Religious freedom in the United States allows those who love a particular tradition to share it with others. In fact, particular traditions obligate their followers to proselytize. It’s a tradition no different than acts of charity. But sharing your faith can be like an overly enthusiastic used car salesman. It’s like sharing that pushes too far, fails to listen and, sadly, too often lacks civility. In fact, claiming that one’s faith tradition is the only way to salvation to an unwilling audience is unethical. These are practices that anti abortionists engage in, not out of love, as they claim, but out of their own proclaimed rights to free speech and rights to practice their religion, otherwise known as pure propagandizing and harassment. Just ask those who are experiencing the anti abortionists’ proselytizing if they experience their actions as loving. If they do not, then the antis will have found the limits of what they ought to be doing. Anything more and they are no longer educating or witnessing, but propagandizing and harassing. It’s what anti abortionists do every day they lurk outside clinics.
Several years ago, a woman decided to take the protesters’ offer of a free ultrasound and traveled with them to the hospital. She said the women were very nice but that they just didn’t listen to her and didn’t respect where she was in her life. They refused to hear how she simply could not carry on with the pregnancy. They refused to help her on her terms. So she returned to the clinic and had the abortion.
Another story from a few years back centers around a young woman who arrived in a cab with her young daughter. Because the appointment would have been difficult for the daughter, all the escorts in the parking lot entertained the young child while her mother went inside. After the appointment, the woman retrieved her daughter. She and the little girl in the little umbrella stroller left the parking lot followed by doggedly determined protesters chewing in her ear all the way to the Mc Donald’s across the street. On and on, babbling, offering to buy her stuff, help her. But not listening to what she was saying. Never listening. It was a week later, when the young woman showed up again for an appointment. One protester called J-Dog recognized the young woman. Her first words to this young woman were heated, curt. She barked at her, “I TOLD YOU we would help you.” No words of love or kindness. Just pure nastiness. What’s comically pathetic is that after words of nastiness come recitations of prayers—all out of the same mouth, in the same breath.
This combination of nastiness and prayers is particularly evident in another protester called Linebacker. Ever busy toting her rosary and praying about spiritually adopting babies about to be murdered, this anti is also very quick to anger. She’s also quick to point out that her anger is righteous anger. (Oh, give me a freakin’ break!) One day about four years ago, Linebacker showed up at the clinic entrance with a framed image of our lady of Guadalupe. As an aside, it is noteworthy that some Catholics worship graven images of all sorts of folks. They use these images to ward off evil spirits, to talk to, and to threaten people at abortion clinics. So, back to the story. Linebacker used her show-and-tell piece to yell at a woman entering the clinic, shoving the image in the air saying, “the blessed mother is angry at abortion.” Now, here’s where the connection between religious proselytizing and anti abortion protesting goes terribly wrong. Linebacker pivots on her heels and really yells directly at me. Keep in mind, I’m videotaping all this for a documentary. She grasped her graven image firmly, raises it upward and toward me and yells, “The blessed mother is very, very angry at you Kate, you and all those who will watch your stupid documentary.” It had to be one of the funniest things I’ve witnessed for its nonsensical religious rage.
One last story comes from the likes of a Pappa Smurf look alike, white beard and all, named Gerry. He is a man who believes in himself. He once said to escorts who were rightly laughing at him, “Laugh at me and you laugh at God.” But the crowning psycho-religious comment happened when a mother and daughter arrived at the clinic. The mother revealed that her daughter had been brutally raped. Gerry’s response, in typical My-proselytizing-is-more-important-than-your-situation, was “If your daughter is pregnant because of being raped, it’s the way God wanted it.”
The common denominator amongst the anti abortionists is a belief in a position of superiority with their faith as the only true faith. The see anyone outside their belief system as inferior, filled with errors, Satan-inspired, bound to an eternity in Hell, in need of prayers and on and on, ad nauseum. So it is little wonder that when these lovelies assume such a position in their religiously informed antiabortion proselytizing, that they are met with objections, disdain and reciprocal disrespect. Show no respect, get no respect. It’s the basics of Ethics 101.
