Besides being the day before my birthday, November 2 is Election Day. If you are concerned about the abortion issue, this is a rather important election.
At this moment, both the U.S. Senate and the U.S. House of Representatives are controlled by the Democratic Party and, for the most part, the Democrats support abortion rights. Still, the votes in the House and the Senate are often very close because there are a number of Democrats who are pro-life. We saw the impact of that situation when the Congress considered health care reform and a number of pro-life Democrats who supported the bill forced President Obama to assure them that the new law would not fund abortions. Desperate for votes, Obama took the extraordinary step of signing an Executive Order confirming that the new law would not pay for abortions. That satisfied those Democrats, so they voted for the bill.
Since the Democrats are the majority party in both houses, it means that every chairman of every committee is a Democrat. And it is in the committees where all the action is.
Every year, pro-life Members of Congress introduced legislation that would in one way or another outlaw abortion. These bills can take different approaches but the bottom line is they want to make abortion illegal again. When those bills are introduced, they are usually referred to the Judiciary Committees. The Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee is John Conyers, who is pro-choicer. When he sees these anti-abortion bills, he says thank you very much and proceeds to stuff them in a drawer, basically killing any chance of their being considered. They are DOA. The same thing happens in the Senate Judiciary Committee.
But this November, it is very possible that Democrats in the House will lose a number of seats and the Republicans could actually be in the majority. If that occurs, come next January, when the new Congress is sworn in, a bill that is introduced to outlaw abortion could very well go to a new Chairman of that committee who would probably be pro-life. In that case, it is very possible that that chairman could then take steps to move that bill for consideration. Then the battle will be on. Yes, President Obama will be there for us to veto any bad bill but the pro-choice forces will have to mobilize, raise money, etc. to fight the bill.
Then there is the U.S. Senate. When President Obama has to nominate someone for the Supreme Court, the nomination goes to the Senate Judiciary Committee, which is run by pro-choicer Pat Leahy. The current chairman will do everything he can to assure that Obama’s nomination is granted smooth sailing in the committee and on the floor of the Senate.
But should the Senate fall into the hands of the Republican Party, then you will have probably Senator Orrin Hatch of Utah as chairman and he is very pro-life. So, a nomination that is sent to his committee will have a much tougher time of it. Indeed, if the Republicans take over the Senate, there is a good chance that Obama’s pro-choice nominations will be defeated and he’ll have to nominate someone who is “neutral” on the issue of abortion.
So, the bottom line is you need to vote.
You need to do your research, find out who is running and vote for the one who is pro-choice.
You’ve got the power – use it.



October 11, 2010 at 5:33 pm
To paraphrase Dickens’ Mr. Micawber, “The Congress is a ass!”
The problem with too many Democrats is that they tremble in fear before the aborticentric hordes. If you’re going to vote Democratic, vote for people like Alan Grayson and Dan Wiener, reps who actually run on issues and principles and not on the basis of poll results and media fawning.
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October 11, 2010 at 6:36 pm
Don’t worry, Pat. We prolifers all hope that we can sin this war without suffering. But we can’t. We can only win it with great pain. And too few of us, now, are willing to endure that.
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October 13, 2010 at 9:37 am
I think you’re right, John. I think your movement is losing its passion for the most part….
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October 17, 2010 at 8:07 am
Yup, our hay day was around 1990.
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October 11, 2010 at 6:39 pm
Don’t worry, Pat. We prolifers all hope that we can win this war without suffering. But we can’t. We can only win it with great pain. And too few of us, now, are willing to endure that.
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October 12, 2010 at 6:28 am
Ah, yes! The pain of being pro-life!!! To stand in the freezing cold– except on the days I don’t want to.
To suffer a raspy voice after screaming at pregnant women all the times I decided to.
To spend all that money for gas to head to the clinic– unless I don’t feel like it.
To endure the company of the social misfits and half-baked intellects who stand shoulder-to-shoulder with me.
