John Dunkle is an eighty-ish year old anti-abortion activist who makes his base in the Allentown/Reading, Pennsylvania area. For way too many years, he has regularly protested outside of a few abortion clinics in the area and occasionally at the home of clinic staff people.
I became acquainted with Dunkle through this blog. When I posted my stuff, he immediately jumped into the fray. For several years he almost single-handedly carried the banner for the anti-abortion crowd. Of course, we disagreed on everything but I always gave him credit for one thing: he had energy. He always seemed to have an answer, a reply, a zinger to my posts or to the comments from others. While I never agreed with him, I was always candid about my support of his ability to protest at a clinic and even at a house within certain boundaries. Indeed, years ago when the pro-choice groups were lobbying hard for passage of the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act, I took a lot of heat because I felt the First Amendment protected most forms of protest and we ultimately got language in the law saying so.
So, Dunkle regularly ranted and raved. I always found it interesting, however, when another anti-abortion person chimed in because I always thought Dunkle resented someone else barging in on “his” terrain. Then, about 18 months ago, Dunkle signed off. I don’t remember if he gave a reason, but he basically said adios and disappeared. I actually wondered if he was ill.
I will admit that I missed him in some way. I’ve always enjoyed being in the middle of the great abortion debate and I’ve always relished the opportunity to articulate my very strong convictions on this very delicate issue. And I never hid behind the “choice” word. I went right to the meat of the issue and talked about ABORTION. And I took a bunch of hits for doing so.
Then, lo and behold, Dunkle reappears! Like Lazarus rising from the dead, one day he just popped up and commented on a post! WTF?
I welcomed him back, as did some of the other pro-choice commentators. We had a few back and forth repostes, no damage done, then I asked him if he was still out there protesting. He said he was, that he continued to go to two clinics and a house. It was funny because, when I read that, I almost felt sorry for him. I envisioned this worn out activist, lamely standing outside of an abortion clinic, a pathetic sight to behold, shouting to the women as they entered the facility.
And then I asked him if he felt that, after all of these years, he had accomplished anything. His answer was something like that was not for him to judge. He didn’t say he had saved any babies, that he had furthered his cause, that he had made a difference. It sounded like a tired response.
I admire anyone who stands up for a cause, as long as it is done within legal limits. At least that person stands for something and is taking part in our democratic process. But I also think of Dunkle’s family, his kids, his grandkids, his wife and other loved ones who have watched him trek on down to the local abortion clinic every Saturday. I wonder if they think he has accomplished anything?
How sad.



May 4, 2014 at 12:56 pm
I thought he had died since I had not seen his rants here anymore.
I enjoyed reading his inability to defend his position –
Like all the other Anti Life – Anti Choicers!
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May 5, 2014 at 8:28 am
Actually, KC, I thought he might have died also, not that I’d ever wish that on anybody. Can’t wait to see what he has to say about this piece
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May 4, 2014 at 1:16 pm
No uterus, no voice
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May 4, 2014 at 1:47 pm
He has a right to his opinion. I have a right to body autonomy. He has no power over any woman’s right to choose.
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May 5, 2014 at 8:30 am
I agree, Beverly. As a former anti-war protestor I realize that “speech” can be rather ugly and that there needs to be some limitations (crying “fire” in a crowded movie theater), but I also defend the right of anyone to speak their mind, even if the speech is inane.
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May 4, 2014 at 4:27 pm
I’m flattered, Pat. You got almost everything right except two mills and six houses. “The pathetic sight to behold” is effective outside someone’s home though. Who wants an ugly old man standing there with A KILLER LIVES HERE sign?
Be careful about “legal limits.” It was illegal to protect Jews from the chambers and Africans from the nooses.
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May 5, 2014 at 8:34 am
I agree about the “legal limits,” that they must be very carefully drawn. Standing in front of someone’s home still bothers me Doesn’t everyone have a right to enjoy the “peace” of their home? Also, as I pointed out, I just dont know what it accomplishes. Frankly, I think you do it not to “save babies,” but just because you’ve been doing it for eons and it’s a reason for living. If only you would use that time to mentor an underprivileged child or clean up a river bed.
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May 5, 2014 at 12:32 pm
Pat, did you talk to my wife before you wrote this? Except her last sentence would have read,”look after an under-attendedto wife or clean up the basement.”
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May 7, 2014 at 2:13 pm
Was this intentional or not, Pat: “Doesn’t everyone have a right to enjoy the ‘peace’ of their home?”
Sure sounds as if you’re referring to our homes when we started out in this world. Sure we were renters, but renters have rights. You can’t evict them without due process much less kill them.
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May 8, 2014 at 11:11 am
John, I meant does not that abortion clinic worker have a right to have a peaceful environment? What if I came over to your house every night and shouted my lungs out? Would you go along with that? Keep in mind that I do believe what you are doing is free speech to some extent, but there are limits and I wonder if your “speech” should be limited to the clinic and prohibited at the house.
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May 8, 2014 at 1:52 pm
You’re doing now, Pat, what the thousand Todd Stave of VoChoice gathered up to go after me did — threaten to come to my house. As I told them, I’d love it. I like few things so much as talking to my enemies, especially face to face. Nobody ever shows, though.
I think it’s effective visiting the homes of the killers. If that got prohibited, I’d know it was effective.
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May 14, 2014 at 9:50 am
What is your address John?
Would you like to make an appointment to talk?
I like visiting the homes of Anti Life Christian Misogynists.
I like talking to them face to face.
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May 14, 2014 at 4:38 pm
Oops! I forgot to respond to the other three sentences.
#2 Yes. Friday, June 6, 2 PM. Change that to any date and time you want. I’ll give you $100 if you show up.
#3 Bet that’s a lie.
#4 Bet that’s a lie too.
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May 14, 2014 at 10:12 pm
JD,
You can keep your money.
You are probably getting government subsidy as it is.
I’m probably paying taxes to support you.
What a waste!
What numbers are you referring to?
Are you avoiding my questions?
It seems that is the only quality you have – avoidance.
It appears you are actually afraid to have a face to face discussion with a person who has more intelligence than you.
You are happy to stalk other people at their homes,
but you will not give out your own address?
Why not?
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May 15, 2014 at 4:16 am
Peruse the two posts above, JC. Peruse means read carefully.
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May 16, 2014 at 8:38 am
OK –
Again,
The big shot is lying as usual.
He has no desire for face to face discussion.
He cannot do it because he will lose the discussion as he is not intelligent enough to defend his opinion in debate.
Anyone that claims they are happy to debate at their home and stalks women ant their homes and then lies about entertaining visitors to his own home is just a plain misogynist in my opinion.
Looks like everyone agrees.
You don’t have to understand what you are to end up in hell for eternity for what you have done.
Jesus will forgive you, but you must acknowledge that need.
How is your buddy Satan doing?
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May 16, 2014 at 10:39 am
If it turns out that Kathy is also JC, I will not be surprised
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May 27, 2014 at 4:55 am
Always a stupid comment to evade the question –
The sign of a true illiterate
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May 4, 2014 at 6:18 pm
Anti-life ? Who do you really think you are kidding ? A person protests the killing of an unborn baby & you call that person , anti-life ? It’s your position that is indefensible – It doesn’t even make sense !!
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May 4, 2014 at 8:04 pm
Translate this, LDM.
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May 5, 2014 at 8:35 am
I’m with John, what are you saying Big D? Indeed, I’ve never heard anyone called “anti-life”.
