A common sentiment from antiabortion activists is the juxtaposition of what they want versus what the clinic staff and volunteers want. For example, Gerry McWilliams, an incorrigible protester at Allentown Womens Center, is fond of saying to women as they cross the parking lot with clinic escorts (who wear green AWC vests), “We want your baby to live. Those people in the green vests want your baby to die.” It’s a perfect example of a logical fallacy in public debates on politics, ethics, and religion. As a straw man, this protester attacks a position not held by the other side (in fact, staff and escorts respect what women want), then acts as though the other side’s (the escorts in the vests) position has been refuted. This straw man is easy to defeat and is a sign of a weak, desperate man who knows he is losing. It’s also an indication that the woman is symbolically dismissed.
The notorious Flip Benham, Director of Operation Save America, writes about abortion in an ironic twist “there are no cheap political solutions to the holocaust presently ravaging our nation” (operationsaveamerica web site). Yet, outside the Hebron, NC clinic, he uses cheap political solutions that are grotesque, bordering on pornographic. Standing on a raised platform, he uses a bullhorn to broadcast to women entering the clinic “the devil inside that door will drink the blood of your child.” Again, the appeal is for the sensational and the want of the fetus. It’s not about what the woman wants. She is symbolically dismissed as unimportant.
When prolife pundit Abby Johnson tells her story on college campuses about why she resigned her position at Planned Parenthood, she appeals to emotions. Claiming to have witnessed an ultrasound-guided abortion that horrified her, she claims she was compelled to cross over to the prolife side. Of course, she obscures the fact that she was about to get fired. She also fails to mention the money she earns for her new-found celebrity status. But that’s another story. In telling her story over and over, she attempts to create a logically coherent narrative to convince her audiences that abortion is wrong. But, like others who just don’t get it, she ignores the very reality that abortion is right for one out of every three women of reproductive age. She, too, ignores these women.
Another common prolife sentiment, especially among the women, is talk about life being precious. A tender-hearted Lutheran minister in Allentown, PA, suggested these women just loved babies. They prattle on with what is essentially their own desires, “Love your baby” or “Life is precious. Don’t kill your baby” or “Give your baby up for adoption. It’s the selfless thing to do.” But their suggestion of adoption as a selfless option fails to consider the documented disadvantages of adoption. It fails to recognize that life’s preciousness can and should mean the concerns of the woman who is considering her options with an unplanned, unwanted pregnancy. But for these prolife women, symbolically dismissing the pregnant women, while favoring “the babies” is simply what they do best.
At clinics across the nation, antiabortion activists stand on sidewalks and streets with signs that 1) not only make it easy for women to locate the clinics (because they are warned about the trolls) but 2) illustrate their own obsessions and utter disregard for the very women they hope to attract. They use grotesque fetal images that exploit fetal death, that strip any human dignity from the fetus, and that turn death into leering pornography. These faux moralists cheapen their brand when they stigmatize women through grotesque imagery and powerful language of condemnation. Their monster talk is convenient. It frees them from thinking about the sacredness of women. And with predictable frequency, the protesters create a circus of the bizarre for women and their companions, with performances of religiosity, banal rituals of fear mongering, and social repudiation directed at women and their companions. And while they claim to direct their efforts toward women, in reality, they are simply performing acts of self-righteousness while ignoring what women want. In other words, they symbolically dismiss women in favor of what they want.
It was Gaye Tuchman (1978) who coined the phrase ‘symbolic annihilation’ when she was describing how women were underrepresented or misrepresented in media and society. She divided symbolic annihilation into three aspects: omission, trivialization and condemnation. It is within these aspects that symbolic annihilation is evident in the prolife industry. They omit women’s agency. They trivialize women’s reasons for wanting an abortion. And they certainly condemn women who consider abortion and who choose abortion.
Symbolic annihilation of women through omission, trivialization and condemnation: it’s the hallmark of the antiabortion zealots who care less about the rights of girls and women.

July 26, 2012 at 4:42 am
Kate, you’re like me. You’ve been in the classroom so long you can’t help saying what’s on your mind, even if that might damage a cause you’re trying to advance.
