This Sunday’s New York Times featured a story about the next generation of abortion doctors. Generally speaking, it was a rather positive report on how more doctors are incorporating abortion services into their regular practice. Good stuff.
I always found the discussion of the declining number of abortion doctors very interesting. We all know that for many years, pro-choice groups were very concerned about the “graying” of the abortion doctors, i.e., how so many of them were getting up there in years. Working in the field, I was aware of those doctors and, frankly, sometimes it almost scared me to see how old some of them were.
Some of those doctors were hanging in there because they knew that if they left, the clinic would close. Or at least they thought that’s what would happen. But other doctors kept performing abortions because that was all they knew and it just kept them busy. Like so many American workers, they did not want to retire and fade into the distance. And, yes, some abortion doctors still wanted or needed to make money, so they kept putting off retirement.
Now, when a doctor did retire it may have resulted in a clinic closing. But, that doctor may have retired because the number of patients going to that clinic kept decreasing and it was getting hard to make ends meet. That clinic may have soon closed anyway. And in my experience it was very rare that a doctor retired and the clinic wound up closing because they could not find a replacement.
Indeed, there was the other side of the coin – cities where there were too many abortion doctors. I can recall vividly getting calls from doctors who were looking for work in abortion facilities in cities like New York, Chicago, and Los Angeles. In those parts of the country, there was a surplus of doctors. At times, I was able to convince those doctors to take a position on some more isolated area and fly in for two or three days work. But others just couldn’t find work.
One interesting thing to me regarding this whole debate was the statistic put out by the pro-choice groups which said something like “87% of the counties in the country do not have an abortion provider.” Well, that was probably true, but abortion is such a specialized field and it should come as no surprise that you’re not going to find a doctor or a clinic in every Podunk town in America. After all, think about other specialties. Do you think there are retinal surgeons in every town or even a dermatologist?
To me, the issue was always access. If a woman wanted an abortion, could she get one? Of course it is hard to prove how many women did not get an abortion because there wasn’t a doctor nearby but my educated guess is that most women who wanted an abortion got one. Yes, they may have had to travel a few hours to a clinic, like in states like North Dakota, but my sense also is that these women also often had to travel great distances for other services. That is just the nature of the beast in rural parts of the country.
So, I’m certainly encouraged that there may be more abortion doctors coming up the chain but I also have the sense that they might wind up gravitating to where the patients are. Meanwhile, we will still have issues in Idaho, Wyoming, South Dakota, but for the most part women who are looking for abortion services will be able to get them.


July 19, 2010 at 11:18 am
Good summary and comment as usual, Pat. My job, though, is to point out what’s wrong with the Times article, as I began doing in that other posting. Mainly what’s wrong with it is the Catholic issue. Kayhaitcher Balezon finds two “Mario Cuomo Catholics,” Godfrey and Ann, and builds her article around them. Believing, practicing Catholics abhor child killing. They would not kill children themselves, as Godfrey does, nor would they aid and abet a killer, as Ann does.
More to follow.
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July 19, 2010 at 6:08 pm
I have to agree with John about the “believing, practicing Catholics.” Rather than rip their little arms and legs off in the womb, they would abuse them for years and turn them into adults with loads they dumped on everybody around them. One of them shot my sister in the face. It was a good thing it was only a pellet gun…. The undiagnosed bi-polars had it the worst. Married to good Catholic women who assumed they were normal, most of them went for years without medical attention. Usually they got focused on after their kids were taken by the state…
Those adult outcomes are what happen to children whose parents aren’t given the control of the number of children they know they can raise well. John Dunkle cannot connect with the idea that parents need to be able to raise their children well.
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July 19, 2010 at 7:08 pm
Evidently, Charles, you married someone who wasn’t able to raise her child. Don’t you think maybe you should shut up?
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July 19, 2010 at 8:32 pm
OUCH…..
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July 19, 2010 at 10:27 pm
Dunkle butthole,
loosing your cool demeanor?
Your tricky sneaky trickster riddler prose? Correct my grammar and deflect and evade as is your style you idiot.
You are a lost cause!
You will die of old age, probably in prison, and have wasted your life harming people and accomplishing nothing.
What a wasted life, you could have done so much good. Your God will shine a favorable light upon you.
You are the fool everyone thinks you are, I cannot wait to you have a rude awakening.
“Shut up?”
You have proven yourself a Fraud,
by your own admission,
trying to steal money from a CHristian organization doing good work!
A supporter of murderers,
A Flag Burner,
A harasser of women, probably a stalker, depends how one reads the law,
You constantly couch your words in riddles so they are not understood, or to keep you out of trouble, when we all know what your really are,
You are a FUCKING LOSER.
And you tell this decent human being to Shut Up?
Yes there are times when an explicative is appropriate.
You are not only a weirdo creep, you are trying to pass off as intellectual, where an imbecile resides, with the mental capacity of a severe chromosomal defect.
You waste the Oxygen in the atmosphere, all 21% of it.
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July 20, 2010 at 4:21 am
Jilly, don’t you think maybe you should grow up?
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July 20, 2010 at 10:29 am
I agree. There’s no reason for that kind of language. Kick jilly off…
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July 21, 2010 at 2:11 am
I think you should stop stalling and lurking around neiborhoods where no one wants you cause they are afraid you may rape their children you freak.
