I recently read that California Governor Jerry Brown (yes, he’s still alive and kicking) signed a bill into law that would allow certain non-physicians to perform abortions. Predictably, the pro-choice groups hailed the measure as an important step towards making abortions more accessible to women. The pro-life groups basically said Brown is pond scum and that he would spend all of eternity in Hell.
The pro-choice groups are excited because in many parts of the country there is a serious lack of abortion providers. A lot of the ones that entered the field years right after Roe was decided are now rather old and are close to retirement (or death). In many cases, when a doctor retires or dies it means the clinic closes because there are no replacement physicians. So, you’d think that everyone in the pro-choice movement would rally around a new law like this one.
Not so fast.
Think about this for a second. Say you run a hot dog stand on the corner of 51st Street and Lexington Avenue in midtown Manhattan. You’ve been working the same spot for 21 years. You’ve gotten to know your patrons personally and you know their order before they can spit it out. You also get used to making a certain amount of money every week and your income determines your lifestyle.
Then, one day a young whipper-snapper opens up another hot dog stand right across the street. I mean, he is right there in your field of vision and you can’t ignore how many people are now patronizing his business. You can practically count how many customers you’re losing to the competition and pretty soon your income decreases and your way of life is affected.
So, although the pro-choice groups are applauding the action of Governor Brown, some of the doctors and owners of abortion clinics in California are undoubtedly watching things with a wary eye. Now, a clinic that only has one doctor who is ninety nine years old will no doubt welcome the new blood and they’ll be out there recruiting them to work at their clinic. But then there are the other clinics that actually have several young doctors who will not necessarily need replacing for a good 20-30 years. These clinics, like others, have been watching the number of abortion patients declining to begin with and all of a sudden they now have to think about the prospect of a young nurse putting together some capital to open up her own office in the same town. It might take a little while but ultimately that nurse and her clinic will start siphoning off patients from the established clinic and, like the hot dog guy, their income and life style could be affected.
Now, the pro-lifers will scream that I’ve just admitted that the doctors are “in it for the money.” Well, to some extent that is true. Like any other doctor or businessperson, when you enter a field and open up shop your goal is to make enough money to pay the expenses, the staff salaries and – dare I say it – a profit for the person who invested the money in the first place.
So, while the bigger picture says to thank Jerry Brown for this new law, I’ll bet you anything that some current doctors and owners of abortion clinics are just a tad bit nervous.
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September 30, 2012 at 3:22 pm
What is with the prolife groups’ fascination with spending eternity in Hell? One of these days, all those who relied so heavily on condemning people to Hell will find out, as with limbo, so went Hell. Just concepts that were socially constructed by men who wanted to keep people in tight control. In today, out tomorrow.
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October 3, 2012 at 2:12 pm
“Pro Lifers” (hardly a Pro Lifer given his comments!) like that guy Dunkle are hallucinatory Catholics worshipping a mystical women hating God.
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September 30, 2012 at 3:34 pm
Another Awesome Powerful Post Pat.
Tx!
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September 30, 2012 at 4:29 pm
I am all for responsible, knowledgeable people performing abortions, as well as midwives assisting in births. It seems to me that everyone would want a world where every child was welcomed and cared for as a birthright.
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October 3, 2012 at 2:13 pm
I agree Marty.
I do Not plan on adopting any children.
So if someone wants to force women to have babies they better be ready to adopt them, and pay for their upbringing!!
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September 30, 2012 at 7:33 pm
Of course doctors are in it for the money. Just like truck drivers, police, priests, politicians and corporate executives—all in it for the money…
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September 30, 2012 at 8:55 pm
It is true that most people need to make a living to do what they do or they couldn’t do what they do.
Doctors on average are very smart, or they could never get through a decade of medical school and residency. If they were in something for the money, they would never choose medicine. A miserable profession for making money/ working hour.
In my experience, over decades, I have been astonished watching thousands of doctors work for free, for over 100 hours/week, for their needy patients.