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May 8, 2014 at 7:37 am
It sounds like he is referring to the people that oppose abortion and are actually anti life because they typically do not support abortion to save the Mother’s life, and they often oppose legislation to help the impoverished.
Anti choice people tend to support general gun ownership and oppose laws regulating gun usage.
Anti choice people tend to favor the Death Penalty – Anti Life.
Anti choice people do not seem to mind when a wacko Christian goes and murders an innocent person, or when a wacko christian supports language that promotes violence and force against innocent people.
Anti choice people tend to favor wars like the second Iraq war that killed many innocent people for no reason.
Anti choice people tend to believe in the malevolent god of the christian bible,
And so on, and so on.
Antichoice people are generally anti life.
That is my guess.
A
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May 8, 2014 at 11:13 am
Actually, I believe most anti-abortion people do support abortion when the mother’s life is endangered. That’s usually a given. But good points, otherwise.
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May 8, 2014 at 1:55 pm
You’re right, Pat. It’s like a doctor arriving at a car accident. Mother and daughter are bleeding to death and he has enough plasma to save one. Course he could always choose to save the younger one.
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May 11, 2014 at 8:22 pm
Mr. Dumkle
How would the doctor save the 21 week XX chromosome fetus?
You do not make any sense.
Who are you?
A
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May 12, 2014 at 11:51 am
I’ll start at the bottom:
I’m your nemesis.
This sentence contradicts your first one.
I suppose “XX chromosome fetus” means girl fetus, right A? Anything to avoid facing the fact that you’re killing a human being.
He’d save her of course by refusing to rip her up.
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May 13, 2014 at 5:52 am
Interesting way to not answer a simple question.
You are delusional if you think you are anyone’s nemesis.
Thanks for proving once again that no one on the anti choice anti life side of the discussion is able to exhibit a morsel of intelligent thought.
You help the pro choice movement with your every comment, and I thank you for that.
It would be impossible to reveal the massive global ignorance of anti choice anti lifers without their help.
Thanks again!
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May 13, 2014 at 10:47 am
Pat says it much better than I could, A, so here goes:
“Wow, such broad generalizations about the antis! I don’t think you folks are gonna accomplish anything (i.e., a civil debate) when you come out blasting away basically calling all antis morons and worse. Believe me, there are morons on both sides of the issue and lots of extremists.”
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May 13, 2014 at 3:35 pm
Excellent!
Still avoiding the question about the 21 weaker –
Reveals that you are lacking any sustenance to your position.
I love watching anti’s bury themselves with their lack of intelligence.
Antis are all a bunch of boneheads because everyone that comments here never says anything intelligent.
You are the perfect example.
And you avoid questions.
Pathetic.
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May 13, 2014 at 4:07 pm
Ask me that question again A, but omit the window dressing.
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May 14, 2014 at 7:08 am
I love when anti choices reveal how dumb they are by avoiding questions.
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May 14, 2014 at 8:15 am
I wouldn’t put it that harshly, A, but you really should ask the question, not avoid it.
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May 14, 2014 at 9:51 am
It’s right there John.
Are you not able to read?
Thank you for all your contributions for the AntiLife cause.
You are invaluable to the destruction of your own belief system.
It is fun to watch!
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May 14, 2014 at 1:07 pm
You don’t sound as if you’re having fun, A. You sound upset.
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May 14, 2014 at 3:41 pm
Another record breaking answer of no content.
Anyone can write a computer program that behaves as stupidly as the JD avatar.
It is fun reading the rumblings of a non sentient being!
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May 14, 2014 at 4:48 pm
Very interesting, A. “Non-sentient being” is a favorite term of those who want to kill others to solve their problems. You know — I don’t want to kill others, I want to kill non-sentient beings. In other words you’d like to kill me. Think that through, though; I’m a nice old guy who’d probably like you if I met you.
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May 14, 2014 at 10:15 pm
Innacurate John,
No one wants to harm you.
No one has ever said anything to that effect.
However, YOU,
Have mentioned many things that conjure an image of support for force against people you disagree with.
And you advocate and support convicted murderers.
You even admire murderers.
That is what you have written many, many times.
And you still are too afraid to answer a question.
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May 15, 2014 at 4:30 am
No I’m not. But the D’s have asked so many questions and buried them all in mountains of vituperation that I have no idea which one they want answered. And when I ask, they all do what you just did, JC. They refuse to answer and add more vituperation.
Now, I know why that happens. In forming the question the D’s see how the obvious answer will make them look bad. So they add another, and the same thing happens, and that continues.
You see, JC, often we don’t know what we mean till we see what we say, and the D’s are not happy when they begin to understand themselves.
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May 16, 2014 at 8:41 am
Is this John real?
No one on the planet is this dumb.
I think it is a made of figure to have fun on a blog.
You people are discoursing with a fake character.
No one is this stupid.
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May 16, 2014 at 10:43 am
Yes she is, Kate. You.
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May 27, 2014 at 5:00 am
Yes Kate,
Anti choicer – Anti Lifers really r That dumb.
They destroy there cause, it is a riot to read it happen.
Most have never been educated in the most basic grade knowledge….and it is so obvious how oblivious they are to their own lack of education.
That’s part of being part of the intellectually impoverished.
And they are too lazy to read up on topics they want to pass laws. They are complete idiots.
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May 13, 2014 at 3:31 pm
Anti Choice = Anti Life
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May 13, 2014 at 4:08 pm
Name-calling is boring, A.
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May 14, 2014 at 7:10 am
Telling the truth about the Anti Life movement is educational.
This is why the AntiLifers will fail, and continue to fail as all their lies are revealed.
Thankfully they are very dumb people.
So it is easy to get them to write dumb things.
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May 14, 2014 at 8:16 am
See Pat.
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May 14, 2014 at 9:54 am
JD is a last word freak . . .
Let’s see if he can resist . . .
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May 14, 2014 at 1:08 pm
Good post, Ev, your first.
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May 4, 2014 at 8:11 pm
Oh I see now. Big D is responding to #1,KC. Yeah, KC, who you kidding?
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May 5, 2014 at 8:37 am
Oops, I should have read the thread all the way through. Not really sure what he/she is saying. Hey, Johnnie, are you still protesting in front of the Allentown’s clinic administrator’s house?
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May 5, 2014 at 8:54 am
Yeah, but now she has some other job, and I’m not even sure she still lives there. Pat, do me a favor and find out. I don’t want to waste my time.
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May 5, 2014 at 4:25 pm
John Dunkle – hanging outside of one’s home is creepy. You really should strive to be better than that.
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May 5, 2014 at 6:07 pm
Yeah, but killers hate it. Lots of MD’s don’t turn killers ’cause who wants me around?
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May 5, 2014 at 6:37 pm
Wrong JD – you do not prevent anyone from anything. You do not have that kind of power.
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May 6, 2014 at 3:29 am
That’s moot.
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May 8, 2014 at 11:15 am
Are you telling us, John, that there may be a doctor out there who is considering doing abortions but they won’t do it cause they somehow heard about you? I think you’re giving yourself too much credit.
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May 8, 2014 at 1:57 pm
Maybe I am, but it makes me feel good.
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May 13, 2014 at 3:37 pm
Don’t forget,
John advocates force.
Has advocated for convicted murderers.
Considered a convicted murderer like a son.
Guess what all these lines and many more that JD has said infers?
Is that accurate John?