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July 20, 2010 at 8:50 pm
Shut up?
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July 19, 2010 at 8:31 pm
Hey, why didn’t this article come out on top of the Palin piece? You’re burying me again!!! The way it has always worked is my latest bit of brilliance was the first to be seen. What gives???
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July 19, 2010 at 10:54 pm
Fabulous!
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July 20, 2010 at 5:24 am
John Dunkle, at post #3: If you’d had six more kids (for a total of eleven), you’d have a better idea of how easy it is to raise well all the children you want born.
As it is, unlike you I will not try to compel any woman to bear a child who drifts so closely as I did to a lifetime of perversion or insanity or a death by suicide.
“Shut up”? I’d call that a touche moment….
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July 20, 2010 at 8:29 am
I can’t believe unemployment is so high and we need jobs all over the country. I guess people really don’t want to work.
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July 20, 2010 at 10:29 am
what exactly are you trying to say, Chris?
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July 21, 2010 at 6:10 am
he’s/she’s spamming, that’s all
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July 20, 2010 at 10:30 am
Why is there a picture of the front page of the NY Times with an article about the titanic sinking?
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July 20, 2010 at 6:00 pm
Metaphor, Pat. The ship represents baby-killing America. Boy do I hope you’re one of the ones who found the life boat.
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July 20, 2010 at 8:52 pm
Wrong, Dunkle
Care to make an educated understanding?
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July 21, 2010 at 12:50 pm
The ship represents “baby-killing America”? Now, John, that is quite a stretch, no?
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July 21, 2010 at 2:10 pm
Sure, a stretch.
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July 21, 2010 at 2:13 am
Dunkle can’t ,
He will be wrong again and his child brain can’t take it.
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July 21, 2010 at 6:03 am
This blog is turning into high school ho ho. I’m too old.
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July 21, 2010 at 12:51 pm
I totally agree with John. I am sick and tired of people coming in a calling John names. I dont care if you think you’re right. At least John has the balls to particiipate on this blog. Quit the name calling folks….
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July 21, 2010 at 4:43 pm
Pat, we get along good, even though you’re wrong and I’m right. Come on to Reading. We can make bundle in real estate. It’s wide open around here.
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July 23, 2010 at 1:17 pm
It’s depressing to know that I’m wrong. Maybe I’ll just quit and retire now.
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July 22, 2010 at 9:37 am
Yeah Pat, i agree with you, i thought this would be a web site where you would come to expose your ideas and get other people ideas as well but it is boring now in special with those ads in between.
Abortion is a serious matter and should have the respect of the subject.
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July 23, 2010 at 1:18 pm
Thanks for expressing that, Kim. I totally agree with you. I hope you will stick with it and continue to comment….
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July 22, 2010 at 9:39 am
I don’t see the relativity of the Titanic picture with the text that Pat posted. Weird!
What Titanic has to do with abortion?
Duh
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July 23, 2010 at 1:20 pm
I wonder if the manager of this blog just wanted to put a picture of the New York Times up there because I referred to a NYT article? Not sure…
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July 22, 2010 at 10:00 am
It is amazing what we can learn when we get involved in a discussion like abortion, i am one of those people that i like to learn and i love to know more about what i am going to talk about it, so today i went to google to find out which state has more abortion clinics in US but instead i came across another web page, that also give me some numbers on abortion, but was kind of intriguing to see the statistics that they have available to us “curious” people out there, whoever wants to find out more, go to:
abortionno . org
I spaced the . org because otherwise my post won’t come up…
Even though there was a few changes on this web page, the few adults that really takes the matter of abortion seriously, let’s keep the good talk please…
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July 23, 2010 at 1:22 pm
I worked in the field for years, Sonia, and the majority of clinics are, of course, where the population is: New York City, Chicago, Los Angeles, etc. Meanwhile, there’s only one in North Dakota and Mississippi. Why are you doing that kind of research (maybe I can help)?
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July 23, 2010 at 8:59 pm
Thank you Pat, but i am a curious person, this research was just out of curiosity.
If i have to write something, i don’t like to sound naive about it, so i started searching about abortion that is all.
But thank you very much, if i have any questions i will ask you for sure.
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July 24, 2010 at 9:47 am
Sonia, maybe you have a different take on why so-called “pro-lifers” don’t take care of the children they want others to bear. I say it’s an underlying emotional problem– a paralyzing fear of their own oblivion when they die. Have you done any research into their deficiency of care for human life, especially puzzling in view of their excessive care about their “unborn humans”?
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July 22, 2010 at 11:33 am
A peek at the site reminds me of how needy those people are.
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July 22, 2010 at 11:36 am
“those people” — Charles and his obsession.
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July 29, 2010 at 11:14 pm
One of three things are happening in these rural areas without access to decent reproductive health care.
1. Women are going through forced pregnancies.
2. Doctors in these small towns where they are the only doctor are performing them.
3. Women are traveling long distances to be able to terminate their unwanted pregnancies.
I worry that doctors who are unfamiliar with current technology might be performing them in conditions that are substandard for the standards set by the abortion industry.
If abortion is one of the forms of medicine that the doctor specializes in, and he is equipped to properly perform them according to the standards set by the community, that is fine, but if not, it could be as bad as the days when women were butchered during abortion.
It is far better that they travel and have their procedures done by someone in the community that is up to date and has the proper facilities to ensure that they are safe.
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