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October 27, 2010 at 1:12 am
open this website and see the worlds authority on subject of Embryology gives proofs of inevtion made in 19th Century
REVEALED IN QURAN IN 7TH CENTURY-
http://www.quranandscience.com/human/135-dr-keith-moore-confirms-embryology-in-quran.html
ABORTION IS MURDER-
http://www.koranworld.com
Killing any person is strongly condemned in the Qur’an. God has made life sacred. Killing the children is specifically condemned as they are the helpless victims in every society.
“Say, “Come let me tell you what your Lord has really prohibited for you: You shall not set up idols besides Him. You shall honor your parents.You shall not kill your children from fear of poverty – we provide for you and for them. You shall not commit gross sins, obvious or hidden. You shall not kill any (Nafs) person – GOD has made life sacred – except in the course of justice.These are His commandments to you, that you may understand.” [6:151]
In 17:31 and 6:151, God is ordering us, not to kill the born or the unborn children.
God cares about the first three months of pregnancy:
The sincere student of the Qur’an will find out that God is telling us in 2:226 and 65:4 that the first three months of pregnancy are so important that a divorced woman will have to change her life plan if she found herself pregnant. The matter is no more of her own concern, but it is God’s concern. God’s concern is for the pregnancy and specifically for these first few months of pregnancy. Women who get divorced have an interim of three months before getting married again. This is done MAINLY to see if they are pregnant or not.God then orders them to forget their own wishes and plans and respect the new life created in their wombs. If the first three months of pregnancy were not important God would have told these women not to wait and to have abortion and keep their life plans as they wish. If a married woman get divorced before having a full marital relationship with her husband, she does not have to wait for three months, 33:49. She would have no interim. Since there is no chance of her being pregnant,the matter is only of her concern.
God cares about the whole three months of early pregnancy as much as we can see from the Qur’an’s treatment of the divorce cases. God named his first seemingly highly scientific revelation, after the hanging embryo, not by accident. This hanging embryo, is a stage that starts in 6 days after the fertilization of the ovum.
The Exception: Women who are victims of rape have enough time (6 days) to use available medical treatments to avoid any possible pregnancy.In Conclusion :
Qur’an condemns the killing of born and unborn children (6:151, 17:31,6:140,60:12), i.e. abortion is murder.
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October 27, 2010 at 1:15 am
Dear all human beings pl see the above 2 replies sent for the sake of God
Dont miss the website of Keith moore who explains the whole subject of childs growth
“He makes you in the wombs of your mothers in stages, one after another, in three veils of darkness.” (Quran 36:6)
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October 31, 2010 at 11:18 am
Abortion,not a god.Abortion is question here,but some people just don’t get it.Fine.You want to be drunk from your idea,fine by me.Just don’t except me to join you!You always find enough followers or people who agree with you crazy ideas.
By the way spitting like many other acts are also killing.So maybe we need push congress to pass the law,NO MORE SPITTING! SPITING IS GENOCIDE!
Question,what is it we kill.Is it already person or not yet.I think this should be always this pregnant person decision what kind a responsibility she takes.Is she takes the science position or religiously.
Now what about people who doing drugs or drink regularly.Many of them never use any protections or birth control.Result,WE get an other baby with oligofrenia = FAS.
Many parents and also countries just cant take care of all kind a problems what they in to.Babies who parents are on the drugs or alcoholics,babies with HIV have no change over there.Here is question:even if fetus is already person and mother kills him-her before birth,isn’t that better than slow death in the crack house???
About doctors above.Doctor of WHAT???Mathematics,history or what kind the doctor?
Many people bringing god in to this theme,like in to any other topics. So can somebody please give me too gods phone number? I would like to call him and ask my self what he’s really likes and dislikes.And what is he HATES?Like I understand,hating should be more like satan’s way but from some people I hear it all the time how god hates.
I really can’t believe people who just like to dominate over others by telling them that they “KNOW”.They,but not you.
I think most of them really believe that they have contact with god and they know.Call me marxist,communist or I don’t care what but there are also many hypocrites who just say it to make others believe and then make them selves money,power and so.
Like I said,believe what ever you want but do not push me or others to believe everything exactly the same way!The way how is it “works out” in you crazy head.
I believe too but I DO NOT KNOW! And there is difference.
Many times after saying it I got threatened that I’m going to hell.My answer was always that I better go to hell then going to be in same place with you guys.
So if here will be a law what makes abortions illegal,there are always people who is going to do it anyway!Maybe not with safely but anyway.