Can’t wait to tell Gerry what you said about, “We want your baby to live. Those people in the green vests want your baby to die.”
And I’ll use my megaphone (please don’t call it a bullhorn) to spread Flip’s message, “the devil inside that door will drink the blood of your child.”
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February 11, 2014 at 6:58 pm
Real brain power on dilpyas. Thanks for that answer!
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July 26, 2012 at 7:45 am
“All Women & Girls Count” for us killers’ helpers, except for the youngest. Those we help torture to death.
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July 26, 2012 at 7:46 am
Can’t I get a rise out of anybody these hours?
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July 26, 2012 at 7:53 am
The religilous (see Bill Maher) behavior of antichoicers has a dimension of humor. Faced with perpetually being ignored, they continue to display their disgusting signs and shout their offensive, ignorant lines. What examples of Einstein’s definition of insanity! They are oblivious to the embarassment they cause the vast majority of people, including Catholics. That obliviousness is invisible to them, as they live in their own, huge egos and are the only stars in their own personal galaxies.
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July 26, 2012 at 8:03 am
They’re a comedy act all right, complete with lawn ornaments, their bullhorns to hawk their religilous and faux medicine fables, their crosses, their rosaries, their illogical signs and their general public nuisances.
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February 8, 2014 at 1:16 pm
Hey there would you mind sharing which blog polrfatm you’re using? I’m planning to start my own blog in the near future but I’m having a difficult time deciding between BlogEngine/Wordpress/B2evolution and Drupal. The reason I ask is because your layout seems different then most blogs and I’m looking for something unique. P.S Sorry for getting off-topic but I had to ask!
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July 26, 2012 at 8:10 am
They are so focused on abortion as to preclude care for real human life. Aborticentric.
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February 8, 2014 at 6:48 pm
Socialization can also explore the floiowlng broad heads: About the policy on and employment. Failing to provide these volunteers with skill development opportunities will probably result in the context of this trend.
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February 10, 2014 at 9:17 am
The hotsney of your posting shines through
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July 26, 2012 at 9:17 am
Will the New York City radical elitists and their duped minions in the hinterlands like Kate Ranieri have their way, or will the good red-blooded citizens of one of our great states have theirs:
A federal appeals court affirmed the last provision of a long-disputed informed consent law today, ruling that the state of South Dakota can require abortionists to inform women seeking to terminate the lives of their unborn babies that they face an increased risk of suicide.
Attorney Harold J. Cassidy called the decision of the full 8th Circuit Court of Appeals “a fabulous victory for the women of the state of South Dakota.”
Cassidy represents Leslee Unruh, president of the Alpha Center of Sioux Falls, and Stacy Wollman, president of Care Net of Rapid City. They were allowed in intervene in the case filed by Planned Parenthood against the state’s new law.
“This victory represents the fourth separate decision of the 8th Circuit reversing the district court in this one case, two decisions issued by en banc (full) courts four years apart – a rare occurrence that underscores the importance of the issues presented by the case,” said Cassidy.
“As a result of this case upholding all eight major provisions of South Dakota’s Abortion Informed Consent Statute, pregnant mothers will now be informed: 1) that ‘an abortion terminates the life of a whole, separate, unique, living human being;’ 2) that the mother’s ‘relationship with that second human being enjoys protection under the Constitution of the United States and the laws of South Dakota;’ 3) ‘that relationship and all rights attached to it will be terminated;’ and 4) the abortion places the mother ‘at increased risk for suicide ideation and suicide,’” he said.
The court’s opinion said even Planned Parenthood’s own testimony documented a link between abortion and suicide.
To understand Planned Parenthood’s agenda get “Marketing of Evil: How Radicals, Elitists, and Pseudo Experts Sell Us Corruption Disguises as Freedom.”
Planned Parenthood’s own expert, Dr. Nada Stotland, admitted that one of the studies, which determined a suicide rate after abortion of 31.9 per 100,000 as compared to a suicide rate after live birth of 5.0 per 100,000, ‘indicates an association; not causation, but an association’ between abortion and suicide,” the judges wrote.