Doctors are different on average than other professionals. It is rare to get a professional EVER to work for free. You will not find other professionals doing anything close to the number of hours that doctors work, Not Even Close.
Doctors do it as a matter of daily routine.
And they deserve our Laurels.
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October 3, 2012 at 2:13 pm
FUBAR, you are clueless!
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September 30, 2012 at 8:56 pm
Abortion is MURDER! and you are all going to HELL!
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October 1, 2012 at 6:16 am
More hellfire and brimstone. I rest my case.
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October 1, 2012 at 7:26 am
Ann,
If you know of a murder call the police!
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October 1, 2012 at 9:26 am
Can’t, they made murder legal here.
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October 1, 2012 at 10:07 am
Made murder legal? Surely you jest.
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October 1, 2012 at 6:00 pm
We need to outlaw the abortion mills!
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October 1, 2012 at 7:39 pm
Sweetie, there are no mills. With all the outsourcing of industries from folks like Mitt Romney, the mills are gone. China should be your destination if you’re looking for mills.
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October 7, 2012 at 6:12 am
\We need to “outlaw” …”radical…hate-filled churches” like the one in Florida!! When that “nutcase” preacher came out threatening to burn the “Koran”…he endangered so many lives…the lives of the soldiers…US citizens both (born and the unborn)!! Because he is a US citizen..when his life was threatened…. our police”had” to protect him!?!?!
Just because someone’s beliefs are different from “our” own does NOT mean that “we” are “right”!! But “we” do have to be “tolerant” of one another…and their beliefs!
To many of these “right-wing” religious zealots are just “out of control”!! They are far more dangerous to the “public at large” than the “abortion provider”!!
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October 8, 2012 at 7:58 am
Good point, Lorraine. I also wish there was a way to “outlaw” the media that covers idiots like this guy who wanted to burn the Koran. The media actually makes these folks look “bigger” than they really are. It’s like showing “protests” in Iran where probably five people are burning a US flag. They often make it look like its thousands of people…
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October 3, 2012 at 2:14 pm
Another Anti Abortion Nut.
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January 15, 2013 at 6:35 pm
Hi Kris, I agree with you, I have no problem acnewolkdging the fact that women are different than men (thank God for that!) I also find their pushing of the abortion agenda disgusting, women who kill their own babies are not feminine in the least in my opinion.
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January 16, 2013 at 9:07 am
Who is killing babies Aryan?
Killing babies is illegal . . .
Abortion is legal, and it is not killing babies.
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October 1, 2012 at 8:19 pm
http://interviewwithunborn.com/view-film/
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October 3, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Stupid piece of Propaganda, so typical of bonehead anti abortion dumb dumbs.
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October 3, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Interview with the unborn? You mean they can talk before they’re born? Why isn’t that all over the news!!
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October 3, 2012 at 3:07 pm
These antis are batty.
They regurgitate their stupid propaganda like it was a gospel – not that a gospel is a gospel!
It looks like Obama will win, lets keep our fingers crossed, but also vote as well!
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October 3, 2012 at 4:15 pm
Yes, life site news documents the plight of the unborn!
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October 2, 2012 at 5:25 am
before abortion became illegal in the US in the 19th century, it was common for nurses and midwives to perform them.
the laws making abortion illegal were a backlash against the suffrage movement and were pushed by the AMA , motivated by keeping woman in their place.
there was no concern for the mother or for the baby or regarding the moral questions that are presented regarding abortion by both camps.
it was simply to keep women where men wanted them.
is anyone familiar with the meme stating that 79% of anti abortion leaders are men?
that meme made me wonder what number of doctors who perform abortions are men.
i know in my own city, the percentage of doctors who openly perform abortions is 75%.
but nobody i know, either anti or choicer seems to know overall what that percentage is.
i just think it would be interesting to know, as well as to know how that percentage will change with california’s new law.
it would also be interesting to know how many of the docs performing abortions who will oppose this law are men.
