“Pat, sorry to bother you this morning but I wanted you to know that one of our patients died yesterday.” I could barely understand the caller, her message being obscured by her audible sobs.
It was a Saturday morning in 1996 when I got the call at home from the director of an abortion clinic in Illinois. As a staff person at the National Coalition of Abortion Providers, all of the directors and owners had my home phone in case of an emergency. Generally, the calls I got at home were to tell me a doctor had been killed or a clinic firebombed. This was the first time I got a call about a patient dying in a clinic.
The director told me that the woman had died of a pulmonary embolism, something that was totally unpredictable. Still, although they were not responsible it was clear that the entire staff, from the director to the receptionist who checked her in that morning, they were stunned and they spent hours going back in their minds (and in the charts) to see if they missed any sign.
Despite what the anti-abortion advocates would have you believe, deaths in abortion clinics are an extremely rare occurrence. So rare, in fact, that when it happens, it becomes ”national news” amongst the abortion provider community. Indeed, upon speaking to the director I immediately sent out a broadcast fax to our clinics letting them know of this unfortunate event. I was told later that the clinic received a number of calls, emails and flowers as a sign of support for the staff.
But the fact is that abortion clinics are medical facilities that conduct surgery and, as in any other medical facility, sometimes things can go wrong or there can be a unfortunate, natural occurrence. The death could also be the result of blatant negligence or just an unfortunate set of circumstances. It’s possible that the patient did not tell the clinic some vital information that led to her death. It could just be anything
I thought about that incident years ago when I heard that a 29-year old woman had recently died when she was having a late term abortion performed by Doctor Lee Carhart in Maryland. Of course, the anti-abortion groups were quick to pass judgment. “The avoidable death of this young woman dramatically illustrates the dangers of third trimester abortions that are done outside of the safety of obstetrical standards,” said Troy Newman, President of Operation Rescue and Pro-life Nation.
This is par for the course. A woman unfortunately dies and the anti-abortion folks will jump all over this, making it appear as if nothing was done to save the woman’s life, that the staff just sat around watching Oprah while a woman died in their clinic. They’ll suggest that staff tried to cover up the “botched abortion.” And, of course, they’ll then argue about the “dangers” of legal abortion.
Approximately one million women each year get abortions. Some will be injured, some will have a bad reaction emotionally and a very small handful will die from the abortion itself or have some complication. Those who oppose legal abortion will fail to mention that on average only six women die from complications of a safe/legal abortion in the United States and that there are actually 13.3 maternal deaths per 100,000 live births. And more than 68,000 women nearly die in childbirth in the United States every year.
No, instead they will spend their energies trying to bring as much attention as possible by focusing on this one very unfortunate incident, they will rush to judgment without collecting any official facts and they’ll argue that, because of a rare incident like this, abortion should be made illegal in this country. Oh, and they’ll probably throw in there a pitch for money to their organization.
In the meantime, they will totally ignore the hundreds and thousands of women who get abortions safely, who go home after the procedure, go to work the next day and move on with their life with no regrets.
Related articles
- NM board exonerates late-term abortion doctor (cnsnews.com)


February 10, 2013 at 12:17 pm
Actually women who go to Abortion Clinics, they sometimes bleed so heavy, that they need to go to the ER to have an emergency D&C to stop the bleeding if they can – hemorraghing
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February 10, 2013 at 1:04 pm
BAH,
What is your point?
Sometime complications occur in every procedure that is done in medicine and surgery.
Can you explain your comment better?
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February 12, 2013 at 10:52 am
Yeah, BAH, I’m not sure what you’re trying to say. As Telsa says, anytime someone goes in for surgery there’s always a risk. Interestingly, the antis never talk about shutting down other medical offices that harm women, particularly hospitals.
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February 10, 2013 at 3:16 pm
Hate to get all factual and scientific on you, BAH, but here’s some facts (instead of your mythmaking) to consider:
Death occurs in 0.0006% of all legal surgical abortions (one in 160,000 cases). These rare deaths are usually the result of such things as adverse reactions to anesthesia, embolism, infection, or uncontrollable bleeding. In comparison, a woman’s risk of death during pregnancy and childbirth is ten times greater.
