witnessed outside clinics in PA, KY, NC, TX and IL who are fetal worshipers.”
I balance that with this: The killers’ helpers I’ve witnessed outside mills in PA, NJ, NY, CT, MD, FL, ND, IL, and those I’ve missed mean I probably double you up. I have lived about twice as long as you, though.
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June 29, 2012 at 12:09 pm
Another powerful commentary by bloggingfem.
Inspiring, as usual, and Utterly Decimating the poor mental capacity of the Anti Abortion – Anti Choice Person.
Their diminished mentation and inability to articulate any real logical discussion is so sadly revealing.
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June 29, 2012 at 12:17 pm
Another powerful rebuttal by Dunkle, or, just to make LDM happy, “Dunkle.”
Inspiring, as usual, and Utterly Decimating the poor mental capacity of the Pro Abortion – Pro Choice Person.
Her diminished mentation and inability to articulate any real logical discussion is so sadly revealing.
(What’s “mentation”?)
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June 29, 2012 at 12:38 pm
You don’t know? Look it up you illiterate.
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June 29, 2012 at 2:24 pm
You do it, Ev, and tell me. Inferiors are supposed to do things for their superiors.
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July 1, 2012 at 2:37 pm
That is why you need to look it up, you idiot.
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July 1, 2012 at 3:51 pm
Ooooh, you’re tough.
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July 2, 2012 at 11:55 am
Not as tough as someone like JD that supports and celebrates convicted murderers – however, JD, I am your superior.
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July 2, 2012 at 7:27 pm
Go away, Evi, I’m afraid of you.
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February 10, 2014 at 6:40 pm
You lost me, friend. After all, I iainmge I recieve what youre saying. I am aware what you’re saying, but you just appear to have forgotten that might be some other folks within the world who view this matter for the purpose it can be and may even perhaps not believe you. You might be turning away a lot of folks who had been lovers within your website.
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July 1, 2012 at 2:18 pm
Well said, bloggingfem!
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June 29, 2012 at 8:16 am
And speaking of the wholeness of humanity and not just their parts, thank goodness for the Supreme Court’s decision:
Today is a good day for millions of Americans who have pre-existing conditions who can no longer be rejected by insurance companies. It is a good day for families with children under 26 who can keep their children on their health insurance policies.
****It is a good day for women who can no longer be charged far higher premiums than men.****
It is a good day for 30 million uninsured Americans who will have access to healthcare. It is a good day for seniors who will continue to see their prescription drug costs go down as the so-called doughnut hole goes away. It is a good day for small businesses who simply cannot continue to afford the escalating costs of providing insurance for their employees. It is a good day for 20 million Americans who will soon be able to find access to community health centers.
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June 29, 2012 at 2:26 pm
Kate, is it a good day or a bad day for the potential victims in our Holocaust?
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June 29, 2012 at 2:28 pm
That is our topic, you know.
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June 29, 2012 at 2:37 pm
“Go away” = “I’m not going to address something that challenges my frame of reference.”
Aborticentrism. The dysfunctional self-help program which calls itself “pro-life.”
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June 29, 2012 at 3:10 pm
Chuckles, Chuckles, I did say you could come back didn’t I? Once in a while you say something valuable. Every once in a while.
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July 1, 2012 at 2:40 pm
Good point Responsible. You again reveal the soft underbelly of a complete lack of any coherent logical thinking from JD.
I actually feel bad for the moronic fool. Maybe he needs to be in an institution to get the proper medications?
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July 1, 2012 at 3:58 pm
stoopit, stoopit, stoopit
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July 2, 2012 at 6:40 pm
Well, the Dunkle response once again reveals the sft inarticulate illiterate underbelly of the Dunkles of the world.
Thank you Dunkle for revealing what you are to everyone. You make my efforts so effortless!
I can only laugh at you pathetic lack of abilility to respond with any coherence of thought.
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July 2, 2012 at 7:28 pm
stoopit, stoopit, stoopit, stoopit
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July 2, 2012 at 7:35 pm
Thank you for proving my point for me!
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July 1, 2012 at 7:21 am
Hey what is this? I leave for a day or so to do prolife work (I don’t want Kate and Chuck to have heart attacks so I won’t explain) and nobody talks! Common Pat, Kate, Rog, Chuck, FX. Common you others — promise I won’t make fun of your illiteracies.
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July 1, 2012 at 7:32 am
to do a little clandestine prolife work
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July 1, 2012 at 11:19 am
i am sorry if i was harsh in earlier statements, but what do you mean by this Pro-life work?
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July 1, 2012 at 11:41 am
Use your dictionary, Smitty.
