Malachi is undoubtedly the prolife industry’s Hallmark icon. Named Malachi, the story goes, to be a messenger about abortion, his image actually reveals much more than just a sentimental message.
Depending on the source, Malachi was found either in the garbage or in a freezer of a Dallas, Texas abortion clinic in 1993. The more popular story claims that the fetus was found in the abortion clinic’s freezer, packed in a jar with two (or three, depending on the story) other fetal bodies. The fetal remains depict an intact trunk with arms, a head and two detached legs. Configured like a gross morphology specimen in a laboratory, the body is positioned at a slight diagonal in the background while a tape measure parallels the bottom of the image (in the foreground). The text in the bottom of the frame announces the image as “Abortion at 21 weeks” without any medical or forensic verification. While it is unclear whether the tape measure is a U.S. or metric measure, the fetal crown to rump length measures approximately 15 units. The information provided in this image runs counter to standard medical information that establishes the crown to rump length (CRL) for a 21-week fetus is on average 17. 75 cm (6.98 inches). Despite the image’s questionable accuracy of the CRL and gestational age, it provides no further information except the claim that it represents a 21-week gestation abortion. Nor does it confirm that all the body parts belong together. The ubiquitous narrative from numerous prolife organizations states that the fetus was named Malachi because it means “messenger” and, though voiceless, would speak the truth about abortion to the world. Given to the world as a messenger about abortion, one could see how this 20th century “resurrection of the dead” reveals more about those who would disseminate this image.
In particular, there are many inconsistencies. According to the Priests for Life’s web site, Malachi was “found frozen in a jar” along with other fetuses in a Dallas, Texas abortion clinic in 1993. Common sense suggests that if Malachi was a 21 week fetus, his parts would not fit into a jar, let alone additional bodies, nor would a jar (assuming it’s glass) withstand freezing if it was packed. The Pro-Life Action league’s web site states that they “found his body in the garbage behind an abortion facility.” Offering more and differing details about the abortion clinic, Mary Brown’s site states that Malachi “was taken from a jar that was inside of the North Dallas Women’s Clinic in the Central Square Office Building” (bellsouthpwp). According to Operation Save America and Priests for Life, an obstetrician and gynecologist named Dr. J. Patrick McCarty (now deceased), reassembled the fetal parts, estimated Malachi to be approximately 21 weeks at the time of death but did not provide a definitive cause of death. From one narrative, a Methodist minister (and no medical expert) and Director of Operation Save America, Flip Benham, declared the fetus was delivered by forceps and was clearly an abortion. The source of his knowledge of a forceps delivery and later term abortions lacks any medical validity. Of all the potential complications that could result in a spontaneous abortion, none were mentioned. The realities of a spontaneous abortion or miscarriage include fetal demise due to fetal structural or chromosomal anomalies or the result of an aberration within a twin or multiple pregnancy, to name a few potential causes. Yet, Rev. Benham is certain that the fetus died as a result of a forceps-delivered abortion.
The photograph, attributed to a Marco Medinain 1993, was rapidly transformed into a global icon, seemingly incorporated into the logic of prolife politics. It was circulated and distributed as a commodity for political gain, for selling stories, pamphlets and posters. However, it seems worthy to note the irony of the occasion. The individuals who discovered the fetal remains in the Dallas abortion clinic were people of faith, people who espoused the sacredness of all human life. Yet, their disrespect for the sacredness of fetal remains they called Malachi became fodder for widespread circulation and consumption.
Over time, the image has appeared with different colorations as freshly bloodied or as a cool gray cadaver devoid of any
color, differences that suggest photo manipulation. Its ubiquity, while not so remarkable considering the ease of digital duplication, can be found on prolife websites and in their literature. The larger-than-life image is displayed on the sides of trucks, vehicles they call Truth Trucks, on posters and on vinyl banners hung around activists’ necks. The activists present these images to the converted, to the women they hope will turn away from abortion and to innocent bystanders including very young children.
Prolife organizations (such as Priests for Life, Human Life International, Operation Rescue, American Life League and National Right to Life) promote and distribute materials with Malachi based on the belief that “America will not reject abortion until America sees abortion.”