To see my tax dollars wasted on juvenile detention facilities, schools, health care for children,family case workers, school breakfast and lunch programs and after-school activities!
To experience the same agony as Jesus did on the cross to hear someone say, “You know, you’re nuts.”
Oh, I suffer SO much, and nobody understands, nobody cares. They all snigger behind my back. Except God.
God cares! God sees me suffer and is ready to welcome me with open arms. There’ll be a red carpet rolled out at the Pearly Gates the glorious day I arrive.
And when I’ve been given my wings and harp, I will look down upon all you miserable pro-choicers and I’ll hawk a loogie that will slime your souls ’til your dying day, when you go to Hell and beg me to rescue you.
And I will– but only after you’ve suffered the pain in Hell that I’ve suffered here on Earth already, so you’re going to be there a looooooong time.
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October 12, 2010 at 8:00 am
That’s not what I meant.
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October 12, 2010 at 8:35 am
No one can understand a word you say, you wasted your life
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October 13, 2010 at 9:37 am
I agree, Eric, that it is very hard to understand his posts…
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October 12, 2010 at 6:57 pm
>>>To see my tax dollars wasted on juvenile detention facilities, schools, health care for children,family case workers, school breakfast and lunch programs and after-school activities!<<<
don't forget affordable day care so that women can better continue with their educations, or working to make better lives for their families.
i would LOVE to see those things implemented on a widespread basis, buy both the government and by churches.
it would help the pro-life cause immensely!
but too many right wingnuts in the us fight it tooth and nail.
if you need help and ask for it, you're a sooooocialist!
if you want your taxes to go for such things, you're a sooooocialist!
if you believe that a compassionate society helps those who need help caring for themselves, you're a sooooocialist!
i would imagine a lot of them would call cristo a socialist as well.
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October 13, 2010 at 9:39 am
You’re right, Rogie… Of course, the same people will gladly accept their social security check when it comes time…
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October 12, 2010 at 7:36 am
Pat is so right…this is a very important election (of course they all are!!!) Please vote…if you don’t want to stand in line for whatever the reason…Hurry and get an “absentee balot” or if your state allows “vote early”…but please find some way to cast your ballot….women depend on you to save them and their daughters and granddaughers from the “horrors of illegal abortion”….VOTE
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October 12, 2010 at 8:02 am
Some of those daughters and granddaughters, LDM, are racing to be born. What about them?
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October 13, 2010 at 9:40 am
Some of them ain’t gonna make it, John….go save them!
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October 14, 2010 at 8:02 am
Knowing me, you’re asking for the improbably.
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October 14, 2010 at 8:02 am
improbable
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October 12, 2010 at 10:59 am
I feel so passionate about voting and specially about this election coming up. Thank you for doing your part.
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October 12, 2010 at 1:56 pm
This post is so important, I wish everybody realized.
Wake up people before is too late.
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October 13, 2010 at 4:50 am
Rogie..you are such a clear thinker for a “anti-choice” person…sometimes the “anti” part doesn’t necessarily fit you!! At least you do try to see what the needs of a women seeking abortion might be..things that might make a difference in her life. I appreciate that! Dunkle I’m not going to respond to you…..
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October 13, 2010 at 8:11 am
Don’t blame you.
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October 13, 2010 at 9:41 am
I agree, Lorraine. Rogie is at least consistent in his thinking and very practical….
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October 13, 2010 at 9:45 am
Careful, Rog, the killers’ helpers like what you’re saying.
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October 15, 2010 at 9:21 am
gee, i’m confused john.
could you clarify something for me?
when you refer to killers’ helpers, are you referring to choicers or to people who applaud those who gun down grandfather’s in their churches when they are welcoming others to worship?
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October 16, 2010 at 5:03 pm
I refer to people who want to keep it legal to kill young folks, not to those who want to stop them.