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October 31, 2010 at 2:24 pm
I think most of them really believe that they have contact with god and they know.
YEAH YOU LOST THE CONTACT OF GOD WHEN YOUR FOREFATHERS TAMPERED WITH THE REVEALATION OF GOD IN OLD TESTAMENT-
“How can you say we (the Jews) are wise and the law of the Lord is with us, when in fact the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie?”Jeremiah 8:8 (Revised Standard Version)
AND IN THE NEW TESTAMENT WHEN ALL WAS RIGHT WITH PROPHET JESUS’S PURE MONOTHEISTIC TEACHINGS-HEAR O ISRAEL 1ST COMMANDMENT IS GOD OUR LORD IS ONE GOD WORSHIP GOD YR LORD AND MY LORD-
luke1:1
Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled[a] among us,just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word. 3Therefore, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, it SEEMED GOOD[NOT AUTHENTIC] also to me to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus,so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught.
AND PAUL CAME WITH FABRICATED GENTILES TRINITY THE ROMAN EMPEROR AND HIS OFFICIAL RELIGION-
YES PROUDLY WE SAY WE HAVE THE DIRECT CONTACT OF GOD HIS LIKES AND DISLIKES IN THE HOLY QURAN- http://www.koranworld.com
Remember Paul’s own words:”All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.”1 Corinthians 6:12 and “And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law; To them that are without law, as without law,I am made all things to all [men], that I might by all means save some.”1 Corinthians 9:20-22.
COMPARE JESUS STAND-
“I have come not to abolish them[LAW IF THE PROPHETS]but to fulfill them”(Matthew 5:17).
PAULS STAND.
“For all who rely o the works of the law are under a curse” (Galatians 3:10); and “you who would be justified by the law; you have fallen away from grace” (Galatians 5:4).
Jesus said to the Jews: “Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof(From the KJVBible, Matthew 21:43)”
(According to the Apocalypse of Peter, this nation would come from the Arabs)
What other nation beside the modern Muslims of today bow down to GOD Almighty in the most proper way?
What other nation beside the modern Muslims Glorify GOD Almighty in their 5-daily Prayers, and fast the Month of Ramadan for Him?
YOUR YOUNGSTERS AND THE DRUNKARDS ALIKE DO ADULTRY & CONCIEVE WHEN THEY ARE IN THE STATE OF ANIMALS DESIRE AND THEN GO AHEAD AND KILL THE INNOCENT BABIES BY WAY OF ABORTION AND YOU WANT THE PHONE NUMBER OF GOD-
A contrary conclusion 180 degrees opposite Paul’s thesis should be considered in any contemplation of belief and its real-world consequences–
that belief in God can cause and has caused the cesspool of, in Paul’s words, “things which are not convenient,” such as a painful and counterproductive inordinately introspective neurosis about “sin” and a brainwashed, branded heart and mind, unwilling and unable to consider truth that conflicts with the supposed inspired revelation of the biblical text.
And who can argue seriously that, as with other faiths, retaining the biblical God in one’s knowledge can and hasn’t caused a history of worse hate and worse moral horrors than “fornication, covetousness, envy, debate, whispering, spite, pride, and disobedience to parents?”
PHONE NUMBER OF GOD IS-
http://www.koranworld.com
likes and dislikes are in
http://www.perishednations.com
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November 1, 2010 at 1:19 pm
REPLY TO-But still just a man written BOOKS.
ABORTION IS CONNECTED WITH THIS REPLY BCOZ IT IS MURDER DECLARED-BY THE CREATOR-The Quran on Semen Production-“Now let man but think from what he is created!He is created from a drop emitted Proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs:”86:5-7-QURAN” (Man was fashioned from a liquid poured out. It issued (as a result) of the conjunction of the sexual area of the man and the sexual area of the woman.”
http://www.creationofman.net/chapter1/chapter1_2.html
http://www.creationofuniverse.com/
http://www.miraclesofthequran.com/
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November 1, 2010 at 1:47 pm
NO IT ISN’T MURDER!
And the hell with the creator and all this religious crap !!!
I already said that here isn’t any reason for that.We never ever agree with each other.
Sex is same biological process like all the other bodily needs.Also here is instinct behind that.
If do not go to bathroom when it is needed,you get serious health problems.Physical and psychological.So is with the sex.Only if here is some kind a compensation like religious believes or so you can keep holding one or other little longer.And maybe here isn’t so serious consequences.