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February 12, 2013 at 10:53 am
And the pro-choicers were always nervous about comparing the death rates with abortion to those in childbirth. They were concerned that it would make them look as if they favored abortion over giving birth. And, of course, the antis never ever answer the question about dangers in childbirth…
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February 11, 2013 at 2:39 pm
If the pt. goes to the ER instead of the clinic that performed the procedure…the doc at the ER will repeat the procedure just to C.Y.A!! They do NOT want to deal with “abortion patients”…because the DO NOT want to deal with the PROTESTER’S!! Bottom line…they are afreaid of them and all the hype…
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February 11, 2013 at 3:00 pm
They should be afraid of those monstrous anti choice protestors.
They scare me!
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February 12, 2013 at 9:59 am
boo
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February 12, 2013 at 10:56 am
Now, that’s pretty scary, JS.
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February 9, 2014 at 7:02 am
I am so excited, I’m going to the migdinht showing. The 3D trailer looked fantastic. I can’t wait to see Johnny and the mermaids and Johnny (did I mention him already hehe.)-Julie. littlepinkrainboots.blogspot.com
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February 12, 2013 at 10:55 am
And what always bothered me is that sometimes a clinic would be concerned about sending a patient to the hospital because they knew that the protestors were outside taking pictures of the gurney. Then, there would be an article about an “injured patient” in that pro-life newsletter the next day. Did you find that to be the case, Lorraine, when you ran your clinic?
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February 12, 2013 at 10:13 pm
Yes! We were pretty fortunate that the few problems that could not be handled at the clinic were handled by our back-up in his office or at a Pvt. hospital …but if a pt. just “showed up” at the Catholic Hospital or the “county” hospital it was a different story! the protester’s were all over it! They knew about before we did! Because it was well known among the local docs that we took care of all our patient’s that needed aftercare!
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February 13, 2013 at 9:48 am
So, a woman is in distress and the antis are still harassing her. WWJD?
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February 12, 2013 at 10:51 pm
My best friend was rushed to emergency room for a hemorrhage, after giving BIRTH. Stop sensationalizing an issue for your own perverted gains.
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February 12, 2013 at 11:39 pm
People have been known to die during simple office visits to Doctors, Dentists or other medical professionals. The incidents are few and almost always simply an anomaly. Perhaps you should look up statistics on deaths from all medical procedures done in ALL clinics, hospitals and offices. Google it BAH. Go ahead.
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February 14, 2013 at 5:38 pm
bah a d&c is an abortion. It stands for dilation and curettage.
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February 10, 2013 at 12:52 pm
No surprise that the first response to this blog post was an anti-choice person, BAH, attempting to imply that hemorrhaging is common during or after abortions. That is not true and the CDC website as well as most state health department sites have ample data to verify factual stats. When one believes they are “right” about something, they should be able to provide objective data to validate the claim – not just words to induce fear.
Like all other medical procedures, abortion is a “consumer service or product” in our free market system. Root canals, plastic surgery, orthopedic surgeries (laser and invasive), and many other medical services have far higher rates of complication than first trimester or even later term abortions. All consumer goods, whether services or products, deserve some level of government and/or professional oversight and regulation. Period. Things do happen at the hands of competent physicians – some make mistakes for sure. Things also occur due to unknown or unreported medical conditions. Sometimes bad things happen to patients due to incompetent doctors or medical personnel, including abortion, obstetrics, dentistry, orthopedics, and ALL other areas of medical care. Why on earth would the supposedly life worshiping people who so ardently oppose abortion ever want it to be illegal, or so inaccessible that it opens the door to illegal services, given that government and professional oversight is truly the only way to ensure safety for all procedures performed at all medical practices?
Before Roe vs. Wade, illegal abortion was the leading cause of morbidity and mortality among women of childbearing age. If anti-abortion people are as absolute in their care and love for women as they claim, then, logically there should be motivation for them to ensure safe and legal abortion.