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October 2, 2012 at 6:38 am
Rogelio,
I would add to your welcomed information about the 19th century, the anti vice society that eventually became known as Comstock laws. Those obscenity laws included birth control, abortion, pornographic literature including French postcards (nudie pics on postcards), and eventually became integrated with the Prohibition.And we now know the ugly impact of Prohibition. As for women, their virtues included piety, purity, and submissiveness to their husbands. Sounds like the religious conservatives of today, right? Purity balls, abstinence programs?
When the Vice goons began burning books, a common practice among Fascists in Europe at the time, the U.S. began to dismantle their powers. It’s the type of madness we see in the right wing conservatives currently in the form of the Helms Act that bans federal funding for public art that is deemed obscene or the ban of federal funding for reproductive health care.
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October 3, 2012 at 4:16 pm
Thank you Rogelio, you make a good argument!
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October 8, 2012 at 7:56 am
Rogie, glad to hear from you again. I’ve been out of pocket for several days. Re your post, I would have to guess that a good 80% of the doctors who perform abortions are men.
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October 3, 2012 at 1:47 am
All I can say it is individual choice as their civil rights. We can’t force citizens to be a part of pro or anti but we can help them to make the right decision because all in the end they themselves make their own lives and choices, no other people can dictate what way of life is right for them.
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October 3, 2012 at 2:15 pm
Let us vote for Choice!!!!
Vote for Obama!!!
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October 3, 2012 at 4:18 pm
Romney is the man for the job! We will see tonight!
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October 3, 2012 at 7:37 pm
Im watching MSNBC right now. I think Romney has already slipped and screwed up too much in this two person election. My prediction : Easy Obama win, nt a Landslide because all the dummy slave states, but still an easy win.
Hallejulah!
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October 8, 2012 at 7:54 am
Casey, what do you think now about the debate? Do u still think it’s a landslide for Obama?
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October 3, 2012 at 2:33 pm
I think that’s ridiculous. The day any physician can perform an abortion is the day certain clinics stop being targets. It would come down to attacking every doctor in town because they MIGHT perform abortions. This makes abortion providers much more private, and that is a good thing for everyone. The doctors who are making their living by abortion can now go work anywhere without fear that they’re leaving a large group of women in the lurch because they’re the only game in town. They can go work at a group which provides more than just abortions or women’s health services. More anonymity for doctors is safer for all of them.
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October 3, 2012 at 2:37 pm
Abortion is murder. The doctors should go to jail!
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October 3, 2012 at 2:39 pm
Murder is illegal. Troll.
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October 3, 2012 at 2:44 pm
You will be judged by the one true god eventually!!
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October 3, 2012 at 2:46 pm
Then why don’t you shove off and let him do it? Or are you better at judging than god is?
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October 3, 2012 at 3:05 pm
The Lord does not favor abortion.
The scripture is clear.
I will pray for all of you.
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October 3, 2012 at 3:08 pm
The lord also doesn’t favor divorce, and expressly forbids it, unlike hinting at it. Go protest that.
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October 3, 2012 at 3:10 pm
Esa,
Come on, you write so Hokey, like you are from the 1500’s . . .
What are you Catholic or something like that?
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October 3, 2012 at 3:11 pm
You people jest at the crime of abortion.
History will show us, like slavery, and the Holocaust that we are the crusaders of what is right!!
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October 3, 2012 at 7:16 pm
I am voting Pro Choice Obama!!!
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October 7, 2012 at 7:07 am
And how do you know that is the “God” that you worship?!?!
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October 3, 2012 at 2:40 pm
I am so exhausted of these anti Abortion trolls!
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October 3, 2012 at 2:39 pm
This also goes without mentioning the effect it would have on women ourselves. No more going to a place across town where you’ve never been, fighting your way through protesters shoving baby blankets and bloody pamphlets in your face. If you can get it done at your PCP, you can stay in your comfort zone without worrying about someone taking your picture and a picture of your license plate and plastering it online.