Only very strong ones can live absolutely without it.
Again they should have something else in their heads,what is compensating it.
But anyway I really don’t care what one or other saying,world is turning anyway.Or lets dogs barking but caravan keep moving forward anyway.
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November 1, 2010 at 1:19 pm
Again and again and again.Who you are people talking to.For you selves or for who???
Like I made it very clear that here isn’t no reason to talk to me about all this religious crap.
Enough already.We never ever will agree with each other.About this issue no agreement with me and with nobody. Already because that I do not look for agreement about this topics.
I will never even explain to you or anybody else about my position about religion.What I believe and how.
I was just trying to explain mine about abortion topics,but this is like a drugs.Always turning in to the religion land.It is like addiction.Just can’t without it.
Ou well.
Mine is mine and yours is yours!End of the story!
PS.This wasn’t Christians who started World War Two.Or you trying to forget Zarathustra and Zoroastrianism,Frederich Nietzsche who and what was pattern for national socialists.
Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeitepartei and Christianity doesn’t fit in to same category at all.
And many wars started also muslims.So it wasn’t always Christians who started wars.
But for me it doesn’t make any difference who are they calling them selves.
Like I said this isn’t Nazism,Communism,Christianity,Islam,Judaism,Hinduism,Shamanism or …. what starting something.This is always humans who’s taken the action.
I can put who knows what in to book,but if you going to kill or making the war because this book,it is only you and nobody else fault!
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November 1, 2010 at 1:41 pm
Dear sir
sprry if iam bothering you but i am empahsising the point on yr thinking that God is not involved in the case of abortion.
he is the Only authority who is capable to make semen in your body which is the production drop of fluid entering the embyro-to concieve.REMINDING YOU THIS YR STATEMENT-Of corse if you taking everything from religious perspective and believe that this was god who put this “baby” in to mothers uterus,on that case is it understandable.Only me and many others don’t agree with this allegation.I cant say that I don’t believe it all.It can be like that and behind everything is god.We just don’t know it.But what we know is that fetus got in to her uterus thanks for me and her.
ANSWER=http://www.creationofman.net/chapter1/chapter1_2.html
”Now let man but think from what he is created!He is created from a drop emitted Proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs:”86:5-7-QURAN” (Man was fashioned from a liquid poured out. It issued (as a result) of the conjunction of the sexual area of the man and the sexual area of the woman.”
PROOF OF QURAN THAT IT IS FROM YOUR CREATER AND YOU ARE DUTY BOUND BIRTH RIGHT TO LISTEN AND ACCEPT IT =
http://www.creationofuniverse.com/
http://www.miraclesofthequran.com/
THIS IS AM DOING FOR YR SALVATION-
“Whoever wishes for a way of life other that Islam, never will it be accepted from them and in the hereafter they will be amongst the losers”.[Noble Quran 3:85]
“This day we have completed your religion for you and perfected our favor upon you and chosen for your way of life Islam”.
[Noble Quran 5:3]
“Most of them do not believe in Allah except while joining partners with Him”
[Noble Quran 12:106]
“Verily, We have sent to every nation a messenger saying: ‘Worship Allah and avoid false objects of worship'”Noble Quran 16:36]
“And they say the Compassionate (i.e. Allah) has taken to Himself a son. Certainly you utter a disastrous thing, whereby the heavens are almost torn asunder, and the earth split open and the mountains crumbles to ruin, that you ascribe to the Compassionate a son! When it is not befitting the majesty of the Compassionate that He should choose a son. There is none in the heavens or the earth but comes to the Compassionate as a slave”
[Noble Quran 19:88-93]
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November 1, 2010 at 1:44 pm
DONT MISS THIS TO SEE IN YOUR ANGER-
http://www.creationofman.net/chapter1/chapter1_2.html
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November 1, 2010 at 7:52 pm
THIS REPLY ALSO IS CONNECTED WITH ABORTION AS THE PEOPLE WHO USED TO BURY EVERY NEW BORN GIRL CHILD BEFORE THE BIRTH OF MUHAMMAD and the right to live was given by the laws in the Quran.