Commenting on the decision, Steven H. Aden of the Alliance Defending Freedom said “a woman’s right to make a fully informed choice is more important than Planned Parenthood’s bottom line.”
“If Planned Parenthood truly cared about the well-being of women, it would not try to prevent them from being informed of the well-documented risk of suicide that accompanies abortion,” he said. “The 8th Circuit has done the right thing in upholding a reasonable law that protects the well-being of women by making sure that the truth is not hidden from them.”
The Sioux Falls Alpha Center’s Unruh said the ruling “gives hope to the hopeless.”
“These are women who had abortions who were coerced, persecuted, broken. These women did a very courageous thing in going to the South Dakota legislature and telling their stories,” she said. “These judges have believed them, listened to their hearts and have ruled on their behalf.”
The lawsuit was brought by Planned Parenthood against the state after the legislature in 2005 adopted the new informed consent requirements for abortionists.
Cassidy noted that normally a statement of the importance of the decision would suffice.
“However, we feel that, in this instance, given the fact that South Dakota’s Informed Consent Statute, passed to protect the interests of pregnant mothers in South Dakota, was the subject of false claims and protracted litigation that took seven years to conclude, and required the intervenors to win four different appeals in the Eighth Circuit, requires further comment,” he said.
“Throughout the legislative processes, over the past eight years, and all during the pending of this litigation, as well as that of the new case now pending in the District Court (in which Alpha Center and Care Net are party intervenors), Planned Parenthood has threatened expensive litigation and counsel fees. Planned Parenthood has argued that they should be free to perform their radical abortion practices the way its New York City office prefers and that the people of the state of South Dakota should not impose regulations that reflect the values of the people of the state; and the people should not protect the interests of their pregnant mothers.
“Planned Parenthood has been proven completely wrong on every issue in the case. The state statute is a constitutionally valid method to protect pregnant mothers,” he said.
“The people of the State of South Dakota have stood up to the threats, false accusations and litigation tactics of Planned Parenthood. In the process, the people of South Dakota have shown that they will not be intimidated by threats of litigation, threats of payment of attorneys’ fees, and will hold fast to their conviction that a handful of people in New York, with a radical philosophy, will not dictate to the people of South Dakota, when, if, and how they will protect their women from harm, pressure, coercion and false and incomplete information when making the most important decision of their lives,” he said.
Another new law adopted in South Dakota is subject to a second challenge by Planned Parenthood. The law requires that a physician have a personal interview with a woman seeking an abortion. The woman must be offered counseling by state-approved counseling centers before the abortionist can schedule the procedure.
In South Dakota, Planned Parenthood flies abortionists in to a facility where they perform abortions. The law requires doubling the visits, because an abortionist could not interview a woman and perform an abortion on her during the same trip.
The law also requires that an abortionist determine whether the woman is being coerced into the abortion and imposes a waiting period.
Several of the requirements no longer are being challenged by Planned Parenthood, and they are going into effect in the state. Remaining under challenge is the counseling requirement along with the three-day waiting period.
The state recently announced: “Pursuant to the 2011 and 2012 legislation and the order, beginning July 1, 2012, doctors who perform abortions must assess each woman for pre-existing risk factors such as coercion and must advise the woman about the risk of adverse psychological outcomes.”
During the 2012 legislative session, South Dakotans amended several portions of the 2011 abortion law, and Planned Parenthood followed up with an amended complaint. Planned Parenthood dropped its challenge to the provisions regarding coercion and a risk-factor assessment but continued challenging requirements regarding the referrals to the pregnancy help centers and the three-day delay.
As a result, the two sides agreed to an order that the coercion and risk-factor assessment provisions could go into effect right away.
“The remaining challenged provisions – the requirement for involvement of the pregnancy help centers and the three-day delay – will continue to be enjoined pending the outcome of discovery, briefing and argument before the district court,” the state’s announcement said.
According to a statement by the Alpha Center of Sioux Falls and the Black Hills Pregnancy Center of Rapid City, two abortion alternative centers to which women may be referred, the decision from Judge Karen Schreier opens the door to substantial new requirements for abortions.