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October 16, 2010 at 8:07 pm
but killing old people in church is acceptable, eh?
thank you for that clarification. 🙂
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October 13, 2010 at 10:05 am
John Dunkle, what are you “accomplishing” by stopping a woman from having an abortion?
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October 13, 2010 at 12:02 pm
I’m saving someone’s life, Julia, and, maybe, when you killers expand your field of gory to include us old folks, maybe, she’ll save mine.
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October 13, 2010 at 11:00 am
Rogelio in #4– “It would help the [so-called] pro-life forces immensely!’
Of course caring for children would! But they’re not going to do them– they are so, so focused on abortion, they can’t let care and compassion get in the way. You’ve been unable to get so-called “pro-lifers” from the Life Chain to adopt– and you have to comfort yourself for your failure with the thought that perhaps you planted a seed. The truth is, they’re not going to.
So, what can you do? Do what every other so-called “pro-lifer” does and engage in synechdoche– the literary device where a part stands for the whole. You find one of that ilk who has adopted four kids, and you point her out to the world as proof that so-called “pro-lifers” care. 99% of them don’t– and can’t– but at least you can feel better because she is proof to you that yes, you planted a seed.
Meanwhile, for the movement as a whole, the closer life gets to being their responsibility, the less sacred it becomes….
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October 15, 2010 at 9:32 am
good morning chuckles! 🙂
maybe i gave the wrong impression when i spoke of the disappointment with life chain.
my disappointment was in trying to engage the pastors of the protestant churches to join us as a church. we were happy with the overall result, as we surpassed last year’s numbers of participants.
600 people is a large gathering for life chain. and a lot of those people have adopted their children, many of them with special needs.
and when i spoke of planting seeds, well, i plant seeds all the time.
but i was speaking of the seeds that you planted when you questioned the motivation of the life chain participants in your city. your questions might have motivated them to do something that could make a difference to someone seeking an abortion.
i know you tend to mention adoption quite a bit, as do many other choicers.
but we have to remember that adoption is an extreme option as wonderful as it might be.
it is very difficult for someone to put a child up for adoption.
i know there are always exceptions, but i think that many people don’t want someone to totally take over responsibilities on a permanent basis for them.
sometimes to make it happen, they just need some help.
offering that help on a temporary, although perhaps long term basis, could make a world of difference to someone seeking abortion.
there are other options besides adoption, and lifers need to be willing to reach out to those in need and offer that help.
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October 13, 2010 at 12:08 pm
See what Charles is doing, Rog? He’s accusing you of being too focused on abortion. A few centuries ago Charles and his ilk would have been accusing you of being too focussed on African Americans. But they wouldn’t have called them African Americans, would they, just as nowadays they don’t call the victims babies.
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October 15, 2010 at 9:36 am
i see that you are sowing seeds of discord, but that is all that i see.
he knows that i think he is misguided, and i am under no illusions that he feels the otherwise about me.
but he never said that he thinks i am too focused on abortion.
and even if he did think that, so what?
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October 17, 2010 at 8:18 am
Rog, the seeds of discord were sown when Roe said it was OK to kill young people.
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October 17, 2010 at 2:50 pm
actually, abortions were happening long before roe v wade.
those seeds were sown before then, and they are still sown.
those seeds are sown every time one human being turns his back on another in need.
they are sown every time a young woman is cast out or shamed by her family for being in an unplanned pregnancy.
they are sown every time a man beats his wife or children and others look away.
they are sown every time women need food or medicine or a roof for her children and others consumed with greed pressure legislators to vote against policies that can help implement them.
they are sown every time people raise their boys to “get him some” and declare that he is being a man, but label the girl that he “gets it from” a slut.
they are sown every time people define a sinner by his sin, and hate him for it, rather than trying to separate the two and loving him.
they are sown everytime a rapper makes millions of dollars recording songs that call women “bitch” or “ho” and glorifying violence to women, while those women live in poverty.
they are sown everytime we allow our child to buy that music and listen to it.
they are sown everytime a man looks at porn and has images of the beautiful companion that god made to be by his side, as nothing more than an object for his lust.
everytime a woman is treated in any way that demeans the dignity that she deserves as a child of god, seeds of discord are sown, and there is the possibility that if she is pregnant, she might seek an abortion.
you might think about that before you head out to stalk that staffer and her family instead of reaching out to her.
your time would be far better invested in reaching out to someone who needs a difference made in their life.
but be forewarned. there is no attention to be had doing it that way. and the only glory for that difference belongs to god and god alone.
but that’s where the miracles happen.