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May 13, 2014 at 4:10 pm
course not
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May 14, 2014 at 7:12 am
Why is it so easy to catch an anti choicer lying?
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May 14, 2014 at 7:13 am
JD . . .
Do you use social entitlement programs?
I’m trying to figure out how you have o much time to Not make any difference . . .
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May 14, 2014 at 8:19 am
Ev, I never lie, unless I really have to.
Celie, yes.
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May 14, 2014 at 9:56 am
John has been caught in a number of lies on this site.
He has also admired convicted murderers.
Realize the fringe insanity of the mentation of a JD automaton.
His answers cannot even pass a Turing test.
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May 14, 2014 at 1:12 pm
“Turing test,” “mentation”! Adolescents have a hard time thinking but I love their words.
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May 14, 2014 at 3:48 pm
John,
I am pro life.
I find that you are harmful to the coarse we are trying to achieve.
I work every day to save the lives of the unborn and you are unravelling all that work that Jesus tells me to do.
Jesus asks you to stop your cruelty towards others.
You have fallen into the trap placed for you by the pro aborts by not answering questions and acting so silly. I will be happy to answer any question a pro abort has since they think they are so smart.
We are not all dumb. Some people pretend to be pro life.
I went to college . I won’t evade questions, pro aborts.
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May 14, 2014 at 4:55 pm
Take her up on this, boombas. My guess is, though, she is pro-death pretending to be pro-life.
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May 14, 2014 at 10:19 pm
Oh my, John.
I cannot believe you address me this way.
This is more evidence that you have lost the heart of Jesus.
I will pray for you.
From what I have read here you have been Pro Death?
Is that true?
Did you really admire a murderer?
Please tell me that is not true and they are lying.
The thought of a Pro Life person advocating for a murderer is horrible!
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May 15, 2014 at 4:37 am
From what I have read here you have been Pro Death? no
Is that true? no
Did you really admire a murderer? yes
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May 16, 2014 at 8:44 am
John,
From what you write to me I can only be certain of one thing.
I will pray that you can allow Jesus back into your heart and cast Satan out.
It is clear to me that the dark lord has his grasp on you… You must fight him, Jesus is much stronger.
Please allow Jesus back in your life?
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May 16, 2014 at 10:45 am
Dang! She’s everywhere!
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May 27, 2014 at 5:22 am
There it is again,
Proof that a person who claims to be Pro-Life Is actually ProDeath,
Who admires a convicted murderer in 2014?
Crazy Anti Lifers.
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May 8, 2014 at 11:14 am
Sure, John, I’ll get on it right away. I’ll get her address, email, birthdate, etc and send it all to you. Not.
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May 8, 2014 at 1:57 pm
Shoot.
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May 5, 2014 at 8:47 am
I’m still waiting for him to adopt that first unwanted child. Unwanted by him, not by some pregnant woman. Life all so-called “pro-lifers,” he won’t do it.
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May 5, 2014 at 8:56 am
Chuck, didn’t I tell you I’ve adopted seventeen? Or did I say seven.
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May 5, 2014 at 4:24 pm
Good for you John Dunkle! That is wonderful if you adopted children. There are many, right now, waiting…and waiting…and waiting for people to adopt them. Sure wish your anti-abortion friends would provide them the homes and families those kids would cherish.
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May 5, 2014 at 6:10 pm
Otherwise, better help kill them, right, Kimmie?
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May 5, 2014 at 6:39 pm
Wrong again JD. No one here is talking about killing anyone.
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May 5, 2014 at 7:22 pm
That’s what killers have always said and will always say. Something in us humans prevents us from admitting, probably even realizing, the horror. That’s why the Jews were called unterminchlich and the Africans sub-human.
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May 14, 2014 at 7:15 am
I wonder who is going to win the
“Most Illiterate Anti Choice Anti Lifer”
of the year award in 2014.
It appears we have a really solid contender this year.
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May 14, 2014 at 8:21 am
If you do win, Celie, don’t feel bad. You can always change.
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May 8, 2014 at 7:39 am
Congrats!!
Finally, an anti choice person finally adopts some babies.
Why do they never adopt typically?
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May 8, 2014 at 10:39 am
Who’s Typically?
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May 11, 2014 at 8:25 pm
The question is still awaiting as reply.
Why do Anti Choice – Anti Life – Pro Adoption people rarely actually ever adopt?
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May 12, 2014 at 11:55 am
I can only speak for myself and I didn’t adopt anyone because Im not a hero. People who adopt are heroes.
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May 13, 2014 at 5:55 am
Agreed,
It is sad that the people that scream in women’s ears and violate their personal autonomy, that advocate for adoption, never actually adopt themselves.
Again, hypocrites.
It is obvious to all.
This is why they will never win another national election again.
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May 13, 2014 at 10:50 am
Wishful think, Paulie, and what’s this about screaming in women’s ears?
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May 13, 2014 at 3:41 pm
Anti’s scream in women’s ears as a matter of routine.
They scream at women “don’t murder your baby,” when the women is going to her private doctor for a pap smear.
Anti’s abuse women daily by the thousands.
Some even use megaphones.
Isn’t that accurate John?
Aren’t you on a video using a cone to amplify your offensive language to women?
Why would you pretend to not know that fact when you know this as fact?
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May 13, 2014 at 4:21 pm
Ev, you were one of those Pat talked to. Remember: “Wow, such broad generalizations about the antis! I dont think you folks are gonna accomplish anything (i.e., a civil debate) when you come out blasting away basically calling all antis morons and worse. Believe me, there are morons on both sides of the issue and lots of extremists.” Is he wasting his fingers on you?
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May 14, 2014 at 7:16 am
Is it a generalization if it is true?
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May 14, 2014 at 8:25 am
Celie, you’re proof of Pat’s contention — there are morons on both side of the issue.
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May 14, 2014 at 10:00 am
No John,
All this commentary only reveals that you cannot answer a question, you harbor notions that are not consistent with Jesus, and you lie as you admit, and you are not a very nice person as you admire convicted murderers and think it is OK to harass innocent women . . .
And you know there is a whole lot more in your background that is unsavory.
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May 14, 2014 at 1:17 pm
“All this commentary only reveals . . .” Syntax, syntax, Paulie, syntax, syntax.
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May 14, 2014 at 3:51 pm
Evan,
I am pro life, I save the unborn, and using any sort of device to amplify one’s voice into a women’s direction is despicable.
Real pro lifers do not seem to be represented here.
Jesus will end abortion. Jesus asks us to be kind and merciful.
Those who do not follow Jesus choose to say bad things to women.
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May 14, 2014 at 4:58 pm
Evi, didn’t I tell you she is pro-death?
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May 14, 2014 at 10:21 pm
John, Again?
Who are you and why are you so mean to me?
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May 15, 2014 at 4:41 am
I think I’m your only hope.
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May 15, 2014 at 10:50 am
Why are you being so nasty to me John?
I didn’t do anything to you.
Jesus would not approve of the way you write to a woman.
Who are you?
I’m confused….
Are you a Pro Abort trying to pretend to Pro Life?
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May 15, 2014 at 10:52 am
Ms. Fernandez,
Please note what we deal with.
The misogyny is palpable and pervasive.
We see it all day long.
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May 15, 2014 at 11:15 am
Dang, Claire, you sure do sound like Kathy!
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May 16, 2014 at 8:47 am
Ms. Fernandez,
It is best to ignore people on blogs that offer nothing in their comments.