“Planned Parenthood can no longer have a clerk schedule abortion surgery – which has been its practice – without a physician first seeing a pregnant mother, compelling a change in the practices at the Planned Parenthood abortion facility,” the statement said.
“Only a physician can schedule an abortion, and only after the physician first performs an assessment, which includes an assessment to determine if the pregnant mother is being pressured or coerced into having an abortion. Until now, no such assessments were performed, and no physician saw the pregnant mother until after the surgery was scheduled and only after she was required to sign a consent for the abortion and only after she was required to pay for the abortion,” the statement continued.
In today’s decision over the 2005 law, the appeals court ruling said: “To succeed … Planned Parenthood must show that the [suicide-abortion link] disclosure at issue ‘is either untruthful, misleading or not relevant to the patient’s decision to have an abortion.’”
“The legislature expressly required the disclosure of an ‘increased risk,’ not a causal link. Based on the accepted usage of the term ‘increased risk’ … the usage of that term … does not imply a disclosure of a causal relationship,” the court said.
Instead, the section “requires a disclosure simply that the risk of suicide and suicide ideation is higher among women who abort.”
The judges also said, “We hold that the disclosure facially mandated by the suicide advisory is truthful.”
“The state legislature, rather than a federal court, is in the best position to weigh the divergent results and come to a conclusion about the best way to protect its populace. So long as the means chosen by the state do not impose an unconstitutional burden on women seeking abortions or their physicians, we have no basis to interfere,” the court said.
So the way ain’t over yet, is it. I don’t expect you folks to understand (you know, that ideology thing) what Unruh wrote above, but we do have some prolifers here and I wanted them to see it.
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July 27, 2012 at 8:14 am
Geez, John, why dont you just send us the whole friggin opinion? This new law is hilarious. I gotta write about this this weekend!
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July 27, 2012 at 5:37 pm
Sorry, couldn’t think of anything else. And you guys copy long stuff too, lookit Kate.
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February 8, 2014 at 5:44 pm
Hey I just got a popup from my firewall when I oenped your site. Do you realize why this occured? Could it perhaps from the ads or some thing? It really unusual and I hope it was harmless? Come on, it’s my new PC
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July 26, 2012 at 12:51 pm
The SD law means that doctors go from being an advocate of the patient and a representative of the best possible medical consensus to an advocate for the anti-choice cause. It’s nothing short of a perversion of the doctrine of informed consent and, to make it worse, in each case it is supported by the theory that these laws empower women.
In no other medical context do we regulate informed consent disclosures the way we do in abortion cases. The standard of care for medical professionals is to advise of any reasonable medical risk. If suicide was a reasonable medical risk associated with abortion then doctors would already have an obligation to disclose it in the context of a consultation. That this is not standard medical practice but one invented by anti-choice legislators says all that needs to be said about the truthfulness of these disclosures or the necessity of these practices.
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July 27, 2012 at 8:16 am
The anti-abortion movement basically has nothing to do. So they come up with these laughable laws that have practically no impact whatsoever. And the reason they impose these “informed consent” laws on women seeking abortions and no other medical procedures is…because they can.
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July 27, 2012 at 8:50 am
What is lacking is a campaign to reveal the so-called “pro-life” movement as a collection of people who are trying to fill their own psychological needs by making others suffer. Once they are exposed for the nut jobs they are, the movement will go the way of the Copperheads and the Millerites.
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July 27, 2012 at 5:40 pm
What is lacking is a campaign to reveal the so-called “pro-choice” movement as a collection of people who are trying to fill their own psychological needs by making others suffer. Once they are exposed for the nut jobs they are, the movement will go the way of American Slavery and National Socialism German Style (that’s Nazism. AI’s).
Never go, Chuck. You give me my best words. I mean who ever heard of the Millerites, but they’ve all heard of the Nazis.
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July 28, 2012 at 7:26 pm
Unlike so-called “pro-lifers,” “pro-choicers” do their utmost to raise to adulthood every “unborn human” they want “rescued.” Which group really cares for human life?
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July 29, 2012 at 3:47 am
Why do you put quotation marks around “pro-choicers”?