“It is my conviction that there is no way to peace – peace is the way.” ~Thich Nhat Hanh
January 3, 2013 at 1:36 pm
When I get tired of wading through the religious anti-woman bullcookery I look to quotes like this and poof, inspiration. The fight thus continues.
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January 3, 2013 at 4:44 pm
where did this come from? it makes almost no sense. Which side are you on? i cant stand this kind of idiocy. i hope this is what your fighting.
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January 3, 2013 at 6:09 pm
Are you asking me which side I’m on?
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January 4, 2013 at 9:37 pm
no, the Arbourist. sorry. I got confused for a moment with that one.
but good one, so you did a documentary, or did i mis-read that?
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January 5, 2013 at 6:09 am
Yes, I produced a documentary, Crossing the Line, about an abortion clinic in Allentown PA. I began this documentary as an effort to understand how religiously grounded activists could engage in behaviors that seemed so uncivil, so hostile toward the very women they wanted to reach. I soon realized that these activists believe life begins at conception . . . In the sense that a fertilized egg is the moral equivalent of an adult.
As such, they feel a moral obligation to save the unborn . . . Regardless of the ethics of their tactics.
While no one on either side would argue against the right to free speech or the right to exercise one’s religion, most would understand that in this combustible situation, civility is often a sad casualty. But after listening and watching their intense religious battle against abortion, I’ve come to believe that many have crossed the line when they
• Use their religion to harass and stigmatize women or
• Demonize medical professionals with pseudoscience or
• Flaunt grotesque images and use violent language
Unlike compassionate advocacy based on integrity, honesty and human dignity, far too many of the prolife activists’ efforts are far too often more like an attack against innocent non-combatants called women.
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January 3, 2013 at 5:44 pm
Please don’t kill any babies.
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January 3, 2013 at 6:10 pm
No abortion clinic kills babies. If you know that they are killing babies, YF, why not call the police?
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January 4, 2013 at 1:29 am
In the Philippines, the Catholic Church is really against abortion or any other kind of contraceptive or pill. That’s why passing the Reporductive Health Bill has been on debate for so many years now. Faith has been one of the issues in that country.
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January 4, 2013 at 9:32 am
Jesus loves you Kate. Let go of your pain and let Him love you. Your life will be transformed.
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January 4, 2013 at 10:19 am
Transformed to be like you? No, thanks.
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January 4, 2013 at 11:08 am
Silly Rabbit. Don’t you remember the song from your childhood Sunday School class called “Jesus loves me this I know”? We sang it during vacation bible school singalongs and during summer tent revivals when I was growing up in Texas.
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January 4, 2013 at 10:22 am
Great news from the Abortion Care Network: The Allentown Women’s Center is the:
ACN Clinic of the Day!
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January 5, 2013 at 12:15 pm
Don’t think the gal that put that scathing review about Dr. Poizin of AWC online would concur,
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January 5, 2013 at 2:03 pm
You remember her?? The review that AWC tried to bury on the Vitals.com website? You know the review from October 28, 2010 where the former client of AWC and patient of Dr. Poisin said something to the effect that he wasn’t a good doctor because he did something that almost ended her life.
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January 5, 2013 at 5:20 pm
I wouldn’t trust any anonymous reviewers especially the ones that rate physicians. I would encourage anyone to keep in mind that all the lies that anti abortion terrorists tell make them highly suspect for penning poison on Vitals. Many of these folks make all manner of obscenely false claims. For example, I heard Katie claim several years ago, “My girlfriend died there last week” and “This place is a a slaughterhouse.” Or little mary freakin’ sunshine, I-regret-my-abortion Maggie, telling women not to go inside “They’ll rip your uterus apart” or “you’ll cry for the rest of your life.” Then there’s the gruesome gorilla named Joyce who loved to tell women that the doctor would “turn your baby into baby roadkill.” So you see,you can’t trust these folks. Their lies are based on their wild imaginations, their god-deluded fascinations and their abject, pitifully vacuous lives.