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October 18, 2010 at 4:18 am
Whew! Anyway, why didn’t you ask me if I reached? I did. She hid.
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October 18, 2010 at 7:47 am
i would hide from you too.
with all due respect, you seem pretty scary to me.
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October 13, 2010 at 5:48 pm
See what Charles is doing, Rog? He’s accusing you of being too focused on abortion. A few centuries ago Charles and his ilk would have accused you of being too focused on slavery. But they wouldn’t have called the victims African Americans, would they, just as nowadays they don’t call the victims babies.
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October 14, 2010 at 4:03 am
They’da used the n-word, right? Charles uses the h-word (even though I thought for sure I’d cured him of that).
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October 13, 2010 at 6:44 pm
The so-called “pro-life” movement loves to call itself the modern-day equivalent of the anti-slavery movement or the civil rights movement, but because it is at heart a dysfunctional twelve-step program, it lacks all– not even almost all– of the salient features of either.
Both of those movements involved people sacrificing their lives rather than killing others in order to rescue real people from real dangers and evils. Both of those movements required people to give beyond what was comfortable or convenient. Both of those movements required that the “rescuers” spend years changing their lives to accommodate the needs of those they had rescued.
All the so-called “pro-life” movement requires is that its members be against abortion. Hardly a standard that permits it to claim kinship with either of the others.
But dream they must! It’s part of the attempt at self-therapy that characterizes aborticentrism.
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October 14, 2010 at 4:14 am
The anti-slavery movement took centuries to succeed, the civil rights movement is still a work in progress. So you see, the pro-life movement has a way to go. Why? Because Charles is right about the pro-life movement. He’s wrong, though, about the other two. Those sacrificing not just their lives but anything in all three movements were and are minuscule.
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October 14, 2010 at 8:38 pm
Pat, I want to share a video that puts abortion in perspective, thanks to the Abortion Care Network and St. Michael’s Catholic Church, Livonia, MI
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October 15, 2010 at 4:03 am
Kate showed this last month on her blog. Puzzled me then and puzzles me now. Anybody, including you Kate, know what it means?
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October 15, 2010 at 11:29 am
Rogelio at #11:
You said: “maybe i gave the wrong impression when i spoke of the disappointment with life chain. my disappointment was in trying to engage the pastors of the protestant churches to join us as a church.”
My response: My disappointment with Life Chain is their focus on fetuses rather than children. Why can they not grasp the concept that a born fetus has needs that must be met? And what I am testing you on is whether you can make them see that more effectively than I can see that.
I could personally be enough of a bully to force a drug addict to bear a child if I was certain that the child would receive better nurture than I either got or was capable of giving. So-called “pro-lifers” don’t even bother to think about the needs of a child!
A friend of mine who ran a neo-natal intensive care unit saved the lives of children who ten years later threw rocks at her daughter and her friends in the park. As Jesus said when casting the demons into the Gadarene swine, what point is there in cleaning a house if only to have worse devils move in? I am frustrated and very angry at Life Chain people because they are no different than the most hardened so-called “pro-lifers.” They are against abortion because they want to feel potent and significant; they won’t adopt, they won’t do public school volunteering, they won’t be Big Brothers and Big Sisters, they won’t be mentors, they won’t be foster parents– and they are very often lousy parents to their own kids! Yet they think by “saving” a fetus, they are doing a child good. I can tell you from a lot of personal experience, they don’t do jack s–t.