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July 29, 2012 at 8:00 am
Because like the so-called “pro-lifers,” they are misnamed. They actually raise to adulthood every child they want born, which proves that they are truly pro-life. Therefore, calling them “pro-choice” is a misnomer. People who at present style themselves “pro-lifers” are actually centered on abortion, hence properly called aborticentrics.
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July 29, 2012 at 8:33 am
Good answer. Too bad you’re marching to your own drummer.
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April 29, 2014 at 10:00 am
That’s going to make things a lot easier from here on out.
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July 26, 2012 at 8:00 pm
Dear Observer,
My associates in SD are appalled. But it’s par for the course.
Here’s where prolife numnuts get it wrong:
A study published in February in Obstetrics and Gynecology drawing on CDC data and Guttmacher Institute surveys concludes, “The pregnancy-associated mortality rate among women who delivered live neonates was 8.8 deaths per 100,000 live births. The mortality rate related to induced abortion was 0.6 deaths per 100,000 abortions.”
Why aren’t the deaths of women who die from childbirth investigated and put on the front page?
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July 27, 2012 at 3:35 am
“Neonates”! Yes, that’s what they’ll call them when Kate and her henchladies focus their weapons on the older kids. Remember how they turned fetus into a curse word — “friends of the fetus, tee hee”? Wait for “numnuts for the neonates.” I give it three years into the chief killers’ helpers second term.
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July 27, 2012 at 1:08 pm
So, folks, what’s your take on ending an ectopic pregnancy? Is it an abortion or is it removing the damaged fallopian tube? Why?
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July 27, 2012 at 5:43 pm
It’s removing a damaged fallopian tube. The reason is intention. You are intending to remove an organ that would otherwise kill you. You are not intending to torture someone else to death.
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July 27, 2012 at 7:27 pm
BS, John. What you are removing is the product of conception. The fallopian tube did nothing to cause the emergency. It was the POC. Hence, the intention is to remove the offending matter and tissue damaged by this intrusion. Otherwise known as an abortion, it’s just not an in situ abortion, as in uterine abortion.
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July 28, 2012 at 7:28 pm
Rick Santorum’s wife had an abortion, but calls it an induced pregnancy. When somebody challenged Santorum why it wasn’t an abortion (it fit all the criteria), he said, “Because I say so!”
Being so-called “pro-life” means being as elastic with the truth as you need to be….
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July 29, 2012 at 3:53 am
We’re all products of conception. Why do you call only those you want to help kill that? They are also little boys and girls. Change your terms and see what happens.
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July 29, 2012 at 10:17 am
Most ectopics are treated by Methotrexate.
Methotrexate directly attacks and kills the pregnancy, without harming the tube.
It appears Dunkle is again totally misinformed on the topic that he so firmly believes in and makes wild opinions that do not relate to reality..
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July 30, 2012 at 8:09 am
Thanks for your input Gina!
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July 30, 2012 at 11:12 am
G, no one attacks and kills a pregnancy because the word refers to a condition, not a being, and you can only kill an animate being, in this case a human being.
If you’re right about methotrexate, I’ll have top ask the Church what’s the story. The Church always knows.
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February 7, 2014 at 9:11 pm
Unleralpelad accuracy, unequivocal clarity, and undeniable importance!
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July 27, 2012 at 3:48 pm
I’m not really clear why doctors need to tell women about the alleged harms of abortion (which there are relatively few). We can thank the anti abortion minions for all the work they do to tell women about affects of abortion (which are lies, of course).
And if suicide is a potential side effect to abortion, shouldn’t we expect the legislators to mandate that doctors warn women of the very real potential for post partum depression, suicide homocidal thoughts about killing or harming their children?
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July 27, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Goes right into my newsletter. Let the killers’ helpers talk. No way this holocaust will survive that.
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July 27, 2012 at 4:32 pm
If the government mandates that an MD tell a woman that “abortion may have side effects such as ABORTION”….then should they also tell service personal before they enlist that “suicide is a side effect of the military”?!?! (in fact I think the numbers may be higher!!)