They are rogue and on the fringe.
You will never get anywhere with them.
The best thing to do is ignore a hateful person like John.
He probably is not a real person anyway…
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May 16, 2014 at 10:48 am
You’re wasting your time, C. Nobody ignores me.
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May 16, 2014 at 8:32 am
Mr. Dunkle,
What were you doing during the civil rights movement?
Did you participate?
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May 5, 2014 at 4:07 pm
Right, because ill-timed or poor children don’t deserve to live with their natural parents… just like we wanted ones don’t deserve to have those inconvenient siblings who are aborted supposedly for the reason of giving us a better life.
What do YOU offer pregnant women, other than abortion? When pretty much everybody says “here’s the solution, just get rid of the problem, we’re too young / can’t get married now / your parents will throw you out in the street”, that’s not a choice. That’s just telling poor and financially dependent people their sons and daughters are worthless. It’s teaching women to put a price on their children’s heads. And it’s despicable.
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May 5, 2014 at 4:23 pm
Many pro-choice – MANY – offer pregnant women the very services that anti-choice people claim to offer, but don’t unless they commit to church attendance or relinquishment for adoption. You see, poor little Dejected Embryo, those who are pro-choice stand firm that abortion, parenting, and adoption are the choices pregnant women decide between. In my own experience with women considering abortion, there are several in which they ultimately opted to parent or relinquish for adoption. I personally know the reward of working with women who have made each of these choices. It is not your business, nor is it anyone’s business – certainly not the government’s business. Diapers, food, household supplies, etc. are among the many provisions pro-choice people I’ve been affiliated with have collected for women who chose to parent, regardless of their economic circumstances. Professional legal assistance at no charge, and by lawyers who were not interested in the sick high-profit, exploitative adoption industry, has been provided to women who opted for remaining pregnant and relinquishing their baby for adoption. If you think that pro-choice people provide or promote abortion only, you are truly clueless.
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May 5, 2014 at 6:15 pm
“. . .are the choices pregnant women decide between” — are the choices pregnant women decide among. Right?
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May 5, 2014 at 7:07 pm
You have that correct JD
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May 8, 2014 at 7:40 am
DE,
Please make some sense.
Is abortion ever OK?
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May 8, 2014 at 10:42 am
I think DE’s disappeared, Les, so I’ll answer for him — no.
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May 8, 2014 at 12:44 pm
Got busy with my work. I am a woman, but you are correct, the answer is no.
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May 8, 2014 at 1:59 pm
ah ha
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May 13, 2014 at 3:42 pm
Dejected,
Why is an abortion Not OK for a Partial Molar Pregnancy?
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May 13, 2014 at 4:29 pm
DE got fed up with you guys. Well, actually only one guy, Chuckles. So I’ll have to answer for her:
Do not call a procedure an abortion when it is done to save someone’s life. Today we understand the word “abortion” to refer to a search and destroy mission to kill someone.
Now listen Ira, please — before you ask a question read through the “Replys.” Chances are it will have been answered, and we’d save time.
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May 14, 2014 at 7:25 am
Gosh,
It would be unique to have a literate anti choicer to discuss an issue with.
If one were an English teacher they would understand that words have definitions and using a word properly is the correct thing to do.
Abortion is very well defined.
Just because you are against it-
Doesn’t mean you control the definition of the word.
Just because Christians tend to be heinous violent people doesn’t mean I get to change the meaning of Christian to be a synonym with Pedophilia, Death, War and destruction of humanity.
And I saw earlier you wrote you were not agreeable to abortion for a partial molar pregnancy, why did you change your mind?
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May 14, 2014 at 8:27 am
Do I contradict myself? Yes, I contradict myself.
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May 14, 2014 at 9:12 am
Forgive me, Paulie, but I love this sentence, “If one were an English teacher they would understand that words have definitions and using a word properly is the correct thing to do” because the seventh word illustrates what the writer warns against. But P, you should have followed it up with this question, “What word in that sentence did I deliberately use improperly?
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May 14, 2014 at 10:22 pm
Webster,
I am pro life and am happy to answer any questions so you may understand the true nature of Jesus our Lord.
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May 15, 2014 at 12:45 pm
Web! She’s waaaiting
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May 16, 2014 at 8:50 am
See what antis do?
DE disappears the second a question is asked of them.
Dumb people, they either run, or evade questions.
Good luck with that plan!
They will always lose elections doing that, and that also means they are irrelevant to the conversation.
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May 16, 2014 at 10:55 am
Artie, you stuck this in the wrong place. Fix it.
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May 8, 2014 at 12:57 pm
Why do you think I am not making sense? Deliberately killing unborn humans is never ok. The only scenario where the death of an unborn human is an acceptable loss is when the pregnant woman has to undergo surgery to save her life. But in those extremely rare cases the death of the unborn is not the purpose, just a byproduct. So yes, abortion understood as the deliberate killing of an unborn human is always wrong, just like it is wrong to kill an adult who poses no immediate threat and has not been found guilty of some horrible crime after a fair trial. The only thing unborn humans are “guilty” of is existing.
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May 13, 2014 at 5:58 am
It appears u r massively ignorant of many cases.
Consider that of the cornual pregnancy, as a simple example.
Before making wild conclusions please educate yourself.
Your actions based in ignorance harm people.
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May 8, 2014 at 8:35 am
Dejected Embryo, how many unwanted children are you raising, and how many of them did you adopt?
I thought so.
The underlying problem with the mentality of the so-called “pro-lifers” is that they don’t really care FOR human life; they just care ABOUT it– they want to feel comfortable knowing that everybody else is complying with their abhorrence of death. They don’t want to have their crystal-clear fantasy clouded by children who grow up to revenge themselves on society or who never come close to filling their potential. And that’s where you are– insisting that children be produced in order to satisfy your need to feel good, rather than taking on the the responsibility to see that the next child born gets at least as good a deal, if not a better one, as you did.
There’s right to life, and there’s RESPONSIBLE Right to Life– but nobody’s joined the latter organization.
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May 8, 2014 at 1:15 pm
My circumstances don’t even allow me to adopt children, but did you miss the part where I don’t believe children should be separated from their natural parents?
Of course, if you believe humans should only live if they are wanted by someone, you’ll be perfectly ok with them being abandoned and picked up by whoever wants to do that. My point is that people should learn to not view children as nuisances and obstacles in their great future. And having abortion as a legitimate option sends exactly that message: not ready? get rid of it. How do you expect people to care properly for the children they were taught to dehumanize?
I am in fact supporting both unborn and born children. I donate to a shelter for mothers who have nowhere else to go after their parents kicked them out of the house or the boyfriend dumped them (because that’s what people often do when they think pregnancy is bad). I support helping mothers keep their sons and daughters.
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May 5, 2014 at 10:46 pm
Dear John, you are an inspiration and will be rewarded at the white thrown judgement with a long flowing robe! I am 78 now and looking forward to paradise where 60 million of God’s innocent angels will be singing our praises
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May 6, 2014 at 3:36 am
Not me, dot.They won’t be signing for me. I’m older than you are, still enjoying life, still paying my taxes that have helped and are helping torture them to death. I won’t even think about what’s going to happen to me.
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May 5, 2014 at 10:49 pm
I drove a donated bus out to Father Weslin and we stayed in Allentown on our way to the rescue in N.Y in 1991
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May 6, 2014 at 3:40 am
Damn, dot, I think I was on that bus! With John Arena and his wife? Remember Ironhead?