You said: “600 people is a large gathering for life chain. and a lot of those people have adopted their children, many of them with special needs.”
You might think there are “a lot,” but show me the numbers. Have 40% of them? Forty percent is a lot, and that’s the number of kids who show up at school every morning without a decent breakfast (just how bad that is, you can find on the aborticentrism site). I’ll bet you won’t find one percent. Out of the 160 in the Life Chain I stopped, there were a lot of adoptive families, according to the leaders– one-quarter of one percent.
You said, “i was speaking of the seeds that you planted when you questioned the motivation of the life chain participants in your city. your questions might have motivated them to do something that could make a difference to someone seeking an abortion.”
I would rather have them make a difference to someone who wants to raise a child well but lacks the means, rather than persuade someone that somebody else (not the demonstrator) will love their child.
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October 16, 2010 at 12:09 am
hey there, chuck. 🙂
>>>And what I am testing you on is whether you can make them see that more effectively than I can see that.<<<
educating people is indeed a challenge
the first thing i try to teach other lifers is that choicers are not our enemies.
my enemy is not flesh and blood.
i think that is a serious problem in both camps, although there is an element in the pro-life camp that i am unsure exists among choicers.
there are choicers who flip out on pattypoo when she points out the flaws she sees in the pro-choice movement, and there are lifers who flip out on me for pointing out what i see as flaws in the pro-life movement.
but, there have been some times when lifers flipped out on me for simply being civil to choicers.
these people generally don't know my background with life issues. not just abortion, but also euthanasia, the DP, that i care for seniors and deal with alzheimers patients, etc.
i point out cristo died for choicers and that his mother intercedes for them. then i get rubbish about people rejecting his sacrifice, as though that negates that he died for them as well.
then they state that i am not pro-life because i "align myself" with them, and the choicers in question are only kind to me because i am not honest with them, blah blah blah.
these same people i speak of also make it a point to try and wound women who state that they have had abortions, and seem to feel that i should do the same.
but i can't do that. i know what it feels like to have walked away wounded from it, and i wouldn't want that for someone else.
that would be cruel beyond words.
my cause only matters because people matter. those that disagree with me are people, and they matter whether they agree with me or not.
i am just wondering of any of the choicers reading this have ever dealt with attacks by other choicers simply for tryng to be nice to someone in the other camp?
anyway, chuckie, i do try and educate other lifers and that is the first thing i try and teach them.
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October 16, 2010 at 9:51 am
rogelio, you can’t teach them that choicers are not their enemies, because they NEED an enemy in order to conduct their self-therapy. And they know that they can count on pro-choicers not killing them, so it’s a safe enemy they have, not one that is going to seriously disrupt their fantasy of heroism.
Of course Pat ruffles “pro-choice” feathers when she criticizes, but they don’t cast her out of the movement. Compare that with the reaction you get from your people, and you can better see how their psychological needs drive their logic. “Pro-choice” critics of Pat would never say she is not one of theirs, no matter how much they disagree with her, but yours divorce you.
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October 16, 2010 at 11:04 am
jajajaja
not all lifers divorce me, bro.
just the ones that are threatened by questioning their own behavior.
god’s love is inclusive, not exclusive.
the majority of lifers i know think as i do, but we are not likely to be heard.
nobody wants to read an article about people who try and reach out to others and change bad circumstances.
that doesn’t sell newspapers or increase television ratings.
and all media has an agenda that they promote.
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October 16, 2010 at 12:28 am
>>>I would rather have them make a difference to someone who wants to raise a child well but lacks the means, rather than persuade someone that somebody else (not the demonstrator) will love their child.<<<
nonetheless, i think your seeds made a difference to somebody, either directly or indirectly.
the message you offer is simple enough, chuckles.
you just want people to walk their talk.
sometimes god doesn't let seeds sprout automatically, and sometimes he does.
but i believe that when he wants, they will sprout.
i have a special request for you.
i worry that you deal with people on the fringe so often and that the frustration that you feel at their behavior will push you onto the other side of the fringe and make you forget that causes only matter because people matter.
please don't let that happen, ok?
don't let anyone frustrate you into forgetting that it is the people that matter, and that without them, there are no causes.
god bless you, chuck.