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July 27, 2012 at 4:57 pm
Damn straight. Military service may lead to suicide. It’s a fact Jack. [unlike the abortion fairy tale]
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July 27, 2012 at 5:47 pm
Yeah, sure, let’s do both.
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July 28, 2012 at 11:16 am
Today at the clinic, the radio obliterated all the obnoxious bullhorn messages from the Loser Cruisers lurking on the streets. Worked like a charm. Guess they’ll have to try some other way to be annoying. They sure as hell are not effective. But, hey, they keep trying.
What was that saying Einstein used? Something about the definition of insanity is trying the same thing over and over and expecting different results? Yeah. That’s it.
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July 28, 2012 at 7:20 pm
You said that last year, Kate, and the year before, and . . .
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July 29, 2012 at 11:02 am
But I’m not expecting results like you and your like-minded friends.
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July 28, 2012 at 6:08 pm
Do you think that they even have sense? the pro-lifer’s i mean. To really make another holocaust connection? really dunkle? do you honestly believe that this is a good substantiation of abortion as a whole?
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July 29, 2012 at 4:12 am
Since all evangelical traditions claim that converting others is an act of love which witnesses the truth of their tradition, they should ask if those toward who they are proselytizing if they experience it as actions of loving. If they do not, then they will have found the limits of what they ought to be doing. Anything more and they are no longer educating or witnessing, but propagandizing and harassing.This is where the prolifers exist, in the realm of propagandizing and harassing. They’ve lost sight of their faith and turned to an idol called the fetus.
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July 29, 2012 at 7:57 am
It might be simpler than that, bloggingfem. Like Mormon missionaries, the reason they seek converts is to convince themselves that the claptrap they believe must be true because they’ve gotten somebody else to believe it.
“If one person believes something irrational to be true, he’s called crazy. If forty million people believe it, they’re called religious.”
–Richard Dawkins
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July 29, 2012 at 9:20 am
Good one, Charles.
“The only difference between a cult and a religion is the amount of real estate they own” -Frank Zappa
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February 9, 2014 at 4:31 am
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April 22, 2014 at 7:10 am
That’s a nicely made answer to a challenging question
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July 29, 2012 at 12:17 pm
Fix these and talk straight, goldangit:
“do you honestly believe that this is a good substantiation of abortion as a whole?”
“. . .they should ask if those their proselytizing is experienced as actions of loving.”
This is hardly better. How ’bout letting me do it for you.
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July 29, 2012 at 12:19 pm
And as for you, Chuck, don’t back up a stupidity with a cliche.
The reason believers seek converts is, first, that Jesus ordered it — other ignoramuses besides you have believed the New Testament is claptrap. You don’t have to hide that belief by attacking personally those who hold it.
And, second, that’s human nature. Haven’t you been trying now for seven years to get others to buy into your “philosophy” of
abortiselincrentisml?
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July 30, 2012 at 8:25 am
Litany of Names given to Pro-Lifers. If I have missed any please chime in.
Wing Nuts
Lunatics
Wimps
Public Nusiances Comedy Acts
Wonky minds Nut Jobs
Copperheads Millerites
Numnuts Moronic Anti Aborts
Goofballs Loser Cruisers
Extremists Senseless
Wild Imaginations Sir Spamalot
Linebacker Pan Face
Overinflated egos Lazy
Dweebs Hyprocrites
Attention Seekers Misogynists
Terrorists Emotional Cripples
Bertha Bigbutt Retarded
Lemmings Rabid Animals
Johnny Rockets in the Pocket
Walrus Jihadists
Disgusting God Worshipers
Gruesome Liers
We really would like to know exactly how you feel about us. The above list just doesn’t do it!!!!
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July 30, 2012 at 10:26 am
Somebody wallowing around in a big old pile of nasty mood?
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July 30, 2012 at 10:55 am
Anonymous+ : Ah, to have to suffer under all those epithets! Another cross the self-proclaimed “pro-lifer” has to bear.
How many children are you raising that you don’t want to? I have always wondered why, when they are so passionate about human life, self-proclaimed “pro-lifers” don’t raise children that they don’t want to, while the “pro-choicers” raise every child they “rescue” from abortion.