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May 8, 2014 at 11:18 am
It’s a reunion! Two peas in a pod. How cute.
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May 8, 2014 at 2:01 pm
My mistake. My bus went west, to North Dakota. Woulda been cute though.
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May 7, 2014 at 5:01 pm
We don’t start in this world as “renters.” We start as parasites, implanting ourself in a host (which usually happens to be female, but a male would serve just as well) and produce biochemicals which alter the host’s metabolism to support us.
Unfortunately, one-third of us are tolerated as parasites rather than loved. And quite a few of that one-third have ways of getting back at society for having been assigned that status.
So-called “pro-lifers” cannot bear the thought that they are agitating for parasites. It doesn’t fit their self-description.
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May 7, 2014 at 5:56 pm
Is that so.
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May 8, 2014 at 11:19 am
Save the Parasites!
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May 8, 2014 at 1:22 pm
You’re damn right I can’t bear the thought my parents believe my siblings and I were parasites. And yet they do love me. That’s schizophrenic. How do you propose I should feel about my parents having the right to kill me and expecting me to be ok with this idea?
Maybe people should stop considering others parasites. That would be a good start in having normal family relationships.
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May 8, 2014 at 2:15 pm
Chuckles is a great guy, DE, but his intellectual life is based on four absurdities: 1) You may not save someone’s life unless you are willing and able to support her for her remaining days on earth, 2) You are not alive or you do not deserve to live (he switches) until or unless someone loves you, 3) If you do not support killing people legally before their first birthdays, you must take care of them for the rest of their lives. No. 4 is equally absurd and when I remember what it is, I’ll let you know.
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May 8, 2014 at 4:30 pm
Dejected Embryo, you CAN’T count on someone else to raise a child the way you want it to be raised. If you compel somebody to bear a child without committing yourself to its upbringing, you are doing nobody, especially the child, any favors. All you are doing is indulging your fantasies.
Men and women can– and often do– choose to view a fetus as a baby. It’s when they don’t want to that a child can be predestined for a horrid life. You can’t prevent that by telling them they have to bear it; you can only prevent that by taking on a surrogate pregnancy and then raising it for 18 years.
If you think you can save a fetus, why not start with saving one from prenatal smoking? Tell me what you’ve done to get a pregnant woman to kick the habit and to keep her from sneaking smokes whenever she wants to. It’s a lot harder than being against abortion, isn’t it? Why do so-called “pro-lifers” always take the easy way out?
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May 8, 2014 at 7:26 pm
This is #1.
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May 8, 2014 at 4:39 pm
Dejected Embryo said, “My circumstances don’t even allow me to adopt children, but did you miss the part where I don’t believe children should be separated from their natural parents?”
It’s very comforting to think that children do best when living with their natural parents. However, child protection agencies across America have found that when compelled to return an abused child to its parents as speedily as possible, success rates deteriorate.
So clearly, your preference is at odds with reality, the same way the so-called “pro-lifer” belief that fetuses are homunculi, tiny versions of Einstein or Pope John Paul II. You would rather be comforted in your views than face the years of work, sacrifice and dedication that it takes to make a fetus into a fully-functioning human being.
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May 8, 2014 at 7:29 pm
Also #1.
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May 9, 2014 at 3:18 pm
Who on earth talked about abused children, who I am pretty sure are not newborns? I am talking about supporting mothers to give birth and keep their newborns, so they don’t feel like abortion is the only acceptable solution. Rather then pointing them to the abortion “solution”. Children do best when they live with their natural parents who care for them properly. It’s kinda hard to have people being responsible and caring for their children after you just told them children are something they can choose to keep or get rid of, they don’t have to be responsible, don’t have to care, they can just make an appointment and get rid of all responsibility while it’s still legal.
There is nothing comforting in my pro-life stance. I would prefer not to know that people I love would have had me killed, supposedly for my own good, had I been conceived in different circumstances. I would prefer not to know that about half of my generation is dead before even opening their eyes. But I cannot un-know the truth.
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May 9, 2014 at 8:00 am
John Dunkle wrote: “. . . absurdities: 1) You may not save someone’s life unless you are willing and able to support her for her remaining days on earth, 2) You are not alive or you do not deserve to live (he switches) until or unless someone loves you, 3) If you do not support killing people legally before their first birthdays, you must take care of them for the rest of their lives.. . .”
His loose interpretation of the RESPONSIBLE Right to Life philosophy affirms the self-centered focus of the so-called “pro-lifer.”
1. He deftly shifts the emphasis from a responsibility to nurture a life to an imaginary heroism of “saving” one. A child’s life is truly saved by nurture. Dunkle cannot accept that by his definition the fetus, an “unborn child,” which dies goes to Heaven, and therefore he should praise everyone who has an abortion. He is, by the way, incapable of understanding how bad it is to abandon a dog in a parking lot. If he can’t imagine the pain an animal suffers, he clearly is incapable of understanding the needs of children.
2. He fails to understand there is a difference between “alive” (his term) and “human” (the proper word). He does this willfully; it’s a tactic of his dysfunctional twelve-step movement.
3. He centers all his arguments on death, death, death rather than confront the fact that anyone who wants another child to be born is irresponsible in the extreme unless he or she will take on the task of nurture.
Dunkle has claimed to having adopted “seven. Or seventeen” children. He has also said that he escaped the Holocaust.
His whole so-called “pro-life” career has in truth centered on bullying pregnant women and ignoring the needs of children at risk.
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May 9, 2014 at 11:27 am
“Dunkle cannot accept that by his definition the fetus, an “unborn child,” which dies goes to Heaven, and therefore he should praise everyone who has an abortion.”
I don’t believe this is Absurdity #4 because I don’t think I’ve heard it before, so let’s call it #5: It is a holy act to kill someone before she is responsible for her actions because then she will go to heaven.
For one thing killing an innocent person is a horror; to say it is praiseworthy is absurd. For another, if you kill her before birth, she won’t go to heaven because of Original Sin. The Church used to suggest she would go to Limbo and I think that’s a pretty good suggestion.
Yep, Absurdity #5. Help me here, Chuck, I still can’t remember #4.
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May 9, 2014 at 3:00 pm
Absurd indeed. I am Orthodox and as such do not believe in this Original Sin deviation, but the Church has never taught unbaptized people can go to heaven. It is unclear where the aborted go but it would be illogical to assume they would immediately go join the Church Triumphant (the faithful who have passed, that is). That’s just wishful thinking.
Anyway, should someone like me, from a socialist republic, also praise the communists who made so many martyrs in Eastern Europe? I mean, there were all those people killed by atheists solely for their faith (apart from those killed for other reasons) who clearly went to heaven, because if it’s one sure way to get to heaven it’s through martyrdom. What about Syria or African countries, should we praise the Islamists who kill Christians there?
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May 9, 2014 at 3:24 pm
I think we are wasting our time with this person. Anyone who deplores the fate of children at risk while claiming it’s good to kill the unwanted ones is either a total hypocrite or in such deep denial that he won’t listen to anything.
I wish you all the best. God bless!
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May 16, 2014 at 8:52 am
DE you are another moron.
You cannot even answer simple questions like every other AntiLifer.
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May 16, 2014 at 10:58 am
Artie, are you in study hall?