It is worth noting that pulmonary embolism or deep vein thrombosis, as the case of the patient referenced here, is the cause of about 7% of all post-operative deaths. However unfortunate, such deaths occur. Respiratory failures also contribute to post-surgical death rates and a host of other events. However, medical procedure by medical procedure, abortion still remains among the safest today – BECAUSE IT IS LEGAL.
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February 10, 2013 at 2:12 pm
Don’t expect BAH or JS or any other antiabort to agree with facts. They have so much respect for the facts that they seldom use them.
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February 12, 2013 at 10:59 am
Speaking of “facts’, you should see the way the antis are throwing around all sorts of allegations in regards to the death of Doctor Carhart’s patient. They just KNOW everything that happened in that clinic and in the hotel and in the hospital that day. How sad….Leave the woman in piece and let the medical examiner sort it out.
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February 12, 2013 at 10:20 pm
They acted like they followed every step she took..I mean did they seriously steak out the hotel everyday she was there..enough to report on the paleness of her skin? Did the family drive off with a sign that said we are headed to the ER.? I think they are very liberal with their descriptions!!
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February 13, 2013 at 9:50 am
I dont know, Lorraine. You know how they are. I totally believe that they followed the woman as well as they could. They are like voyeurs..
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February 15, 2013 at 1:39 pm
Yes, we know about that sleazy voyeur cum shaming crap. One protester named Joyce had the balls to visit a woman she recognized at the clinic at her own work place and try talking her out of her abortion.
Like I said, by any means….ethics be damned
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February 12, 2013 at 10:57 am
@FarrellKJ, you sound like you have a lot of experience in this field. Did you ever work in this area or still do?
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February 10, 2013 at 2:09 pm
One thing is certain, the antiabortionists have a really conflicted relationship with actuality, that which is, that which is verifiable, that which is called fact. When it’s convenient, they have no qualms about yellow journalism and chicanery over a woman’s unfortunate death following an abortion. When a woman dies from a ruptured subcapsular hematoma of the liver as a result of her near-term pregnancy, they would likely say it’s what God wanted. Both women died. That’s a fact. But the antiaborts view these two deaths very differently. The one who dies from abortion is discounted, stigmatized while the one who dies because of the ruptured hematoma is to be damn-near martyred. Antiaborts are fond of condemning women for throwing away their fetuses with abortion. I’d ask, “Aren’t you throwing away the woman who died from complications of an abortion? Aren’t you treating her the way you (wrongly) assume women treat unwanted pregnancies?”
One of the antiaborts on this blog made the ridiculous claim that the 29 year woman’s death was shameful. So, is this shaming in death the new frontier for antiaborts, much like the efforts of the Westboro Baptist Church? Is there is no end to the depths of their brazen buffoonery to garner publicity, no end to the depths of their depravity they call morality. Instead of the Westboro’s signs like “God hates Fags” are the antiaborts like Troy Neuman and other celebrity whores going to stand around with signs at that woman’s funeral that shame her and her family? Or will they leave the sign-toting for the underlings who lurk like lemmings outside clinics and in larger groups when they need a crowd?
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February 10, 2013 at 2:31 pm
Valid points drk8thebloggingfem. I certainly join all other reasonable people and take offense at the selectivity by which the anti-abortion people condemn or matyrize people to promote a religious agenda under the guise of public policy. The real shame of such behavior is that it ultimately serves no purpose beyond reckless dissemination of false information that prevents the public from actual learning and, by sad extension, inhibits policy makers from representing evolved constituencies that can support them when they do the right thing by tossing ridiculous anti-abortion initiatives,
As a woman who, a) knows firsthand the experience of meeting face to face with the prospect of an illegal abortion when I was 14 and pregnant, and, b) knows firsthand the experience of condemnation for choosing to give birth and keep the baby while so young, what is most disturbing to me is that the anti-abortion zealots are at the top of the hierarchy with respect to Hypocrites of the World. No to abortion. No support for parenting…unless you do things only as they do (adoption or blindly following a cult-like evangelical religion). Most of all, I find it so outrageous that these are often the very people who show up at clinics with their pregnant daughters…but, of course, their situations are…”special.”