It seems to me that to get even with those “pro-choicers” you would show them how it’s done and raise a child you’re not ready for or that you don’t like or that forces you to choose the path in life you never wanted to take.
But you don’t! Why not?
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July 30, 2012 at 11:01 am
Or, we could say to the suffering cross bearer, “Why not come off the cross? We need the wood.”
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July 30, 2012 at 11:14 am
And you sincerely believe that Jesus cursed a fig tree, but refuse to believe what happens to children in real life, as was described in the story about the Baby Store? Very interesting, Mr. Dunkle.
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July 30, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Jesus cursed a fig tree — yes
I refuse to believe what happens to children in real life — no
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July 30, 2012 at 1:04 pm
bloggingfem Says:
July 30, 2012 at 11:01 am
Or, we could say to the suffering cross bearer, “Why not come off the cross? We need the wood.”
What, pray tell, do you need the wood for? To make yourself a new broom?? giggle giggle
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July 30, 2012 at 1:35 pm
Oh, Ms Mondok, you’re so witty.
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July 30, 2012 at 1:48 pm
Since Mr. Dunkle states that he does not “refuse to believe what children experience in real life,” he will now tell us about feral children: the behaviors they display, the reason why their behaviors are not on a par with human behaviors and what is needed to prevent other children from growing up to suffer like they do.
He will then deliver his opinion as to whether it is better that one die and sixty-one live or that one live and sixty-one die; i.e., the Bundy perplexity, a philosophical problem long avoided by his lessors in the self-proclaimed “pro-life” movement.
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July 30, 2012 at 2:51 pm
as they do
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July 30, 2012 at 5:34 pm
Nah, he won’t tell youse nuttin’ cept grammar cuz he be wicked smart
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July 30, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Some anonymous + (not sure what the plus denotes) poster whined about names that ‘prolifers’ aka, anti abortion activists, have been called. I don’t have an extensive list but recall names that these whiners call clinic staff, clinic volunteers, and clinic clients. The names they use for those who opposed their thinking are likely drawn from the repertoire of a myopic mindset influence by essentialism, homophobia, racism, sexism, misogyny, patriarchy and religiosity. I’m recalling a few labels like:
*murderer
*Satan’s bride
*Lucifer’s handmaiden
*liar
*stiff necked Jew
*lesbian
*selfish
*faggot
*phony
*Satan
But the difference between the anti abortion folks and the prochoice folks, is that we aren’t wounded by the verbal barbs. We’re stronger than the hate that flows from these folks.
From my perspective, the folks who claim to be prolifers are miserable, small-minded people who need to feel big by filing frivolous lawsuits, by whining about name calling, by calling the police because they imagine “their” rights are being violated while they disregard the rights of women, by complaining to the Human Rights Commission that people say things on blogs or outside abortion clinics about them they don’t like.
My advice. Grow a pair.
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July 31, 2012 at 6:26 am
You can ask Joyce about this faggot term she used against the escort named Jessie. She apologized later then demanded (yes,demanded) he accept her apology.
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July 31, 2012 at 7:28 am
She apologized? Wow! Jimmy didn’t.
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July 31, 2012 at 12:50 pm
Whoa Nellie. All of the barbs I stated came from this blog. You can find them if you so choose. The ones you have posted are no where to be found in black and white. I for one don’t believe they were said. I read the Dunk’s post about Jimmy, Kates husband also. He was referring to a young man in the group and did refer to him as gay. Pot calling the kettle black. So if you can find any slurs please do post them. I am waiting in the wings, in the mean time I shall try to grow a pair of —– as you suggested. Exactly what does it take to do that?????
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August 1, 2012 at 10:54 am
Maybe not in black & white but definitely in living color
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August 1, 2012 at 2:32 pm
How would you know? The radio stops your hearing. (But remember — I read lips.)
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July 30, 2012 at 8:55 pm
I never heard, or heard about, any of us say those things, Kate (well, maybe “selfish”). The only one I heard about was faggot. They told me your husband Jimmy said that about one of us. Who’s lying?