Surah 105. Al-Fil (The Elephant)
In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
1. Seest thou not how thy Lord dealt with the Companions of the Elephant?
2. Did He not make their treacherous plan go astray?
3. And He sent against them Flights of Birds,
4. Striking them with stones of baked clay.
5. Then did He make them like an empty field of stalks and straw, (of which the corn) has been eaten up.
The Year of the Elephant (in Arabic, عام الفيل, `Âm al-Fîl) is the name in Islamic history for the year approximately equating to 570 AD. According to Islamic tradition, it was in this year that Muhammad was born.[1] The name is derived from an event said to have occurred at Mecca in which Abraha, the Christian ruler of the principality of Saba’ in Yemen (although differing accounts make him either a viceroy of the Kingdom of Axum or as having broken away and styled himself King of Saba’ ; the scholarly concensus from inscriptions is that his domain was limited to Yemen and adjoining areas, he started out as a viceroy of the Ethiopians then, declared himself king), marched upon the Kaaba with a large army, which included one or more elephants, intending to demolish it. However, the elephant is said to have stopped at the boundary around Mecca, and refused to enter. The year came to be known as the Year of the Elephant, beginning a trend for reckoning the years in Arabia which was used until it was replaced with the Islamic calendar during the rule of Umar.
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November 1, 2010 at 11:34 pm
To:
THIS REPLY ALSO IS CONNECTED WITH ABORTION AS THE PEOPLE WHO USED TO BURY EVERY NEW BORN GIRL CHILD BEFORE THE BIRTH OF MUHAMMAD.
Abortion isn’t murder! Abortion isn’t murder! Abortion isn’t murder! abortion isn’t murder! Abortion isn’t murder! Abortion isn’t murder!
Because foetus(Am.fetus) isn’t baby yet! Foetus isn’t baby yet! Foetus isn’t baby yet! Foetus isn’t baby yet! Foetus isn’t baby yet!
Is it getting trough to you?
Or you trying to tell me that science and scientists are wrong and you believes are right?
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November 1, 2010 at 8:13 pm
REPLY TO-Also here is instinct behind that
ABORTION DISLODGES THE SANCTITY OF A FAMILY SYSTEMA .IT WAS GIVEN BY GOD TO SEE THAT MANKIND REPRODUCES TO CONTINUE THE LIFE ON EARTH-WHEN IT IS NOT DONE IN RESPECTED MANNER LIKE MARRIAGE COMMITMENT AND LET THE CHILD TAKE BIRTH AND GIVE HAPPINESS TO THE PARENTS AND CONTINUE THE PROCESS FOR COMING GENERATIONS.
IF IT WAS TAKEN AS URGE OR REQUIREMENT THEN MAN WILL BECOME ANIMAL PRONE TO PUNISHMENT.
PERPERATORS OF EVIL ANY WHERE IN THE WORLD-
SEE THE BODIES OF ASH POMPEII OPEN YR EYES TURN TO YR CREATOR-
HOW MANY GENERATIONS DID WE DESTROY[Surah 50name kahf ] http://www.perishednations.com
http://www.koranworld.com
OR HE WILL TAKE ANYONE TO TASK FOR EXPOSURE-
Rome
-http://creatorstruth.ning.com/video/italy-travel-pompeii-residents
http://creatorstruth.ning.com/video/people-of-pompeii
http://creatorstruth.ning.com/video/the-wonders-of-pompeii
http://creatorstruth.ning.com/video/petrified-bodies-in-pompeii
http://creators truth.ning.com/video/pompeii-ash-volcano-excavation
http://creatorstruth.ning.com/video/bodies-1
http://creatorstruth.ning.com/video/nicole-queen-converts-after
http://creatorstruth.ning.com/video/tv-report-on-zdf-successful
http://creatorstruth.ning.com/video/i-am-free
http://creatorstruth.ning.com/video/4000-german-convert-to-islam
DEAR U HAVE TIME TILL ANGEL OF DEATH WILL TEAR APART AND TAKE OUR SOUL FROM OUR BODY-
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November 1, 2010 at 11:21 pm
To Ali!
As-Salamu Alaykum
I am sorry also if I didn’t make it clear enough yet.I really tried and now I don’t get what was wrong with my explanation.
Al right it’s all good.I’ll try again
All this you wrote to me is you opinion.Also understanding of Qur’an and Islam is you opinion,what comes from you believes.And this is what I just said is my opinion of you contact with all this.
Anyway you can and probable will approach to all of it from very different position and location.Like I said you are you and I’m me.
In you mind probable Islam connecting everybody to anyone.Of corse only if they accept Islam.
I don’t know but for me seems that just logical if you feel like that.
Now about you allegations of salvation,Allah,Islam. First I want to thank you for trying to help and save me.I really do.Even if I cant believe it like you and if it is all true how you believe it then here is still not salvation for me.