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February 10, 2013 at 2:20 pm
We live in an overpopulated world where giving birth is FAR more deadly than abortion, yet a lot of crazies try to outlaw abortion and none try to outlaw childbirth. Seems legit.
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February 12, 2013 at 11:01 am
Now wouldn’t that be interesting if a pro-choice introduced a bill outlawing childbirth under the premise that (like the antis), they were “concerned” about women’s safety. That would be a very cool tongue in cheek piece of legislation!
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February 12, 2013 at 6:04 pm
Well Pat in New York they are kinda doing that..check this story out
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/feb/9/smythno-discrimination-abortion-rights-dangerous-p/
New York could soon shut down Catholic and other health care providers for not offering or referring for abortions. Democratic Gov. Andrew Cuomo, with enough support in the New York state legislature, could sign a reproductive health act (RHA) this year. Among other actions, the act would declare that New York “shall not discriminate against the exercise of…[abortion] rights…in the regulation or provision of benefits, facilities, services, or information.”
Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/feb/9/smythno-discrimination-abortion-rights-dangerous-p/#ixzz2KjFwgfip
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter
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February 13, 2013 at 9:50 am
Thanks, Sarah Rose! Very interesting…
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February 14, 2013 at 8:05 pm
You’re welcome..I think that this should be done on a national basis, what is good for the goose is good for the gander, so to speak.
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February 10, 2013 at 3:07 pm
Like the rats they are, the anti’s take one of the very few cases that demonstrates that – though the risk is low – there is RISK to abortion. Then they literally sell it to the media.
There is risk to LIFE.
I am thankful for every single abortion provider, their support staff, and their families. Always.
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February 10, 2013 at 3:54 pm
To be clear…if any one person or group is genuinely concerned about risks within medical consumerism, elective cosmetic and optical surgery practices continue to spring up all over the country. Most are just fine. However, most specifically target women and there has been an increasing number of consumer complaints. Thus, it would make sense for people who aspire to be such watchdogs of medicine to at least be strategic about who they monitor and why…that is, if they are being truthful in their claims to care about women.
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February 10, 2013 at 6:27 pm
Thanks for your points about consumerism and media’s impact on expectations for people’s bodies…there’s loads of charlatans out there
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February 11, 2013 at 1:46 pm
Exactly!! More and more docs are performing surgical procedures in their offices that use to be done in hospitals…in SC you can go have several proc. done (in one office my friend worked in for awhile) the ventilation wasn’t set up for the smell of “smell of burned skin” so they would have to open the back door and turn on a Walmart fan to get the odor out!! Then “they” would through the :removed skin” in the trash!! This doctor is a well respected “plastic surgeon!!
But an “abortion clinic” must keep the property “free from rodents, ants and keep the grass a certain length”!! The clinic must also have all the rooms a specific temp. and have the halls and doorway a certain width!! The clinic must also be inspected at least once per year or more often if there is a complaint!!
A free standing office for a physician in SC…DOES NOT NEED TO BE INSPECTED NOR DOES IT NEED A LICENSE!! The doctor is the only one that needs to be licensed!! Strange…isn’t it??
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February 14, 2013 at 7:06 am
What sort of standards do the “crisis pregnancy clinics” have to meet?
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February 14, 2013 at 7:51 am
That’s a great question, Charles. Of course, as you know it all depends on who is in power in the state legislature. If the antis control things, like here in Virginia, then the clinics are the targets. Meanwhile, in some states where we control things, they’re going after the cpcs….
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February 8, 2014 at 2:10 pm
I have always seen Coulter as a stand up cdaeoimn, and she makes me laugh. Kinda like Bill Marher (sp?!?) But Michelle Malkin leads with documented facts. Inconvienent and uncomfortable at times, but facts. I don’t count her in the same breath with Ms. Coulter.I wonder if you or I are in the majority on this one.Trey
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February 10, 2013 at 6:25 pm
Excerpt from the tragic loss of this young woman:
The circumstances that led to her death are unclear.