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July 31, 2012 at 5:40 pm
But Tiller KILLS a 19 year old woman and bloggingfem basically says it’s old history yet she drags up the ‘gay boy’ comment ad nauseum. Yes, for the record old Jimmy R. did call NK a fag and NO Jimmy didn’t have the b a _ _ s to apologize. Man, Kate, get your priorities in order.
I hope you will accept my apology – yeah, – real demanding but then again consider the source.
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August 1, 2012 at 1:24 pm
Hey bloggingfem – don’t forget to have Jimmy take you to Chick-fil-A tonight for dinner! (giggle giggle)
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August 1, 2012 at 2:30 pm
My wife and I went to the one in Exeter today at 11 a.m. Neither of us had ever been before been to Chick-fil-A. A madhouse! Thirty cars on the drive-up. A line stretching twenty yards out the front door. All seating occupied. We left at 11:30 as the lunch crowd was arriving!
Here’s the sad part. Across the drive, about a dozen girls stood with signs. I saw “lesbian” so I knew they were protesters. When I got close I saw the purple and orange streaked hair, and the age. My God, they were 12 and 13 years old!
I asked the first one who’s in charge and she pointed to several women and one man standing behind them. I walked up to the first lady and asked, “Are they h,h,h uh les, le?” She laughed, and said, “Are they gay?” I said yeah, that’s it. She said some were, some weren’t, and some haven’t yet made up their minds. I smiled, left, and the guy said, thanks for stopping.
I hear lesbians are going to hold kiss-ins Friday as a counter protest. My wife says they should close except for the drive-up window. I say that protest will not occur. But I’ll be there for my second trip to the greatest business in the USA.
Now I know. Obama is outta here. The radicals have gone too far and
America is rising up in protest.
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August 1, 2012 at 2:35 pm
Is “rising up” really necessary? Isn’t it redundant?
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August 1, 2012 at 5:55 pm
I watched part of the news (I never watch news) because I heard Chick-Fil-A. What they report and what I experienced were 180 apart. They had some guy saying that businesses should not get involved in controversial topics (sodomy here). The media is powerful (why did we ever stop executing the messenger?) and in the long ruin they might win out. But in the short run they reported that an outrageous lie is true.
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February 9, 2014 at 12:46 am
I think its the energy that is free to be used (unlike chmcaeil energy, kinetic energy, etc.) and I’m pretty sure when you use it some of it is converted into heat energy
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August 4, 2012 at 11:31 am
Tying a national brand to aging white bigots is not a winning strategy – and the numbers prove it. Executives. directors and managers of American corporations take note: If your company is playing footsie with right-wing ideologues it can harm your company and your career. People are seriously fed up with companies that support and fund these right wingers, and brand-equity tracking surveys prove it.
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August 4, 2012 at 12:43 pm
Come to your ownconclusions:
The normals call for us to support a normal business, and a million show up to support it.
The pervs call for them to support a perverted activity to protest that normal business, and no one shows up.
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February 10, 2014 at 7:44 pm
I love reading these articles because they’re short but inafvmotire.
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February 7, 2014 at 9:46 pm
That’s what we’ve all been waiting for! Great pogntis!
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August 2, 2012 at 9:59 am
The American right screamed loud and long about Vanessa Redgrave’s socialist opinions and her continued employment as an actress. I was happy to see that society respected her right to have opinions separate from her employment, and I support the right of any homophobe to voice and act upon his opinions– is his name really Jon Cathy? Ironic…
As for the demonstrators encountered: a demonstration of any sort is at best a form of art therapy, often better for the participant’s emotional growth than the public’s education.
The LGBT population seems statistically to be living at the edge– they have a higher rate of substance abuse and suicide than the general population. Which is not to condemn them; it’s like pointing out that all those happy, shucking and jiving Negroes who used to “yes, massa” us all the time had blood pressure levels through the roof, even though they told us they were happy on the plantation.
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August 2, 2012 at 10:44 am
I don’t think the American right screamed nearly so loud as the pro-Israels. Her being employed even after that is the surprising fact.
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April 26, 2013 at 8:49 am
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April 26, 2013 at 8:56 am
Not exactly sure what you’re offereing, Bryan, but thanks for the nice comments!
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