I thank you but I just can not believe it like Quran teaching or you telling me.You and I just “translating”, I mean understanding of Quran and also would the same with Bible,is very different from mine.Beside you I am not religious person.Not it all.But my opinion is that everything is relative and then even I can fit into religious category. Not like you but still.
Here is my question to you.All the other religions and tutelage profess from same positions,that only we are right.Only this and that or our theory,teaching,religion,believes are right and everybody else doesn’t get you anywhere else than hell.
So now why I just need to pick and believe yours and not others. There is this difference what makes you believer and not me.Like I said it isn’t absolutely right division but anyway.
There are also many differences between all this religions,teachings.But I think this is wrong to look specifically for those differences and then start accuse each other about those different interpretations.I think that way more important is similarities what connecting us.But even then I stay away from any of them.It is just me and I am not very much in to people and collectives. I respect many of them but what is always shows up is that red neck type psychos.People who I really hate.I just cant close my eyes about them and go to connect with others. But this is me and my problem what doesn’t count here in this topics.
But here is also some fundamental issues what I disagree with one or other.By the materialistic philosophies evolution mainly fits in.But by the most idealistic philosophies and theological or religious accepts it doesn’t.
I do not disagree with evolution or either religious accepts.Both can be right and both can also be wrong.And in the same time.Anything is possible but yeah, I’ll try to be realistic.But still even that can be possible.If you familiar with Buddhism you understand what I meant.
Anyway I’m not trying to make you adopt my ideas and push over yours.I’m not trying to do anything but just explaining again and answering to you question.Actually to misunderstanding. Like I already said few times that I do not like to talk about all this what and how I feel and believe.About my believes and my spirituality but like I see that there is something what you trying to do for me.That’s why I explain little more about me self.
Anyway thank you again but here is no changes from my side.Never say never but never.I am not a person who is going to change or who you can help to get salvation.
Families and sexual relationships without marriage.Also here I do not see anything wrong.I believe if god exist he do not care about it all how and with who we having the sex.And by human perspective here is nothing wrong with it far as nobody doesn’t get hurt.
From animals we have lot to learn.On some cases they are way smarter than we.Here isn’t any logical thinking what they probable have but even without it they living and acting sometimes like on the right tracks. But not we.
Opinion about making semen and all this.I am certainly confirmed that this is me who’s making semen and not god.Is it happen with gods help or not, I do not know.Don’t know and like I learned I just leave it like it is.Before I was looking for answers here and there.Was looking hard but now I am reconcile that there is lot of … and no answers.
But semen is making me.Not god but me.God doesn’t need any semen and if he exist like that then he have all universe or absolute with semen and everything.So I’m making it.Do not know with or without his help but this is me.Maybe me with my semen and everything belong to god.But maybe not.For me here is no answer and it just seems to me absurd to think about it.Simple truth.Here is no answer and then WHY.
Anger? This isn’t so much anger in me than frustration,disappointment-disillusionment.I’m just very disappointed from people.Not from all of them.Like I said there are many very nice and good people.But I can’t deal with human mass.Mass who’s always running in to wars and then coming back tail between the legs like beaten dog.
Mass who was with the inquisition and watched with pleasure how our most brilliant minds got burned middle of the city squares.Mass who are ready for everything only if you wash their brains enough.
This is reason of my frustration-disappointment.And sometimes they make me angry.It is true.
So it makes me sometimes feel that I better be animal in the deep deep forest than so named human.
Again,this is my problem and it doesn’t concern you or you views or ideas.It is me who need to deal with it.
Anyway thanks again and good luck on your way what I hope takes you finally in to Jannah!
Insha’Allah
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November 2, 2010 at 12:36 am
ANSWER TO-I believe if god exist he do not care about it all how & with who we having the sex-IST THING IS THE POMPEII EXAMPLE DIDNT OPEN YR EYES NOR EFFECT YR REASONING-
SEE http://www.perishednations.com
2ND IF GOD WANTED HUMAN BEINGS TO LIVE AS ANIMALS MATING ONE STREET DOG WITH ANOTHER STREET BITCH-THEN MOSES[RETURNED FROM THE MOUNT WITH 10 COMMANDMENTS[You shall not commit adultery]& SAW PEOPLES MASS ADULTRY
God(Allah in Arabic) never destroys the righteous people. Allah SWT never destroys any community unjustly as He confirms:
[Koran 6:47]“Say: Have you considered if the chastisement of Allah should overtake you suddenly or openly, will any be destroyed but the unjustpeople?”