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May 9, 2014 at 5:05 pm
I just told Chuck I think your deep denial charge is on the money, but it didn’t show. . But hey, Chuck’s had a hard life. I realize that’s no excuse ’cause I had one too and look how great I turned out.
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May 10, 2014 at 4:28 pm
I knew this blog would be fun. That’s why I couldn’t stay away. But I like action and it’s slowed way down since I used to visit regularly, so let me see if can get it jump started. Just came across this, I think from the beginning of January. DCH evidently didn’t answer Evan’s questions, so I will, in brackets:
Evan Says: Dr. Colleen Haussecker . . . I have never come across a single intelligent anti choicer – I am guessing here is one out there, but I won’t hold my breath. Maybe you are the first?
Most Antis take a dogmatic position without educating themselves on the issues.
1) Is a blastomere cell a baby? [no]
Is a blastomere biopsy OK? [no]
2) Is abortion OK for a Cornual Pregnancy? [no]
3) Is abortion OK for a Partial Molar Pregnancy? [no]
4) Should women be allowed to use Hormonal Birth Control? [no]
5) If you disagree with abortion and think it is murder what penalty would you like to see for women that obtain the Abortion Pill on their own? [jail first, then execution]
6) Should Women have access to present infertility treatments? [no]
7) You write:
“I donot believe it is ever right to take another life at any time under any circumstance.”
What do you think about the Bush ’43 War debacle that cost taxpayers $2-3 trillion? [terrible]
Was it OK to kill OBL, or to Bomb near Hitler’s shelter during WWII? [no and yes]
8) Should an 11 year old girl that was raped by her father be allowed an abortion? [no] Or should the child be forced to gestate to term and possibly loose her life or womb? [yes]
9) Is it OK to kill the pregnancy that implants in the abdomen? [A “pregnancy” doesn’t implant in the abdomen. A person implants.]
10) Is it OK for a woman with Cervical Cancer stage IIb to be treated properly? [yes] Even though that means killing the pregnancy? [You don’t kill a pregnancy. You kill a person. no]
11) You write:
“I can’t say I have talked to very many people that have had an abortion that feel it was the right choice and do not suffer emotional trauma from doing so.”
Your personal experience is probably accurate given your predisposition. However the data is very clear. Are you employing the classical faulty logic of Personal Incredulity to trump well established fact? [huh?]
12) You also wrote:
“And you may say that the fetus isn’t a living human being.”
Who are you addressing? [me, for one] Who are you stipulating wrote what you said they wrote? [you, for another]
13) Is the IUD OK? [no]
14) Is The Morning After Pill OK? [no]
15) Should the fertilized single cell egg be given the same rights of a citizen as a full grown adult woman? [no]
It would be a grand pleasure to have an educated anti choicer finally opine on this site.
It is so boring writing to complete morons. [Ain’t so bad! I just did it. So did Pat below.]
Tx!!! 😉
1 Terry Says: Don’t hold your breath Evan!! Antis are never able to answer the simplest of questions. They always evade questions. Watch, this one will either not answer, or evade with the usual droll regurgitated nonsense, I guarantee it.
2 Kale Says: Good luck, anti choices are too dumb to answer a question . .
3 Harley Says: Stupid anti lifers. Can’t answer a simple question after they run their mouth!!!
4 Tali Says: Why are christians so stupid? All the time!!
Pat Richards Says: Wow, such broad generalizations about the antis! I don’t think you folks are gonna accomplish anything (i.e., a civil debate) when you come out blasting away basically calling all antis morons and worse. Believe me, there are morons on both sides of the issue and lots of extremists. And, Tali, I find your comment particularly galling, calling folks like me, yes, me, “stupid”.
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May 11, 2014 at 8:33 pm
1) Why is a Blastomere not a baby if a fertilized egg is considered a baby by many Anti Lifers?
2) Why would you not allow the life of a woman to be saved by aborting a corneal pregnancy that will likely kill the mother?
3) Why would you let a mother die from a partial molar pregnancy?
4) Why should women not be allowed to use the Hormonal Pills if it is indicated for decreasing their risk of Ovarian cancer if they have the gene that allows the risk to be reduced to 10% rather than 80% by this one simple intervention?
5) How would you pay for jailing and executing millions of women and all the babies they left behind when no one is willing to pay for the present number of prisoners?
If it was an offense that carried potential capital punishment wouldn’t you have to check every woman after every menstruation as you would be missing a lot of women that got abortion if you did not . . .
6) Why would you not allow the infertility intervention of a posit coital test?
I’ll stop there to see if you are competent to answer the most basic of questions that a 12 year old that git a C in biology could answer correctly.
Reveal you have some intelligence and you are not a complete anti life moron.
It would be such a relief to see the first one.
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May 11, 2014 at 8:34 pm
Why are these antis soooooo dumb all the time??
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May 12, 2014 at 7:40 am
Make yourself #5, Cas, right after Tali above.
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May 13, 2014 at 3:46 pm
They basically are all uneducated idiots.
It is always obvious, they rarely have an education in science or biology above the third grade.
Bunch of idiots.
Boring idiots.
At least they reveal everyday how dumb they are.
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May 13, 2014 at 5:23 pm
Time for you to go, Ev.
Elena, wasn’t it a rule here that no one could post before entering ninth grade?
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May 14, 2014 at 10:04 am
John,
You have the intellect of an inchworm compared to mine.
This is why you cannot answer simple questions and you routinely make it obvious that you have zero knowledge to support your bizarre opinions.
I only waste my time here, as it creates a nice record for the world to see how pathetic your positions are.
Yes, Please keep responding without addressing the issue.
It continues to add to the tome of written fact that you know nothing, as your compatriots know nothing.
The violent Christian Terrorists that murder the innocents are also a bunch of evil know nothings.
They have already lost their battle and destroyed their own political party doing so.
It is a blessing to watch these animals play it out.
Thanks for all the endless laughs!!
😉
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May 14, 2014 at 1:23 pm
“I only waste my time here” — irony, right Ev? Actually you love it.
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May 14, 2014 at 3:55 pm
I am an intelligent pro life advocate.
I am happy to answer all the questions the people that are pretending to be pro life avoid.
They make the rest of us appear uneducated.
We do not believe in killing a blastomere cell because it is alive and we are Pro Life! Not Pro Death. So there.
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May 14, 2014 at 5:03 pm
Hey! That’s pretty good, CM.
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May 14, 2014 at 10:29 pm
Conseula,
Thank you.
I am suspecting you might be a JD avatar but I will try.
You are against killing a blastomere cell because it is life?
Why are you against this.
The forming morula ends up being a blastomere consisting of many blastomere cells. Why are you against killing one of those cells?
Why would you not be against killing a skin cell?
It is alive also and has Human DNA in it.
Please support your position.
I am very skeptical.
I have yet to meet a single anti choicer that could support their positions by being educated.
It would be amazing if you were the first one of millions.
As you can tell JD just avoids simple questions because he cannot answer them. He only reveals a lack of education.
If an anti choicer could support their cause it would their cause.
Thank you for being seemingly reasonable.
Most antis are a bunch of crazy moron demented lunatics.
It will be a relief to meet the first educated anti.
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May 15, 2014 at 6:03 am
Evan,
Thank you for the opportunity to answer your questions.
I am very educated on these topics.
You will find that in Jesus there are answers.
I am embarrassed by what I read by some of the other Pro Life people here. Pro Life people are not, by nature violent. I can understand why you pro aborts here might think that from what I have read here.
Very simply.