It is common for both the state medical examiner’s office and the Montgomery police to investigate death cases. Investigators and doctors at the medical examiner’s office review about 10,000 cases a year, including many of people who died in hospitals or at medical facilities.
“At this point, there is no indication of any criminal activity in this case,” said Capt. Paul Starks, a spokesman for the Montgomery County Police Department.
Note to antiaborts: Try to stick to known facts instead of speculating.
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February 10, 2013 at 7:59 pm
Exactly…People die all the time from medical procedures and yes this will be reviewed as with any unfortunate death and of course there is no indication of criminal activity, just look at how times they made George Tiller go to court over really nothing and he was never found guilty of any wrong doing. You would think by now they would quit trying to nail Jello to the Wall.
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February 12, 2013 at 11:05 am
Their focus on Lee Carhart’s situation is a simple attempt to get attention. And they are getting it. In today’s Washington Post, the front page of the metro section, there is a big article about the incident with very large pictures of the protestors that went out to the clinic yesterday. And I will give them credit – they know the issue is hot (“Late term abortion death”), they know how to work the press, they know how to get attention.
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February 12, 2013 at 6:39 pm
Oh boy do they I just looked at the WP. Again and not to diminish the grief that the family is feeling over the loss of this young lady, but how times have these so-called pro-life protesters protested for the already born people that have died from a legal medical procedure? What about a child that dies because they didn’t get that life saving heart or kidney because they didn’t get high enough on the transplant list? What about a child that dies from cancer because they couldn’t afford the treatment or they just didn’t have the knowledge to treat the cancer because the research is not funded?
What about all those children that died in Sandy Hook? Are these pro-life protesters advocating for sensible gun control, can pretty much guarantee they are not protesting for that, can pretty much guarantee that none of them were in Annapolis last week, protesting there in support of O’Malley’s gun legislation.
If they want attention there are more important issues they could be protesting for, to be protesting a private decision that left a woman dead is just plain f@@@ed up.
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February 12, 2013 at 8:55 pm
Suffice to say that these folks, like JS, are, as you write, ” just just plain f@@@ed up.”
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February 14, 2013 at 7:08 am
Hey, a response worthy of John Dunkle! You’re aging, js. . .
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February 12, 2013 at 11:03 am
That’s asking a lot from the antis, Kate.
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February 10, 2013 at 7:53 pm
Thank you Pat for writing the blog post. Much needed at time like this, did you know “they” are having a press conference tomorrow in German Town, will be interesting to see who actually covers it. They forget this is MD not Kansas. Troy can stir the pot all he wants, just like he did with his Summer of Mercy 2011,,which failed miserably for him, thanks to me and many others.
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February 11, 2013 at 6:18 am
I was there that summer. It was unbearably hot but we rallied like the troopers we are. People from so many states who were wonderfully imaginative in their support. Troy pulled a really ignorant stunt when he approached one pregnant woman who was among those of us who supported Dr. Carhart. In an unprovoked moment, he ran up to her and called her a bitch then jumped in a waiting car and drove off.. . says a lot about his character.
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February 13, 2013 at 6:22 am
Troy Newman has no character and certainly no empathy, which he has proven time and time again, if he truly cared about women and fetus’s, did you know he supposedly has 6 children, he would not be using this young’s women death for his own profit, which is exactly what he is doing.
This is from a story in 2010
“Over the past year, OR’s fundraising, and finances, have been the subject of some scrutiny. Last fall the organization announced in a letter on its website that it was on the verge of bankruptcy, a situation that Newman blamed on the economy but other reports traced to the assassination of Dr. Tiller. OR and Newman publicly denounced the murder and Scott Roeder, who was convicted of Dr. Tiller’s murder in January. However, Operation Rescue’s senior policy adviser, Cheryl Sullenger – who spent time in prison for conspiring to blow up an abortion clinic – had communicated with Roeder before the murder, and questions linger about possible connections between Roeder and organized anti-choice groups.