Malachi was so named to be a messenger for the prolife industry. The presumption, according to the folks over at Priests for Life, is that Malachi is an “name that strikes terror in the hearts of those who kill children, for they know that this child, more than anything else, reveals the incredible horror of what abortion really is” (Priests for Life). What the prolife industry, including their curbside minions, fail to acknowledge is:
- the remains of a human being should have been buried with respect and without publicity
- the veracity of the image, while certainly questionable, becomes ethically challenged when activists use it indiscriminately and ignorantly as a bludgeoned tool
- the image of the fetus (or the parts that allegedly represent this fetus) should not be made into a commodity for anti abortion publishing houses, self-assured, greedy priests who solicit for funds so they can hob nob at banquets and political events, or for curbside protesters who copy and paste the image indiscriminately
- there are only anecdotes about the effectiveness of the Malachi image. There is no concrete evidence. Yet, like those who operate on faith, those who promulgate the image believe in its efficacy despite the lack of evidence.
American has seen this image over and over for the past ten years. And guess what? We’re still a nation that says abortion is legal. We’re still a nation that is prochoice. Antiabortion activists are forever crying about the dignity of the unborn yet flaunt images of dead bodies as if they weren’t sacred human beings. Well, it’s about time we cry foul on the anti abortion industry and demand that they take a closer look at their own despicable habit of profiting from images of the dead while simultaneously disgracing the dead.

September 19, 2012 at 7:48 pm
Typical Anti ABortion bullshit.
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September 19, 2012 at 8:03 pm
Very good points about the unethical use of human remains to further political causes. Especially when they don’t know the details.
It’s typical anti-abortion crap – fear mongering, shaming, guilt-tripping, and they don’t even have the decency to provide real, truthful information to women to make an informed decision. Yet, the pro-choice and abortion providers DO.
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September 20, 2012 at 6:27 am
What seems to make this particular image so grievous, beyond the points already mentioned, is that they use this near term fetal image as an image that represents all abortions and they do so with the intent of shaming and judging women. In research on uses of the grotesque in social movements, scholars found weaknesses for activists. Grotesque images often produce disgust. In my research that parallels that of researchers before me, the grotesque such as Malachi violate norms of public discourse. The activists are tainted by the monstrous transgression they decry. The public often accuse them of indecency. Malachi draws the disturbed lunatic fringe in the antiabortion community, a faction that many antiabortion activists would rather avoid.
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September 20, 2012 at 5:55 pm
I’m am sick of the Anti Abortion retards that will be voting in our country!
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September 20, 2012 at 5:56 pm
Great point Amanda! Thanks for chiming in!
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September 22, 2012 at 11:20 am
I agree with Amanda, the anti abortionists are full of it. The only reliable source of information is people that believe in choice!
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September 20, 2012 at 8:00 am
Unfortunately, this whole piece, forcefully logical as it is, only fights the war on the so-called “pro-lifers’ ” turf, reinforcing their message that abortion kills babies.
Until we set the terms of the debate, we fight on a rigged board. The core of the argument is that the whole movement is a dysfunctional self-help program in which the members dissociate the need to care for human life from the existence of a fetus. They are harmful to women, parents and families, and cruelly neglectful of children.
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September 20, 2012 at 8:48 am
Here’s yet another despicable action from anti abortion zealots
http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/video/2012/09/20/racist-abortion-posters-placed-around-new-mexico-school-target-native-americans
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September 20, 2012 at 5:56 pm
Anti Abortion protestors are literally cretins!
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September 22, 2012 at 11:21 am
I’m sick of ProLifer anti women bullshit!
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September 20, 2012 at 9:28 am
Well, Im gonna piss off some folks…Sure, the picture can/has been be manipulated. Sure, there are some inaccuracies, things taken out of context, blah, blah. And there are various stories about where this came from. But all of that still does not discount the fact that when you talk about those (rare) late second trimester abortions, that fetus that, yes, is dismembered, if rather developed physicially. Sure, it might not be able to live on it’s own but, face facts pro-choicers, those late term abortions are very difficult matters. This is an issue that the pro-choice movement has to face at some point.
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September 20, 2012 at 5:45 pm
Check Tiller’s records (the famous late term abortionist) to see just how rare these horrific abortions were/are. By all accounts, he died a very rich man dismembering babies.