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July 1, 2012 at 12:31 pm
hah, in light of your aptitude, your comprehension has fallen short, if i was to journey into a path of dictating your every flaw, the gods would laugh, but i dont do that, i understand that its in secret i know the word, i was obviously asking what you did.
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July 1, 2012 at 1:06 pm
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July 1, 2012 at 2:44 pm
Good point again, Smith.
The Dunkle lies, worships murderers, burns American Flags, wants to worship murderers like Martyrs.
Who knows what evil he may be or have been involved in.
That is why he is so reticent to reveal his “secret” activities.
He foments the use of “Force,” and I can tell what his pseudo cryptic messages mean. If he thinks he is fooling anyone, he is a bigger fool (hard to believe) than I originally thought.
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July 1, 2012 at 3:59 pm
You’ve said before, Ev, and it was boring then.
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July 2, 2012 at 12:03 pm
JD, since you lack the ability to articulate your perspective well I’ll ask you directly.
1) What part do you disagree with?
2) When you say use Forse, what do you mean Exactly?
3) You advocate Justifiable Homicide correct?
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July 2, 2012 at 2:48 pm
JD, since you lack the ability to articulate your perspective well, I’ll ask you directly.
1) What part do you disagree with? part of what?
2) When you say use force, what do you mean exactly? I mean the legitimate but illegal uses: blocking entrances to mills, disabling killing machines, preventing killers from doing their jobs, damaging the little auschwitzes to the point where they can’t get insurance, lots of stuff.
3) You advocate justifiable homicide, correct? yes
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July 2, 2012 at 7:05 pm
JD,
Thank you for being honest finally. It is appreciated.
1) So you advocate by force the terrorist activities to harm legal endeavors.
2) you advocate the violence against Abrtion providers and their associates. Thank you fr being honest finally. How many Justifabe Homicider Murderers have you you helped?
3) You advocate illegal use of violence and conspire so the legal businesses cannot get insurance – whatever that means.
4) Please educate me and your constituency about ” lots of stuff.”. What does that mean specifically?
Thanks for being honest for once, I appreciate it.
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July 2, 2012 at 7:31 pm
I’m gonna have to rewrite this baby for ya, Evi, after I digest my martinis, maybe tomorrow morning.
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July 2, 2012 at 7:47 pm
Would Jesus do what you are doing John?
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July 2, 2012 at 7:56 pm
John,
Please explains why you believe it is OK to act violently against law abiding citizens, and place their well being in Jeopardy…
Why is OK to make law abiding citizens fear for their safety by you and your Compatriotes tactics?
Why terrorize individuals? When it is better to legislate? You have intimidated many people by your terrorist type activities, but they just do not work. So why do you do it?
Why are you John Dunkle, above the law that you claim that you can use illegal means? Legal endeavors are very effective…why reset to terrorism?
I am really trying to understand your perspective.
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February 9, 2014 at 4:32 pm
Did You know that, if you live in a territory where there is silhgt or no traffic, then you’re more expected to pay less insurance coverage compared to those individuals who reside in the metropolitan areas where there is a lot of traffic.
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July 1, 2012 at 10:59 am
From Pew Research, CNN, Secular Student Alliance (SSA) comes a bit of news that shouldn’t be shocking to any critical thinker, any person who believes in science, anyone who sees the rampant hypocrisy and corruption among organized religions’ followers and leaders, anyone who knows what it’s like to recover from religious indoctrination, anyone who knows that you don’t need God to be good:
Younger Americans from high school to college, from ages 18-29, called the Millennial generation, are increasingly less religious than their elders. In fact, they are dropping out of religion at five to six times the historic rate (30-40 percent have no religion today), versus 5 to 10 percent a generation ago. And where are these non-believers going? Not to church, that’s for church, but to other supportive organizations.
For example, the Secular Student Alliance’ mission “is to organize, unite, educate, and serve students and student communities that promote the ideals of scientific and critical inquiry, democracy, secularism, and human-based ethics. We envision a future in which nontheistic students are respected voices in public discourse and vital partners in the secular movement’s charge against irrationality and dogma.” This organization’s growth in high schools and colleges has been phenomenal.
The Pew research also pointed out that the Millennial generation supports abortion, gay marriage, and science. Unlike their older, religious types, they embrace differences, hate less, condemn less.
Not bad news, eh?
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July 1, 2012 at 11:57 am
Duh! We promote masturbation and make it legal to kill young people, and then we say it shouldn’t be shocking that the next generation has accepted those abominations?
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July 1, 2012 at 12:53 pm
What do you mean by ‘we’ in your comment?