Newman contended that exaggerations of the financial woes were misreported, although the statements “We’re so broke (as the saying goes), we can’t even pay attention” and “we struggle to pay every bill” seem pretty unequivocal.
In late June, Newman participated in a “Pro-Life Training Camp,” imparting his dubious wisdom to the high school and college students who paid $475 not just to hear from a Who’s-Who of the anti-choice world, but also to protest and see Newman yell profanities at a camera crew filming for Jimmy Kimmel Live. If Newman and his cohorts have actually figured out a way to get people to pay them money to then protest in public, I don’t know if we should be scared at their marketing savvy, or relieved at how
easily manipulated the antis are.”
http://feministsforchoice.com/operation-rescue-troy-newman.htm
Also check out this story as well
http://feministsforchoice.com/will-operation-rescue-sing-its-swan-song.htm
would hope everyone reading this post is well aware Operation Rescue lies . . . And then they erase parts of their website to cover it up. Take, for example, their favorite story: buying a Wichita abortion clinic and evicting them. Back when Central Women’s Services, on Central by Hillside in Wichita, decided to close, OR . . . claimed they were the buyers, that they kicked out the tenants who couldn’t pay rent, and the place was a mess. This is completely untrue. In fact, when the clinic prepared to close its doors for many reasons, none of them because they couldn’t pay rent . . . The reality is they didn’t close down this clinic. They had nothing to do with it. They just seized upon an opportunity and spun it in every which way possible . . . So whenever Operation Rescue claims to have closed a clinic, I wonder what the real story is.
So do I
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February 12, 2013 at 11:07 am
See my post, Sarah, on yesterday’s action. My post is up top or down below. Half the time I dont know where my replies go 🙂 I didn’t know you were out in Kansas with ole Troy! And I didn’t know that he had “failed miserably” because, of course, the media does not cover anything that winds up as non-news. Whenever you get the chance, you should do a post or two to tell us what happened!
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February 12, 2013 at 6:08 pm
Oh no I was not in Kansas but I was there for the one in 2011. Did a lot of research on the one in Kansas though.
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February 12, 2013 at 6:37 am
I urge you all, dear readers, to visit christydoula[dot]com for her words of wisdom about this tragic death. I especially want to bring to your attention the paragraph where she writes the following:
“What this story highlights for me, today, the day I will talk to a group of birth doulas about abortion, is the inherent complexity in abortion and who owns the stories. Someone took this horrible story of maternal and infant loss and turned it into a battlefield. We can’t let this happen anymore. For the sake of her family, for the sake of people who will come after her who are carrying pregnancies that put their lives in danger, and for the sake of people who need to voluntarily terminate pregnancies for non-medical reasons.”
Someone? (think Troy Newman, JS and their ilk) took? (stole, appropriated) this horrible story of maternal and infant loss (not murder) and turned it into a battlefield (pitting a dead woman, her child, her family, her friends against the world).
Yep, that’s the work of the so-called prolife movement– by any means necessary. Ethics optional.
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February 12, 2013 at 11:09 am
Unfortunately, there is not much we can do to assure that we wont let this happen again, i.e., it becoming a battle field. As long as the press covers stuff like this, there will be people looking for those cameras.
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February 12, 2013 at 6:11 pm
And those people that are looking for cameras are also looking for donations/money which disgusts me even more. They are using a woman’s death to beg for money. Can’t tell you how wrong that is.
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February 12, 2013 at 10:12 am
Again – six die HOW OFTEN?? Every minute? Hour? Day?
Bottom line – perpetuate the lie by repeating it ad nauseam until it becomes fact. Tactic #1.
BTW – all of the comments here ooze sympathy for the dead victims. They don’t further your cause so you throw them to the dogs. Such compassion is to be expected from those who are so ideologically driven for abortion on demand they harbor anger at anyone who points out the facts.