Face it Kate certain things really stick in your craw and strike a nerve with you and Malachi is one of them. Try as you may to discount it time and time again images such as Malachi really bug the crap out of you. Honestly, you’re like a broken record harping on the veracity of Malachi spewing out the same sordid “facts” in article after article. I think it’s time you ask yourself honestly – Why am I so freaked out by Malachi and other aborted images of pre-born babies of his gestational age? Perhaps deep down, even you Kate, find these late term abortions repulsive. Go down the hall to Psych. 101 and ask the prof there for his/her opinion.
Glad to hear (once again) Pat that you are conflicted in this regard. Perhaps there’s some hope for you.
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September 20, 2012 at 5:58 pm
YF, you clearly suffer from ascertainment bias, and a lack of understanding the most basic ways to understand information . . .
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September 21, 2012 at 7:08 am
Perhaps you should consider why you so vehemently defend the unethical and immoral use of such an image? You seem to think 1) I have a craw (whatever that is) and 2) the image is stuck there. The image does not bother me. That’s a point you fail to comprehend. The image, used as a bludgeoned tool against women is what bothers me. And that’s the point you have overlooked in favor of speculations.
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September 22, 2012 at 11:22 am
“Friend” is a moron.
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September 25, 2012 at 8:18 am
So, Your Friend, tell us what you’ve done to nurture a child that you insisted be born. This is a field in which even the most fervent so-called “pro-lifers” are markedly deficient.
Why is there such a great gap between what you profess and what you actually do?
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September 23, 2012 at 10:12 pm
There have been thousands of dead babies found, similar to “Malachi”. Read Monica Miller’s new book and weep.
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September 25, 2012 at 8:20 am
How much do you really love babies? How many are you raising that you never wanted to?
It’s one thing to wax romantic about pregnancy and quite another to care for human life rather than merely care about it….
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September 29, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Monica Migliore Miller? The so-called “pro-lifer” who got nailed in Milwaukee back in the Nineties for leaving her baby unattended in a closed car on a hot day? The quintessence of the dysfunctional self-help movement– focus on the fetus, ignore the child.
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September 20, 2012 at 5:59 pm
Once again Anti Abortion “Pro Lifers” prove that they have no ability to think clearly . . .
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September 20, 2012 at 6:06 pm
For the record – the Malachi image is responsible for saving lives. Yes that’s right children are alive today because their mother’s saw that image and decided they didn’t want that to happen to their child. Praise be to God!!
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September 20, 2012 at 6:52 pm
Which of the Mythical Sky Gods do you worship and sacrifice to?
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September 21, 2012 at 5:38 am
What record?
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September 22, 2012 at 11:24 am
Yes friend, are you too lacking in facts to actually show the “record.”
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September 22, 2012 at 2:51 pm
There are no records, only delusional thinking. If there were actual records, these antiabortion numnuts would first double or triple the number then brag.
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September 25, 2012 at 8:21 am
Tecd Bundy thanks you, Your Friend. His sixty-one victims don’t.
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September 20, 2012 at 6:41 pm
bloggingfem Says:
September 20, 2012 at 6:27 am
What seems to make this particular image so grievous, beyond the points already mentioned, is that they use this near term fetal image as an image that represents all abortions and they do so with the intent of shaming and judging women. . . . . Grotesque images often produce disgust. . . . . , ,
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What Kate really means: What makes this image so grievous is that it cuts me to the core every time I see it or even think about it. It haunts me day and night hence my obsession to try and discount it I ask myself if an image as horrific as Malachi can’t soften and convert my heart – what will it take? I fear that the image rather than shaming or judging women, may cause them to (egad and alas) change their minds from having an abortion to actually giving birth to their children as I’ll go to my grave fighting for abortion on demand no apology. Grotesque images often produce disgust yes but they also have been productively used to fight the injustice that the images represent. As the saying goes, “A picture is worth a thousand words.”
Children are alive today because of that image. If you are so hardened Kate that you can’t be happy that women upon seeing that photo CHOOSE LIFE, then you are indeed a lost soul. You know how you pro deathers say “If you don’t like abortion then don’t have one.” Right back at ya!! If Malachi is so upsetting for you to look at, then don’t look at it – avert your eyes!!
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September 21, 2012 at 5:39 am
Busy with assumptions again.