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October 16, 2010 at 9:53 am
God has a sense of humor, rogelio, and it isn’t always benevolent. Never count on God to persuade anybody to do the right thing.
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October 16, 2010 at 11:06 am
god also gave us free will.
we make the choices we make, regardless of his guidance.
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October 17, 2010 at 7:38 am
rogelio, you should read the book, “For Your Own Good,” written by a psychiatrist who wanted to understand why a whole nation would kill Jews.
It clearly shows how children’s choices throughout life are largely determined by what their parents do for and to them.
It has led me to conclude that the only person with truly free will is the insane person. Everybody else chooses based on context.
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October 16, 2010 at 12:12 am
>>>I can tell you from a lot of personal experience, they don’t do jack s–t.<<<
i have unfortunately seen the same thing from both camps, so i understand your frustration.
but i have also seen people from both camps that will open their hearts and their homes to young women who are cast out for making a mistake, or to married women who are battered and have several children in tow.
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October 16, 2010 at 9:56 am
People who open their hearts and homes. Just once, and then they go back to being their usual self.
Randy Alcorn, author of “Pro-Life Answers to Pro-Choice Questions,” mentioned how even he and his wife took in a pregnant teen to term. Once. Never did it again, and has never stopped forcing other women to bear babies nobody else wants to care for.
Alcorn said the reason to be so-called “pro-life” is that “Life loves life.”
For lunch.
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October 16, 2010 at 11:07 am
that is a shame that someone will do that once and then stop.
the blessings that come from it outweigh any inconvenience or adjustments
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October 17, 2010 at 7:39 am
. . . which is where your outlook splits off radically from the so-called “pro-lifers.”
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October 16, 2010 at 12:19 am
>>>You might think there are “a lot,” but show me the numbers. Have 40% of them?<<<
honestly, i don't know all 600 people. there were 4 of us chairs, and we all worked on it together and got the same responses from the pastors.
that begs the question of what those pastors preach at the pulpits about helping the poor, feeding the hungry and in the basis of christianity, forgiveness.
but of the people i do know who were there, i can comfortably say that half of them have at some point done, or are currently doing things that can have a positive impact,directly or indirectly, whether it be adoption, fostering, embracing women, or even couples who are in a terrible spot and seeking abortion, or supporting battered women's shelters, etc.
it is possible that there are some among the other half that have done the same and i don't know about it.
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October 16, 2010 at 5:08 pm
boy — you two guys deserve each other
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October 16, 2010 at 8:13 pm
well, thank you, john!
despite our differences, i like chuckles very much.
maybe if you ever listened to what he says, rather than making automatic ad hominem attacks, you would truly be pro-life, rather than just taking the label and perverting it.
but i understand that some people simply are too scared to look at themselves and admit to their own flaws.
god bless you, john. 🙂
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October 17, 2010 at 8:02 am
He’s not perverting the label, rogelio, He is the stereotypical sp-called “pro-lifer.” You can see from his pretended obtuseness (“I don’t understand. . .”) that he shields himself from exploration of the issues. This is behavior of a person who has something to hide.
In the case of the so-called “pro-life” movement, what they are hiding is their fixation on their own mortality– like all of us, they would rather live forever, but unlike most of us, they cannot develop the faith or reason to accept that someday they will be nothing here on Earth, but that it’s okay that it happens.
They use the fetus to represent themselves, and they play the role of God in an allegory of their own rescue from Death.
He can’t change. He is incapable of caring for a child, only of caring about fetal life.
And he’s got lots and lots of company.
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