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February 12, 2013 at 1:02 pm
Let’s not forget how you shame women in death, dear JS.
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February 12, 2013 at 1:51 pm
by any means necessary, ethics optional, right, JS?
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February 12, 2013 at 3:22 pm
I would hardly consider offering women help shaming them but again you can’t see past your nose because your so abortion happy. I also don’t delight in the death of their unborn children like so many of you.
They will look intently and not see, listen carefully and not understand. Mark 4:12
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February 12, 2013 at 8:50 pm
care to translate this gobbledegoop of a statement?
“I would hardly consider offering women help shaming them”
You really are pathetic
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February 13, 2013 at 9:54 am
JS, c’mon now, my friend. Do you honestly believe that we “delight” in the death of “unborn children?” What does that mean? Do you think we applaud when there’s an abortion? Do we have a celebratory drink? Personally, I do not. I think it’s a sad situation and I just hope the woman made the right decision and can then move on with her life.
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February 14, 2013 at 5:43 pm
Every year. Learn to read stats
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February 12, 2013 at 11:13 am
Actually, JS is right to some extent in that I (and others) really haven’t extended our sympathies to the woman’s family. But, of course, our thoughts are with them! I just didn’t really say it and that’s probably because I’ve already gone into “let’s fight” mode. Now, if you did notice, I also did not just defend Lee outright either because I also do not know the facts. If something criminal occurred, we will find out and there will be consequences. I just grow weary of BOTH sides using something like this to make some points. It’s too bad that’s where we are these days, but it’s also the reality.
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February 12, 2013 at 3:28 pm
Ahh. finally some objectivity. Perhaps there’s hope for you . . . . .
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February 12, 2013 at 8:53 pm
Oh for goodness sake, objectivity? The false idol of objective!
really, are you truly that ignorant?
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February 12, 2013 at 6:17 pm
Patrick Mahoney, director of the Christian Defense Coalition, another shill in the anti-abortion terrorist group. What exactly is the CDC anyway, how to they make their money and who pays Patrick’s salary? Are we as taxpayers funding the CDC? I hope not.
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February 12, 2013 at 9:22 pm
Unfortunately our tax dollars support all these crazy religious groups.
I say we get rid of them. I am tired of my tax money going to a bunch of morons.
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February 14, 2013 at 7:52 am
That is not entirely correct, Kenya. The federal government does not send these folks money.
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February 13, 2013 at 9:57 am
Actually, Sarah Rose, if you have some time you can ask the CDC for their IRS Form 990 and they are LEGALLY required to send it to you. Then, you can see how much they raise, how much they spend (including on salaries), etc. Just a simple letter to them will suffice! And, no, taxpayers are not funding them…Also, as a PS, be careful about judging what someone makes. The heads of liberal non profits often make pretty good money !
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February 13, 2013 at 1:30 pm
Isn’t the CDC a non profit org?
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February 13, 2013 at 1:43 pm
Some good news to share from various sources….
## Despite–or maybe BECAUSE of–racist campaigns like last year’s billboards targeting Black women, support for abortion access remains high among people of color. No one wants to be told they cannot make the best decisions for their own families and their own futures.
##Thank you, President Obama, for focusing on the Violence Against Women Act (in addition to child care, equal pay, and more!) at last night’s State of the Union. This is why women re-elected you! Congress needs to step up.
## and from Pennsylvania–
In live press conference – PA LGBT Caucus of State Legislators in Harrisburg releases poll indicating: 62 % in state support equal rights, 69% support equal employment, 72% support public accommodation rights. And quoted the recent poll showing 52% for marriage equality.
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February 14, 2013 at 7:54 am
I do get the sense that things are changing! Especially when it comes to LGBT issues. As for abortion, I dunno. Again, it all depends on who is in charge in the legislature.
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February 14, 2013 at 8:36 am
Saw this on FB–seems to be directed to the antis
“The most complex, difficult decision a woman makes, Isn’t Your’s”
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February 14, 2013 at 7:25 pm
I saw that on FB. I love that quote!