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September 21, 2012 at 5:31 am
I suggest you read from other sources about real women who made tortured decisions about late term pregnancies. Here’s one article.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/a-true-picture-of-the-women-who-face-late-term-abortion/2012/07/27/gJQAxSCjEX_story.html
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September 21, 2012 at 5:36 am
And a couple more stories—not about money that a doctor made or about selfish women, but about real women with real babies that they wanted and things went wrong
http://scatx.com/2011/03/14/back-the-fuck-off-one-womans-abortion-story-and-why-politicians-need-to-leave-women-alone/
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/07/late-term-abortion-29-weeks-dana-weinstein
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September 21, 2012 at 6:00 am
Antiabortion zealots and the mainstream media has cast Dr. Tiller as a “controversial late-term abortion provider,” which is technically accurate. But those late-term abortions he provided were for women in desperate and often tragic situations — women with health complications that made pregnancy dangerous, or women whose much-wanted pregnancies took a turn for the worst. Anti-choicers have latched onto the fact that Tiller’s clinic provided funeral services — if that’s the case, they point out, how is it not clear that Dr. Tiller was killing? In fact, those services were part of the healing process for many families who came to Dr. Tiller in one of the darkest moments of their lives, and who were making unthinkably difficult choices. It’s a tragedy that Dr. Tiller was one of only three physicians providing the late-term therapeutic abortion services that he did. It’s shameful that anti-choicers cast him as a “murderer” for helping women in need. I’ll say it again: The responsibility for George Tiller’s death surely falls on the shoulders of the person who actually pulled the trigger. But when pro-life groups did everything but give him a gun, their hands are hardly clean.
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September 21, 2012 at 8:06 am
For those who make judgments about women who terminate their wanted pregnancies, about doctors and nurses who care for them, and about advocates who speak up for women, let me invite you to read:
http://www.aheartbreakingchoice.com
I only hope that someone you love does not have to make a heartbreaking choice.
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September 22, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Don’t waste your time showing them evidence. Your Friend and others don’t want facts to get in their way….
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September 22, 2012 at 3:49 pm
You are kind of right and kind of wrong parker. You have to think that some people base their ideology on what Carl Rodgers called, “unconditional positive regard,” a sensibility for any man or woman to make the change in their lives to become a productive human being to society.
Even in a paraphrase you can understand where I’m headed.
They may be frustrating, but they think of us in the same way “you can’t justify a killing.” -even one that does not look, resemble or can even be considered a human-
But although most pro lifers are men and we can say they should not even have a say in women rights.
Although, there are crazed, sexless, women who have already had children and their menopausal response diminish any chance of a child being born to them- so in turn they feel like since they lead a certain kind of life that everyone else in the world should follow suit, they are wrong,
Even I can not give a regard to them.
So this is a callout to each person who sits on their high-horse, thinking in this way to come here to tell me what im doing wrong, I beg you let me know why I’m thinking wrong. please do let me know…
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September 22, 2012 at 9:33 am
Love the show of solidarity today, waddling and wallowing in the grotesque. Nice job.
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September 23, 2012 at 3:53 am
I’m back folks. Before I get to your comments, allow me to read and respond to Kate.
Kate’s plagiarizing here. She got it from Simon Legree who wrote this in 1852:
“Y’ll abolutids are lying motha f______. The n____ on that picture you’re passing aroun’ looks like a white man, straight hair, pointy nose, light skin! Our n_____ don’t look like that!. Why y’all tellin’ lies? Mind y’own f_____ business. Leave us be. We got rights too, ya know.”
If Simon has descendants, they could probably sue! Now let’s take a look at what you AI’s and others have to say.
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September 23, 2012 at 3:56 am
OK, read your comments. Pat has a perceptive one, as usual. Kate fills the space with rhetoric, as usual, and go to’s, as usual, and you AI’s write your usual crap; e.g., “I’m sick of ProLife anti women bullshit!”
Then I see”Your Friend”! Makes me want to leave this blog entirely because when I go, my betters move in. I just wish to heck you AI’s could read.
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September 23, 2012 at 3:25 pm
Dunkle is a fungible commodity, replaceable by any other hyper religious anti abortion zealot. No original thought at all. The same Catholic regurgitated Catholic Cult Crap.
Fortunately the elderly of his generation are dying of natural causes, and within a generation will be gone.