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October 3, 2012 at 2:43 pm
With the incredible amount of legislation on health care privacy, I would think there would be some restrictions on the activities you mention.
One thing I always wondered about is, when a women goes to a Doctor’s office that is performing abortions that day, she may be just getting a follow up, or a primary care exam, or an influenza vaccine shot.
Still, the rabid protestors scream at her like she is the devil.
There should be something about this in the law that is illegal. There certainly is precedent in spouse abuse about inappropriate verbal violence.
Why should it not exist in these circumstances?
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October 8, 2012 at 7:52 am
Evan, I’m just catching up on messages…you raise a good point but as I’ve written in the past, my concern is that once we start restricting “speech” it’s a slippery slope. At some point, you might want to be standing outside of a major corporation or some other place, screaming your head off and I think you’d want to be able to do that, no?
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October 11, 2013 at 12:02 pm
This post plays right into the antis hands, there is a a veritable wealth of medical studies and data that have proved over the span of many years that non-physicians are competent at first trimester abortions. Please do your research before hand.
Non-physician clinicians can safely provide first trimester medical abortion – 2009
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S096880800933445X
Provision of abortion by mid-level providers: international policy, practice and perspectives WHO Bulletin – 2009
http://www.scielosp.org/scielo.php?pid=S0042-96862009000100014&script=sci_arttext
Can midlevel health-care providers administer early medical abortion as safely and effectively as doctors? A randomised controlled equivalence trial in Nepal – 2011
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0140673610622295
Advanced Practice Clinicians as Abortion Providers: Current Developments in the United States
Two national symposia in 1990 and 1996 approved the expansion of early abortion care to non-physicians. As of January 2004, trained advanced practice clinicians were providing medical, and in some cases, early surgical abortion in 14 states. This has required not only medical training but also political organising to achieve the necessary legal and regulatory changes, state by state.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0968808004240083
Can nurses perform manual vacuum aspiration (MVA) as safely and effectively as physicians? Evidence from India – 2011
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0010782411004896
When Politics Trumps Evidence: Legislative or Regulatory Exclusion of Abortion From Advanced Practice Clinician Scope of Practice – 2009
Click to access taylor_weitz_jmwh1-2009.pdf
Midwives and Abortion Care: A Model for Achieving Competency – 2012
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1542-2011.2012.00182.x/abstract?deniedAccessCustomisedMessage=&userIsAuthenticated=false
Nurses and Care of Women Seeking Abortions, 1971 to 2011 – 2012
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1552-6909.2011.01302.x/full
Clinicians Who Provide Abortions: The Thinning Ranks – 1992
http://www.priestsforlife.org/articles/2760-clinicians-who-provide-abortions-the-thinning-ranks
Safety and effectiveness of termination services performed by doctors versus midlevel providers: a systematic review and analysis – 2013
http://agris.fao.org/agris-search/search/display.do?f=2013/GB/GB1301.xml;GB2013100015
Need more? http://scholar.google.com, PubMed etc to do more research.
A Pro-Choice Midwife, who has competently been trained on how to preform first trimester abortions.
Ps – This is what happens when a midwives aren’t trained to do abortion care – http://navelgazingmidwife.squarespace.com/navelgazing-midwife-blog/2012/1/13/beths-hemorrhagic-miscarriage.html
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October 11, 2013 at 10:23 pm
Where did the post author write that non physicians were not capable of doing 1st trimester abortions?
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February 9, 2014 at 3:00 pm
I guess Canadians are having that deabte the anti-choice media/politicians/activists have been claiming we never had, (forgetting the years between 1960 and 1992, because they uh, lost.) If they lose this time around, are we done you think?
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April 21, 2014 at 4:12 am
That’s what we’ve all been waiting for! Great posting!
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