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January 5, 2013 at 8:55 pm
Oh my goodness no we’re not talking about wild imaginations here. This woman was a former client of AWC and Dr. Poizin. The vitals website doesn’t just post anything – they verify it first. All of the posts are written as a guest post. Poizin – or something that sounds very similar and is just one or two letters further away in the alphabet had a scathing review from a previous post abortive woman who was not at all pleased with the services rendered from him and AWC. Seems he punctured something internally. AWC then put out a plea on their face book page asking women to post positive comments about Poizin so as to try and bury the negative comment.
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January 6, 2013 at 7:12 am
What utter balderdash!
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January 6, 2013 at 8:33 am
Here’s the exact language of the post:
Vitals Guest | This doctor is known for several medical negligence on women Oct 28th, 2010
He is a careless doctor and shouldn’t be in the medical field. He lacerated my intestine and sent me home to die.
1. This post is not scathing. It’s ignorant. There are no violations against this doctor. If you care to check the PA department of professional licensure, you would know that. Instead of making up bull, try educating yourself.
2. Anyone can post anything they care to on Vitals. Obviously, the above wrote an unsubstantiated libelous comment.
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January 6, 2013 at 9:15 am
Then why didn’t the good doctor have the libelous post removed? It’s been on the website for over 2 years. Oh and by the way, I hardly think vitals.com would appreciate your comment saying they allowed an unsubstantiated libelous comment on their website.
Copy of AC FB page requesting their clients having a good experience to post on vitals website.
Allentown Women’s Center
July 18, 2011
If you have had a good experience at the Allentown Women’s Center, please consider posting it on vitals.com! Here is one of the most recent posts:
May 03, 2011 4 star rating Excellent at diagnosing
I have only amazing things to say about Dr. R. He was able to diagnosis a serious ailment I had when many other doctors missed it. He also has a superb bedside manner and explains things so that you can understand.
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January 7, 2013 at 6:37 am
You asked:
“Then why didn’t the good doctor have the libelous post removed?”
I cannot answer your question because I do not care to make specious speculations like you and your ilk do far too often. But I can say that the post from the person who wrote “He lacerated my intestine and sent me home to die” is so far-fetched that any normal person would interpret it for what it is—ignorant on so many levels.
And then you wrote “Oh and by the way, I hardly think vitals.com would appreciate your comment saying they allowed an unsubstantiated libelous comment on their website.” How very little you know.
From the fine print, Vitals “is not responsible for screening, policing, editing or monitoring the Submissions and other third party statements posted or displayed on Vitals”
In other words, you or any of your types can write whatever you like. One of you has done it once with the lacerated intestine crap, why not try it again if it snaps your socks? You all are so good at telling whooper stories that are at odds with undisputed facts, why not create your versions on Vitals?
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January 5, 2013 at 8:16 pm
Keep in mind that the poster above doesn’t even know the correct spelling of ONE doctor and clearly does not realize the many other docs who work at the clinic.
Dumb as a box of rocks, all of them.
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January 5, 2013 at 8:55 pm
Oh, we know it all right.
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January 7, 2013 at 6:39 am
How true. You know “it” like how to tie your shoes, how to feed your face and how to wash your hands. Such good little doobies.
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January 4, 2013 at 11:17 am
I thought how very clever to be eating Chinese food while opening presents
probably made in China. What day were you celebrating by the way?
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January 4, 2013 at 12:50 pm
Your myopia and bias is showing. People eating Chinese food and going to the movies is typical of the Jewish here in the US on Christmas Day. There’s nothing clever. It’s what is open on December 25 in most parts of this country.
And in answer to your question, I celebrate every day.One is as good as the next….
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January 4, 2013 at 3:06 pm
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January 4, 2013 at 9:40 pm
That is so hilarious.