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September 23, 2012 at 6:06 pm
I’m pleased to say that many high school and college student, female and male, are prochoice. As for the older generation, my mother is prochoice. She sees what these fungible commodities are like and wants no part of them. And when you look at older women specifically, you’ll find millions who are prochoice and who will vote in November.
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September 23, 2012 at 7:40 pm
I’m not a fungible commodity! What the hell is a fungible commodity?
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September 23, 2012 at 7:51 pm
If you are a legitimate degree-holding ex-teacher (to which there are no public affirmations of your claims), then you would know the answer. Instead, you are a desperate, perverted attention whore.
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September 24, 2012 at 3:58 am
“. . . a desperate, perverted attention whore”! — I’m anxious, not desperate.
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September 24, 2012 at 4:33 pm
Thanks for the info. I’ll keep your mom in prayer as well. What about your dad? Should I pray for him too?
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September 24, 2012 at 4:47 pm
Oooo YF, getting close to the bone here.
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September 26, 2012 at 10:33 am
Pray all you want. It’s a free country. What about my dad do you want to know? That he was prochoice but that he’s deader than a doornail? Does that answer your question? I’ll tell you straight, if you told him that you’d pray for him, he’d respond rather rudely about what you can do with your prayers and where you can stuff them. Not one to believe in all the mythical sky god stuff. He saw too many hypocrites in his life.
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September 26, 2012 at 12:31 pm
OK, Kate. Stop right there. Or soon we’ll learn more than we want to know.
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September 26, 2012 at 4:39 pm
kind of late to say stop right there since I already stopped. It’s called a period, full stop, etc. Duh.
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September 25, 2012 at 8:26 am
Liz, re: “fungible commodity:” As long as children are raised in rigidly paternalistic households, they are liable to grow up with the authoritarian mindset which will predispose them to hate the notion of women having control over their lives and the number of children that they want to raise. For them, the attraction of the so-called “pro-life” movement will allow them to work out the issues they suffered in their childhood. The dysfunctional self-help movement will not disappear for those who refuse the risks of therapy.
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September 28, 2012 at 12:38 pm
If respect for the dead is called for–why do you advocate the violent taking of their lives to begin with? I mean, they are dead……people, right?
If their bodies are sacred why do advocate for their destruction without their consent?
And if they are 7 inches long at 21 weeks, how can you imagine they could be extracted through an undialated cervix intact?
You make some of the best arguments against abortion I’ve ever heard from one who identifies as pro-choice! It seems your heart understands the need for dignity after the fact–why refuse to give it before?
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September 28, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Are you serious? Respect for the woman’s body comes first. If the fetus is not wanted, respect must be shown to the woman first and to the dead fetus second and not parade it’s body all over the internet. Fetuses don’t give consent, in case you haven’t learned that lesson.
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September 28, 2012 at 2:22 pm
Sorry, maybe you answered, but help me out, Do the dead bodies belong to people? You’re calling for “respect for the dead”. Dead…..what? People? Cuz if a fetus isn’t a person there’s no reason to argue for respect whatsoever.
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September 28, 2012 at 2:31 pm
Kim, are you trolling for new material for your blog?
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September 28, 2012 at 2:34 pm
Trying to follow your logic. But thanks for checking me out.
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September 28, 2012 at 2:40 pm
My background is in critical theory, especially the use of visual images in social movements. The use of grotesque imagery is quite old in social movements, effective for the converted but more often than not offensive, ineffective for others. My perspective on the use of grotesque imagery is that any dead body, whether it’s a dog or a fetus or a horse or an adult soldier deserves to be buried in peace and not used as some consumer commodity like many in the prolife movement do. As to who the body belongs to, that’s a contextual question that I cannot answer.
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September 28, 2012 at 2:43 pm
Fascinating. So may I also assume your ethics are against harming dogs and horses and adult soldiers?
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September 28, 2012 at 3:11 pm
Among other creatures. And before you ask, I’ll tell you straight out that I am prochoice. A non sentient fetus has less status in my ethical view of the world than a dog or horse. But that’s my ethics. I join other feminists who believe in abortion on demand without apology.
What other women choose to do remains within their realm of control. But I’m also against soldiers killing innocent children and women in countries we invade or our government effectively killing black men with their American gulag or our government practices of capital punishment.