The blastomere cell has a complete set of human DNA in it.
It is Human.
To kill it is murderous, and wrong, and not what Jesus would do.
How could you defend killing an innocent cell that will form into a person in a very short term??
Regards,
Conseula
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May 15, 2014 at 7:43 am
Hey, not bad, not bad, C. But change “cell” in the last paragraph to “person” and drop the subordinate clause.
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May 16, 2014 at 8:56 am
Consuela,
Tx for your reply.
It appears you may have been sick during some of your high school biology classes.
A single blastomere cell can easily be removed and development will continue just fine, and then a birth, and then a person.
So how could removing an unnecessary cell in the development process be killing a person if a person still develops?
I appreciate you not being a lunatic so far like most other anti lifers.
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May 16, 2014 at 12:26 pm
Common Kathy, Ev wrote this early this morning. What’s he supposed to do — wait two days before your respond?
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May 20, 2014 at 9:33 am
Hello Evan,
I’m highly educated in biology.
The blastomere has a soul.
That is why it should not be murdered.
What so hard to understand about that?
—
John,
I don’t know who you are, but please stop saying mean things too me or about me.
I’m beginning to believe you are a real misogynist.
You harm everything I work for.
Please stop.
It is difficult to discuss an issue with your inane comments.
Everybody.
John does not represent the voice of life.
Please understand that people who defend life do not support murderers or be mean to women they do not know.
It is very simple and logically internally consistent.
Our Lord would never approve of what he has written to me.
John’s notion are completely antithetical to the pro life cause.
I pray that Jesus may enter his heart one day so he can be blessed and his immortal soul saved.
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May 20, 2014 at 10:39 am
Kathy, to Evan, you didn’t answer his questions.
to me, at least this made sense — “You harm everything I work for.” The work of a spy is to undermine the opposition and since a spy is what you are, I sure hope I am harming what you do.
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May 12, 2014 at 7:38 am
I’ll answer two now and the other four later.
1) I don’t like to use the word “baby” in these cases because that word brings up an image of a much older person. I use “person” for both. They ain’t carrots for sure.
2) If a doctor determines that the woman’s life is in danger because, for example, of a bursting fallopian tube, he may remove the pathologically damaged tube and as a result the younger person would die.
This is profoundly different from the search and destroy mission which is what these day we mean my “aborting.”
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May 12, 2014 at 11:10 am
I gave you a while to respond to those first two, Paulie, but I guess you’d prefer to be overwhelmed:
3) Why would you let a mother die from a partial molar pregnancy? [I wouldn’t. See #2.]
4) Why should women not be allowed to use the Hormonal Pills if it is indicated for decreasing their risk of Ovarian cancer if they have the gene that allows the risk to be reduced to 10% rather than 80% by this one simple intervention? [That would be fine, so long as she stopped engaging in sexual intercourse.]
5) How would you pay for jailing and executing millions of women and all the babies they left behind when no one is willing to pay for the present number of prisoners? [Jail ten. Execute two. That’s all it would take.]
If it was an offense that carried potential capital punishment wouldn’t you have to check every woman after every menstruation as you would be missing a lot of women that got abortion if you did not . . . [Nah, you wouldn’t have to do that. The law itself is a great teacher. Look how it taught most of us to be OK with murder.]
6) Why would you not allow the infertility intervention of a posit coital test? [Explain this.]
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May 13, 2014 at 6:14 am
Darn,
I was hoping for some sign of intelligence.
1) if the blast omers cell is a person, are you suggesting that when there are 64 blast more cells clumped together that might eventually develop into one fetus that there really are 64 persons present at that moment?
2) It appears you are ignorant to cornual pregnancies. Please address the question regarding cornual pregnancy. It is very different.
3) your original answer was that abortion was Not OK for a partial molar pregnancy … Which of your answers are you choosing to be your answer?
4) You don’t seem to have any knowledge of abortion rates in societies where there already is a death penalty for abortion and you failed to answer the question again.
5) What is there to explain?
It only appears you are a complete illiterate ignorant in regards to understanding any basic facts – yet you have strong dogmatic opinion without any foundational knowledge.
Why be so dumb when it is not that hard to educate yourself?
Thanks for revealing how stupid the average anti choice person is again.
That tomb of fact is now equal to the number of ignorant anti choice morons running amok.
No wonder they are all so illiterate of high school biology.
Thanks again for revealing the massive ignorance in the AntiLife AntiWomen community!
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May 13, 2014 at 10:55 am
I knew you’d be overwhelmed, Paulie. What Pat said applies to you too:
Wow, such broad generalizations about the antis! I don’t think you folks are gonna accomplish anything (i.e., a civil debate) when you come out blasting away basically calling all antis morons and worse. Believe me, there are morons on both sides of the issue and lots of extremists.
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May 13, 2014 at 3:49 pm
So obvious when uneducated people try and assert a position that they are not smart enough to support.
So predictable.
At least it is documented so the world may sees the idiocy of the average anti lifer.
A translation of JD comment:
Duh . . . I have no idea what I am talking about.
I am not educated in science and biology, yet I will maintain my absurd position.
JD, this is why your ilk will always fail.
You will pass, and have achieved nothing in life.
Go for it.
It is laughable.
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May 13, 2014 at 4:32 pm
You sound angry, Paulie, not amused.
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May 14, 2014 at 10:07 am
Paul, It is laughable when the mentally handicapped cannot support their positions.
It is fun to watch them destroy their ignorant cause though.
Watch how dumb they are.
They will keep doing it, and reveal they cannot answer any questions at all.
As has been proven literally millions of times the simple questions are asked and the anti-lifers get a glazed look in their eyes and try and fail to evade 3rd grade questions.
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May 14, 2014 at 1:26 pm
Gotta be — Evie/Paulie is the same 8th grader.
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May 20, 2014 at 9:24 am
Yes,
Antis are just plain uneducated.
It is funny to watch them try and use their diminished mental capacity and fail every time.
And they think they are smart!
It’s hilarious!
I Love it!
Keep up the good work go letting Antis destroy themselves by their stupidity!
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May 20, 2014 at 5:00 pm
“Keep up the good work go letting Antis destroy themselves by their stupidity!”
Keep up the good work. Let the Antis destroy themselves by their stupidity!
I prefer literate enemies.
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May 12, 2014 at 8:26 am
Well, John, you have certainly stirred things up as usual. ,
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May 12, 2014 at 9:01 am
Bet you’d stop sending my checks if I turned sweet.
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May 13, 2014 at 3:51 pm
I would like to thank John.
I saw this on FaceBook.
I didn’t realize how uneducated and illiterate anti choices were.
This is an amazing revelation.
I am (was until now) a Republican . . . but now I am definitely voting Democrat if this is a large part of the GOP base.
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May 13, 2014 at 4:37 pm
Say it ain’t so, Cath. Now we’ll never win!
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May 14, 2014 at 9:53 am
Finally!
An intelligent comment from JD!
The very first!!
JD finally realized he will never win!
A wasted life to accomplish nothing!
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May 14, 2014 at 1:41 pm
Evan: It is so boring writing to complete morons.
Terry: Antis are never able to answer the simplest of questions. They always evade questions. Watch, this one will either not answer, or evade with the usual droll regurgitated nonsense,
Kale: Good luck, Anti choices are too dumb to answer a question . .
Harley: Stupid anti lifers. Can’t answer a simple question after they run their mouth!!!