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January 4, 2013 at 4:49 pm
Amanda Marcotte’s story about conservatives losing the reproductive rights battle:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2013/01/04/time_s_abortion_cover_story_wrong_about_the_pro_choice_movement_40_years.html
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January 5, 2013 at 8:45 am
I will ask you again. What day were you celebrating by the way? You did not answer my question. You avoided giving the real reason you were celebrating, didn’t you?
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January 5, 2013 at 5:19 pm
First, YF, you asked a day I was celebrating but forgot to specify….celebrate what?
Second, I gave you an answer that was sufficient. The fact that you don’t like it, is not my problem. It’s your problem. Deal with it.
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February 10, 2014 at 9:07 pm
Great one Jason! As a fellow hutenr I have felt all of those emotions. Can’t wait as Bow season starts here in Kentucky the first week of Sept.! I’ll be out there alone with my thoughts of god and His majesty. Preparing myself by reading, studying, and preaching through the gospel of John!
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January 5, 2013 at 5:33 pm
The benefits of decriminalizing abortion—read on:
http://www.rabble.ca/columnists/2013/01/benefits-decriminalizing-abortion
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January 5, 2013 at 9:43 pm
drk8thebloggingfem Says:
January 4, 2013 at 10:22 am
Great news from the Abortion Care Network: The Allentown Women’s Center is the:
ACN Clinic of the Day!
Hey – the ACN – isn’tthat the same group that had the goods on Dr. Gosnell’s House of Horrors Abortion Mill in Philadelphia, PA and never turned him in for all the horrific offenses committed against the women and the unborn at his killing mill???? Yeah – I guess that wilts the bloom off of AWC’s rose.
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January 6, 2013 at 8:22 am
Again, only the desperate and ill-informed would write such utter balderdash about ACN. There were many ACN-affiliated professionals in abortion care who desperately tried to make the Gosnell case but who were ignored by the state department of health.
It was Gosnell’s drug ring and the negative press that busted him. Further, and to make it simple to understand such a horrific and tragic situation, three separate entities of the state, the department of health, the department of state and the drug enforcement agency, did nothing until the press revealed Gosnell’s story.
Further, according to the Grand Jury’s report,
It was “bureaucratic inertia for allowing Dr. Gosnell’s predatory practice to thrive, “because the women in question were poor and of color, because the victims were infants without identities, and because the subject was the political football of abortion.”
The National Abortion Federation (NAF), which is neither a governmental nor a regulatory body, received Gosnell’s audacious reach for legitimacy when he applied for membership in NAF in 2009. An evaluator from NAF rejected the application in January, 2010 because they fell very short of meeting NAF standards. The Grand Jury commented in their report that the evaluator never told anyone in authority, like due to bureaucratic inertia.
Doctors filed written complaints including a doctor from Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia who hand-delivered a complaint, advising the department that numerous patients he had referred for abortions came back from Gosnell with the same venereal disease
A former employee of Gosnell presented the Board of Medicine with a complaint that laid out the whole scope of his operation but the Department attorneys chose to accept this incomplete investigation, and dismissed the complaint as unconfirmed.
There is no mention of ACN in the grand jury report.
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January 6, 2013 at 9:20 am
Bottom line about the ACN – they knew about Gosnell’s disgusting practice and turned a blind eye. So much for their accreditation of AWC. You all must be so proud.
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January 6, 2013 at 9:59 am
Are you truly so hard-headed that you cannot comprehend the concept of bureaucratic inertia? No one from ACN turned a blind eye. Bureaucrats from all levels of the state simply did nothing following reports of problems. It’s like all the religiously motivated protesters who only terrorize where they feel safe. None of you white folks ever protested at Gosnells, did you?
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January 6, 2013 at 3:07 pm
Even worse to be hard hearted Kate.
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January 7, 2013 at 6:13 am
I’m sorry dear. In order for you to insult me, I must first value your opinion. Nice try though.
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January 10, 2013 at 1:30 pm
Ethics… which politician does have that? really!
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