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September 28, 2012 at 3:15 pm
Got it. So sentient creatures demand respect, and dead fetuses deserve respect, but fetuses before they are born can be discarded–but just do it respectfully. Right?
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September 28, 2012 at 4:15 pm
Not quite. Your sarcasm is thinly veiled. Some women who choose abortion respect their fetus. Some even love them. But the time for a child is not right, the fetus has an anomaly, the woman has no money, no desire to be pregnant, no desire to have another child. So does the woman discard the fetus? No, she pays someone to do that just like we pay surgeons to remove our appendix or tonsils. Surgeons don’t photograph surgically excised tissue and flaunt it in public. Gynecologists who perform abortions don’t flaunt fetal images in public.
Rather than view a fetus a gift from god, which it is not (it’s a product of conception between a man and a woman), all women recognize the potential of the fetus, recognize it as human but simply do not want the fetus.
The whole respect thing is my perspective about grotesque imagery, especially in a public setting. And let’s be realist, a dog or horse cannot ‘demand respect’ as you stated.
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September 28, 2012 at 4:34 pm
You misread me. I was not being sarcastic. I was trying to accurately capture your perspective. Am I mistaken? You are in favor of destroying the body of a fetus if a woman so desires or for medical necessity, which you deem equally ethical, because, “a non sentient fetus has less status in my ethical view of the world than a dog or horse.” But if a fetus is simply surgical waste such as a diseased tonsil or an appendix, really, what difference does it make?
By accusing me of sarcasm you are letting yourself off the hook to follow the thread of your own argument.
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September 28, 2012 at 4:40 pm
The problem with email and blogs such as this are the potential for misinterpretations. I either misread your post or you don’t like being called on your writing. Either way, I believe you’ve sufficiently copied and pasted what I wrote.
But, I do not follow your question:
But if a fetus is simply surgical waste such as a diseased tonsil or an appendix, really, what difference does it make? Difference between? Some clinics ship boxes of abortion by-products, dead fetuses, if you like, to laboratories. So I would hardly call that waste. Those by-products are useful for burn patients, research and other endeavors.
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September 28, 2012 at 4:59 pm
You compared the fetus to tonsils or an an appendix as something we pay surgeons to “remove” making it “surgical waste,” a medical term: “Any tissue, blood or mucus removed during surgery or autopsy, soiled surgical dressings, or other materials requiring special disposal procedures. (Source: UMT) Terminology source: http://www.eionet.europa.eu“. If a fetus is not a person, the designation of medical waste shouldn’t be taken as pejorative.
(Although, in your reply I’ll admit I find your valuing fetal tissue so it could be appropriated for research rather chilling.)
I just want you to explain to me how a fetus rates special treatment after death if it is not a full human being vs. being a “potential” human life before abortion?
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September 28, 2012 at 7:28 pm
BF: I said that a woman pays someone to remove the fetus from her body just like we pay surgeons to remove our appendix or tonsils. There’s absolutely no comparison other than a surgical procedure to remove something unwanted. How very disingenuous of you to make such a leap to call a fetus surgical waste, particularly since you use a source that is not recognized as legitimate medical source. Cherry picking sources don’t help your credibility.
CMH: If a fetus is not a person, the designation of medical waste shouldn’t be taken as pejorative.
BF: Since when is a fetus a person? Define a person. Define medical waste.
CMH: (Although, in your reply I’ll admit I find your valuing fetal tissue so it could be appropriated for research rather chilling.)
BF: Seriously? Can it be that you are that uninformed about how research moves forward? Spend some time in the really creepy world of biomedical research. You’re clearly a neophyte.
CMH: I just want you to explain to me how a fetus rates special treatment after death if it is not a full human being vs. being a “potential” human life before abortion?
BF: I’m not ready to deal with your naïve questions because you are not fully informed. You are a mere child.
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September 28, 2012 at 9:16 pm
Kim,
Spend some time with your tell-assertive coment: “I just want you to explain to me how a fetus rates special treatment after death if it is not a full human being vs. being a “potential” human life before abortion?”
Like so many folks like Jill Stanek, Frankie Pavone, Alveda King and others, the sense of entitlement to be so directive, as opposed to invitational, is revealing.