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July 1, 2012 at 1:05 pm
whom — adult United States citizens
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July 1, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Why is masturbation an abomination? Woody Allen said it’s really just having sex with someone you love. Maybe it’s an abomination only when done by people who hate themselves, which would make it rape?
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July 1, 2012 at 2:30 pm
It’s like the vomitoriums of an earlier group of perverts, Chuck. End should dictate function, you know, nourishment/eating, new life/copulation. Sure, pleasure is associated with both ingesting and expelling but pleasure should never be the end in itself.
I can’t believe Woody’s irony escapes you. How “rubbers” survived his earlier assault, escapes me.
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July 1, 2012 at 2:54 pm
Masturbation is normal, dude. Normally healthy social males, abstaining from masturbation, experienced negative symptoms like obsessive-compulsiveness, thought disorders, social anxiety and depression.Why not give it a try? It might improve your comments on this blog.
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July 1, 2012 at 4:00 pm
Ha, ha, ha, ha — negative symptoms!
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July 3, 2012 at 5:31 am
Sorry, Mr. Dunkle, but only in philosophy does “should” apply; in real life, it is the evolution of function that shapes end, and vice versa. “Should” is the term we use to try to make sense of something we either don’t understand or want to try to control.
To use that as an argument that masturbation is unnatural is to then have to argue that it would be unnatural for a female spider not to kill the male or the female preying mantis not to decapitate the female after mating. After all, in those cases, murder/copulation.
You so-called “pro-lifers” can’t wrap your minds around the fact that the real world is extremely complicated. Your compulsion to create a black-and-white reality in order to be seen as heroes necessarily blinds you to its complexity.
This is why you cannot bring yourself to care for real children.
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July 3, 2012 at 8:49 am
This might not be nonsense, Chuck, but you’ll have to rewrite it to convince me (suggestion, say one thing at a time). And you probably realize it’s nonsense too because you end trying to distract the reader with that inane comment you’ve already made 193 times.
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July 3, 2012 at 4:56 am
Now back to Evi:
JD, Thank you for being honest finally. It is appreciated. Oh, comon, Ev, I’m always honest when it’s easy to be, like on here. You’re the one to be thanked for dropping the ad homs long enough to finally ask an interesting question.
1) So you advocate by force the terrorist activities to harm legal endeavors. “So you advocate using force to stop terrorism, even though in the country where the terrorists are living that may be legal.” Yes
2) you advocate the violence against Abrtion providers and their associates. “You advocate using force against baby killers and baby killers’ helpers.” Yes
Thank you fr being honest finally. How many Justifabe Homicider Murderers have you you helped? None
3) You advocate illegal use of violence and conspire so the legal businesses cannot get insurance – whatever that means. “You advocate damaging mills even though you know that as a result their insurance costs will rise so high that they will have to close.” Yes.
4) Please educate me and your constituency about ” lots of stuff.”. What does that mean specifically? I’ll get to this later.
Thanks for being honest for once, I appreciate it. You’re welcome, and thanks for being calm, enough, for once.
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July 3, 2012 at 5:25 am
And the rest:
Would Jesus do what you are doing John? No, he drank wine.
John, Please explains why you believe it is OK to act violently against law abiding citizens, and place their well being in Jeopardy. You asked this above, Ev! You drinking martinis too?
Why is OK to make law abiding citizens fear for their safety by you and your compatriot’s tactics? When the law-abiding citizens are actually terrorists, it is legitimate to use almost anything to stop them.
Why terrorize individuals? I don’t advocate terrorizing individuals; I advocate using force to stop their terrorizing.
When it is better to legislate? Legislation doesn’t work until enough people support it.
You have intimidated many people by your terrorist type activities, but they just do not work. So why do you do it? Standing outside of a baby killer’s home with the A KILLER LIVES HERE sign is not a terrorist type activity. I think it hasn’t so far worked because other prolifers have yet to do it too.
Why are you John Dunkle, above the law that you claim that you can use illegal means? All citizens residing in a lawless nation are required to be above those laws and they are required to resist them with all legitimate means..
Legal endeavors are very effective…why resort to terrorism? “Legal endeavors are very effective…why resort to force?” Ah, a very good question. In other words, why do I think that my holding that sign will really not change the fact that we will continue, lawfully, to tear apart young people and soon kill older ones too. Why do I think that legal endeavors are not very effective. I think that because I believe I don’t sacrifice enough. I am not a martyr. Only martyrs change things.
I am really trying to understand your perspective. You go, boy.
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July 8, 2012 at 11:50 am
The real question is would Evi do what John does? Me thinks, no guts
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