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February 14, 2013 at 10:07 am
Stop using the “wives, mothers, & daughters” rhetorical frame that defines women by their relationships to other people.
In his 2013 State of the Union address, President Obama said: “We know our economy is stronger when our wives, mothers, and daughters can live their lives free from discrimination in the workplace and free from the fear of domestic violence.”
This “our wives, mothers, and daughters” phrase is one he routinely employs, but it is counterproductive to the women’s equality the President is ostensibly supporting.
Defining women by their relationships to other people is reductive, misogynist, and alienating to women who do not define ourselves exclusively by our relationships to others. Further, by referring to “our” wives et al, the President appears to be talking to The Men of America about Their Women, rather than talking to men AND women.
Please consider signing the petition to Mr. President to embrace inclusive language:
Petition[dot]whitehouse[dot]gov
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February 14, 2013 at 5:24 pm
It’s always tragic when somebody dies during a simple medical procedure. Outlaw any medical procedure and it becomes more tragic as people in need will find a way to have it done. I don’t see this story as much related to abortion as I do related to the safety of medical procedures. There are things that are not detectable before a procedure that can lead to death. One that I hear of often is an allergy to anesthesia. I wish her family finds comfort in each other as they grieve for the loss of their loved one. I wish the people in the medical field luck as they continue to find ways to lessen the risks of any and all medical procedures. And I support the pro-choice movement and may abortion always be legal and safe. ❤
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February 15, 2013 at 12:01 pm
Very well said, Mel. I hope you will continue to share your thoughts on future pieces. I post one a week on Sunday afternoons!
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February 10, 2014 at 10:08 am
I’ve never left a comment berfoe but I feel I have to say thank you, at least, for all the work that have gave me so much fun for so long. Muchedsimas gracias. Thank you so much.
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February 14, 2013 at 5:31 pm
On a previous thread, just saying posted the news that prompted discussion of this topic: the death of a woman who was in the third trimester. Third-trimester abortions are extremely risky. What keeps a woman from making a decision until it’s so late?
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February 15, 2013 at 12:05 pm
I dont know the specifics, Charles, of this case but I remember George Tiller telling me how 1) a woman might discover a fetal abnormality very late 2) a woman might have contracted a fatal disease during her pregnancy 3) some minors try to hide the pregnancy and/or are not sure what is going on. There are other circumstances that we cannot even begin to imagine. The point, however, is that these are generally wanted pregnancies. That’s why George had a full time chaplain and had some very special staff people to console the women.
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February 14, 2013 at 8:01 pm
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Occupy-Operation-Rescue/603460646338017
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February 15, 2013 at 6:55 am
New York set to pass a bill..Rape is Rape…http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/02/13/1579841/new-york-rape-is-rape/?mobile=nc
I love women and this why we need more in politics. Trust Women.
As anti-choice politicians seek to narrow the definition of sexual assault to “forcible rape” or “legitimate rape,” lawmakers in New York State are taking the opposite approach — and actually may be prepared to advance a bill that would expand the definition of rape to encompass additional acts of sexual
violence.
Assemblywoman Aravella Simotas (D) first introduced the legislation last year after Lydia Cuomo, a Bronx schoolteacher who was raped by a city cop, discovered that her assaulter wasn’t going to be charged with “rape.”
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February 15, 2013 at 8:41 am
What I say is that the risk comes with the pregnancy not the abortion. No matter what decision a woman makes, there is risk. It may be far less with an abortion, but the risk remains. As you know Pat, I made the same call to you once. It’s devastating to all involved, particularly the nursing staff. But we have to remember that we are performing a medical procedure and despite doing everything right, a bad outcome is always a possibility.
JMV
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February 15, 2013 at 12:07 pm
I remember the call, JMV. It pained me greatly, I could not imagine how staff felt. Meanwhile, down here in Maryland the anti abortion crowd continues to release “information” about the woman who died. They are relentless and they clearly have a mole in the clinic or the hospital. It’s totally disgusting.
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