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September 29, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Cradlemyheart: The biggest visible problem the self-proclaimed “pro-life” movement” has is its focus on the fetus (no apologies to James Dobson) to the detriment of the child. Unless you consider the welfare of the child, it is absolutely heartless to insist on the continuation of a pregnancy, especially when it’s someone else’s. But so-called “pro-lifers” can’t bring themselves to do that.
It’s clear that the position you maintain makes you look like a hero– when your audience divorces the life of the fetus from the welfare of the child. I would be much more impressed with you if you instead were saying, “Have your baby, and I will pay whatever it takes to get him or her safely all the way to high school graduation.” Considering that is only about $380,000, I don’t see why you don’t make that offer.
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September 29, 2012 at 12:58 pm
RRTLCCA: Per your logic, if I’m not in favor of allowing people to harm or murder their toddlers I should also be willing to take them in? btw, the true abortion choice is the pregnancy help movement–and yes, they do offer material support, love and care. 1-800-712 HELP.
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September 29, 2012 at 2:48 pm
Chuck,
There is absolutely no equating an 8 wk fetus with an 18 month old toddler. Lil Missy here doessn’t think so. She’s one of ‘them’ using empty rhetoric like “true” (as if there is one Truth, with a capital T) or comparing a zygote to a five year old, etc., along the lines of Dunklemeister.
And I suspect our newbie Blondie will stick around for a while and then leave in huff because her minds is so closed she can’t see beyond her tiny god box
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September 29, 2012 at 3:10 pm
bloggingfem – despite your third-person bullying and belittleing of me, I’m not in a huff. Nor have I mentioned what I believe about God and/or truth or Truth. But to go back to the topic Chuck’s point equated an 8-week fetus with an 18 year old, and one worth 300K at that. Whose example doesn’t equate?
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September 30, 2012 at 10:58 am
So, cradlemyheart, which do you prefer– abortion or the long, slow death in life that would follow?
The “material support” the dysfunctional self-help movement offers is pitifully inadequate. Not one so-called “pro-lifer” has stepped forward to raise the child he/she does not want to raise, while one-third of American children are being raised by parents who never wanted them.
You and you alone can prevent the next Ted Bundy or Joshua Komisarovsky simply by raising an at-risk child. Instead, you and your ilk assume someone else will do it or that it’s God’s plan that 61 of Mr. Dunkle’s precious young women will be murdered.
It is a very strange mindset you have, and I wish you were able to link the status of a fetus to the future of the child. Still, you get a lot of benefit by appearing as a caring person, without actually having to show any care.
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September 30, 2012 at 3:09 pm
We agree the world is full of pain and misery. The difference is that I believe the answer is life and you think the answer is death.
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September 30, 2012 at 3:41 pm
Hey, want to know more about cradlemyheart? go to her website where she pushes the prolife agenda through god talk and through pushing her book….money, money, money
It’s another one of those first I was f*cked up abortion and now I’m f*cked up on Jesus
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September 29, 2012 at 1:01 pm
BF: My invitational style notwithstanding, you still have not answered the question which lies at the heart of your own premise. It’s not unreasonable to request for you to clarify how a fetus rates special treatment after death if it is not a full human being vs. being a “potential” human life before abortion?
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October 1, 2012 at 8:39 am
Cradlemyheart says: “We agree the world is full of pain and misery. The difference is that I believe the answer is life and you think the answer is death.”
No, I believe the answer is to care for the child that someone else doesn’t want to bear, but she can’t accept that. She cannot bring herself to believe that it is more important to care for a real child than to care about a fetus. She declares that I have a fondness for death (sort of of a counterbalance for her indifference toward the welfare of real children).
What can possibly explain this attitude?
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March 13, 2018 at 9:34 am
Your decision to berate the pro-life people for displaying an image of aborted baby parts is ludicrous. How can you possibly think that it is all right for abortion providers to cut up fetuses and not all right for opponents to reveal the parts so that people understand? I think you are lying to promote a cause – abortion on demand. Where is there any regard for the fetus or baby that feels the pain.
I worked in CA on a construction project that was held up for a good while so that a bird species in the area could mate or nest (I forget which) successfully. I noted that many people who care about protecting the life cycle of the birds in southern CA are honored and applauded for holding up someone else’s project to protect the birds’ future. I pray for the day when you have the heart to want to find a way to protect the children who also have a future if just their mothers would allow them to live. Many of us are thrilled to adopt children of all races and ethnicities.
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