Tali: Why are christians so stupid? All the time!!
Tali: every christian i meet that believes what their bible says has been really stupid. I don’t know what to say. If they (you?) believe that bible then you believe really stupid things.
Please, Elena, if you post anything more by the five dummies above, or there ilk, follow it with Pat’s comment:
Pat: Wow, such broad generalizations about the antis! I don’t think you folks are gonna accomplish anything (i.e., a civil debate) when you come out blasting away basically calling all antis morons and worse. Believe me, there are morons on both sides of the issue and lots of extremists. And, Tali, I find your comment particularly galling, calling folks like me, yes, me, “stupid”.
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May 14, 2014 at 2:03 pm
Good grief! “There” in paragraph 7 should be “their.”
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May 15, 2014 at 6:09 am
JD, why are you ‘galled’ by an impeachment of your intellect?
You have never revealed any intellect.
You only reveal a lack of knowledge.
You appear to be very uneducated.
If you were educated you could answer some of the questions posed to you.
Instead you try and make stupid jokes, you lie, you evade,and then you stalk women and brag about it.
You admire murderers and brag about it.
Where in there does one ever glean any evidence that you have any education at all?
Obviously you won’t answer this question correctly because you are not capable. You might try and be witty, but that will fail also.
If you write anything, it most likely will be more documentation of your lost cause. So go for it!!
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May 20, 2014 at 9:37 am
Of coarse an educated anti life anti choicer cannot give an intelligent reply to your comment Evan….
They just don’t have the brain power.
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May 20, 2014 at 3:03 pm
Check out what Pat says in #5, T.
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May 15, 2014 at 6:15 am
I am Pro Life and I deplore the violent and idiotic commentaries made by other people pretending to Pro Life on this page.
Pro Life = Anti Gun
= Anti War
= Anti Violence
= Anti harming women if you disagree with them
= Anti Death Penalty
If you have not learned and accepted the teachings of Jesus then you are not Pro Life.
Those here that claim that have been misled and have Satan firmly in their hearts.
I will pray for them as well.
The path to Jesus is an easy one. I recommend everyone walk in his footsteps.
I am also educated in biology and am happy to answer any question a Pro Abortion person seeks to throw my way. I am tired of reading people’s writings that cause immense harm to the movement to save lives.
Thank you for allowing an engaging forum for discussion.
Yours is unique, on FB also!!
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May 15, 2014 at 8:06 am
Michael, you sound as if you’re another D so I’ll address the following to you as well as to Paulie, Evan, Ira, Consuela, PA-LA, Celia, Aaron, JC, and any of the other D’s I’ve missed.
Pat’s been very nice to y’all. He sees your weaknesses and tries gently to correct them. But you don’t listen. I’ll bet I quoted Pat a half-dozen times above and almost immediately you fall into the same pit he’s trying to lift you out of.
So now I’m going to quote another on your side who is not so gentle. When A said this years ago, he cleared out another set of D’s just like yourselves. But I hope you’ll have the guts to swallow his words and fight on anyway. Rationally this time, please. Here goes:
A. Liggins Says:
December 6, 2010 at 11:07 am
I have to wonder why it is that so many people are responding to Mr. Dunkle’s posts. Whomever John Dunkle is, he or she obviously is enjoying the attention everyone is heaping upon his rhetoric. He needles people into becoming his pawns in a game of words that ends with you all you looking like mad, angry idiots.
Ignore the man. He’ll go away eventually. Let him have the last word, if it means so much to him. It is clear he is very much enjoying these interactions he precipitates by making rude comments on this site. And you all fall right into the trap, and let him needle you into his game. It’s silly, manipulative, and childish.
Ignore him. He’ll go away eventually.
Sure, calling you “mad, angry idiots” is harsh, and I wouldn’t do it, true or not. But buckle up, don’t run (unless I tell you to).
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May 16, 2014 at 9:03 am
Wow, you are one bizarre, deluded, ego driven crazy dude if you actually believe you have that effect on others.
Is liggins a famous thinker?
Who is liggins? A philosopher? 2010?
What are you writing about?
You make very little sense.
I am ashamed that you appear to represent the pro life side.
Please stop?
You are causing great harm to efforts I personally place a lot of time into.
Are you an Athiest or something?
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May 16, 2014 at 11:17 am
Is liggins a famous thinker? [I never heard of him before. Does he have to be a famous thinker to see what’s obvious?]
Who is liggins? [Don’t know.]
A philosopher? [Don’t think so.]
2010? [That was during my first stint on this blog. Lig was addressing a different set of D’s. Same should be said to these, though. That’s why I brought it back.]
What are you writing about? [the American holocaust]
Please stop? [Is this a question?]
Are you an Atheist or something? [no]
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May 20, 2014 at 9:40 am
Michael,
See what we have to deal with.
We have yet to see an Anti Lifer answer any questions.
They just run and evade.
Pathetic intellectual worms.
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May 20, 2014 at 3:01 pm
Check out #17, T.
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May 15, 2014 at 4:56 pm
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May 16, 2014 at 11:50 am
Why do i have the feeling that there are some pro-choicers who are just masquerading as pro-lifers on this blog just to stir it up?
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May 16, 2014 at 12:33 pm
I used to think so, Pat, till I recognized the voice of someone from Reading who everyone else thinks is pro life but who I think is a plant, a spy for the killing industry.
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May 20, 2014 at 9:41 am
Is JD a plant?
Is he real?
It is very difficult to believe that.
His comments are too absurd for that to be a real person…
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May 20, 2014 at 4:55 pm
Is JD a plant? [Yes, a rose, sometimes mistaken for a cabbage.]
Is he real? [Existentially?]
It is very difficult to believe that. [Figures.]
His comments are too absurd for that to be a real person. [How would you know?]
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May 21, 2014 at 5:45 am
Let me amend my response to this, Pat: “Why do i have the feeling that there are some pro-choicers who are just masquerading as pro-lifers on this blog just to stir it up?”
Here’s my new response: You’re right, Pat, because I recognize one of the voices. She’s a spy for the killing industry. I’m the only one so far who knows that.
But she’s not here to stir things up. She’s here to continue engaging in her behind-the-back attacks. She’s afraid to talk face to face.
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May 17, 2014 at 4:10 pm
I don’t understand .
Why would you title an article about Dunkle returns?
Why give a person that admits to admiring convicted murderers any platform at all?
Clearly, anyone that thinks of a convicted murderer as a ‘son’ is a stark raving maniacal sociopathic lunatic more deserving of of neuroleptic meds than a blog comment …?
Help me understand the logic behing the lack if logic of the clinically illiterate insane?
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May 17, 2014 at 4:58 pm
Christian: “I don’t understand.”
Obviously, and you’re probably one of those who never will. However, I won’t close the door on anybody. But please, don’t write. Listen. And in ten years write. Then you might be worth listening to.
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May 20, 2014 at 9:46 am
Why attack me when you don’t know me?
Wouldn’t it be easier to explain than being so egotistically pedantic?
What do you base any of your authority on to write that way to others?
Who are you?
If this is an open Blog I will write as i please you idiot.
Are you the admin of this site, John, you dumbass?
You r dumber than a fart.
I just read what you write.
You r a fool.
Deluded into thinking you have some power.
I doubt you even have power over your own bladder!
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May 20, 2014 at 10:30 am
C, I think you missed this: “He needles people into becoming his pawns in a game of words that ends with you all you looking like mad, angry idiots.”
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