[Koran 6:131] “(The apostles were sent) thus, for thy Lord would not destroy for their wrong-doing men’s habitations whilst their occupants were unwarned.”
[Koran 11:117] “And it did not beseem your Lord to have destroyed the towns tyrannously, while their people acted well.”
[Koran 18.59] “And (as for) these towns, We destroyed them when they acted unjustly, and We have appointed a time for their destruction.”
[Koran 38:3]“How many did We destroy before them of the generations, then they cried while the time of escaping had passed away.”
[Koran17:17]“And how many of the generations did We destroy after Nuh! and your Lord is sufficient as Knowing and Seeing with regard to His servants’ faults.”
[Koran 5:98] “Know that Allah is severe in requiting (evil) and that Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.”
Allah SWT destroyed entire community[HOMOSEXUALS of prophet Lut(peace be upon him) but He saved Lut(Lot) and his family(except his wife[Koran 54:34]“Surely We sent upon them a stonestorm,except Lut’s followers;We saved them a little before daybreak.”
[Koran 11:32] “They(wicked people of Nuh) said: O Nuh! indeed you have disputed with us and lengthened dispute with us, therefore bring to us what you threaten us with, if you are of the truthful ones.”
[Koran 21:76] “And Nuh, when he cried afore time, so We answered him, and delivered him and his followers from the great calamity.”
[Koran 2:50] “And when We parted the sea for you, so We saved you and drowned the followers of Firon and you watched by.”
[The Noble Koran 8:54] “In the manner of the people of Firon[PHAROAH]and those before them;they rejected the communications of their Lord, therefore We destroyed them on account of their faults and We drowned Firon’s people, and they were all unjust.” [Koran 73:16] “But Firon disobeyed the apostle, so We laid on him a violent hold.”
[Koran 10:92] “We will this day deliver you with your body that you(Firon) may be a sign to those after you, and most surely the majority of the people are heedless to Our communications.”
PL WAKE UP FROM YR SLEEP BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE-
[Koran 3:102] “O you who believe! be careful of (your duty to) Allah with the care which is due to Him, and do not die unless you are true Muslims[SUBMITTERS].”
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November 2, 2010 at 4:44 am
You forget coincidences and possibility that there isn’t god behind all of it.
Possibility that god maybe doesn’t exist at all.That all this can be just somebody delirious raving and nothing there.
Agree that you or nobody cant prove any of that.So that lives us possibility that maybe nothing there at all.
So Pompeii just happened and everything else.
Moses if he existed is dead now.From where or from what mount he can come if he is dead.Dead bodies doesn’t walk and Moses body is already rotten,long gone.
Sex is sex and why god suppose to care when how and with who we doing it.Why he even made us like we are if we have so many bad sides.Is he really is this perfect god if he even cant do better job to create world,people and everything???
And if I’m looking at all of this it seems to me very very lousy job.We have so damn many mistakes and bad sides.Seems like if there is god and maybe satan also so this is who created us was satan.Not god but satan.Look at all this what we are doing to each other and animals and all nature and so and so.Is this is really it what god wanted???Or was creator maybe in the hangover when he engineered us???
And you talking to me about sex.Even if allegation about origin sin is true and sex is such a sin,it is still nothing compare many many other things what we do!!!
You saying that I’m sleeping.Maybe so but I do not see it that a way.You hope me to believe you and wake up like you say.
Even if start believing you now like it is,it would be dogmatical believing.Believing what I’m never ever able to do.When I got engineered from god,nature,monkey or what ever,my opinion is from my parents, there was something what leaved completely out dogmatical side from me.I’m just not able to believe anything like that.
If you can think,so think about it from where I suppose to get this believing.I can’t pay it from the store.
It never isn’t like you making the decision that now I start believe and so it is.It’s just isn’t and nothing I or anybody else can do about it.
And by the way for me seems it that my eyes are way more open then others who are blinded by religion and their own believes.Religion just closing you eyes if you taken things dogmatically!
Also about angel or angels who is coming to collect our spirits.It’s all sounds to me like some kind a fairy tale for children.
I never ever agree with people who saying that others who living their life with believing god going to paradise even if they making some very bad mistakes.Means that they did something very bad put later prayed forgiveness from god and this is it.Gates are open for him.
And people who maybe are very good persons and living all their life very peacefully with helping others who are in trouble and needed help are still staying behind the paradise gates because they do not assimilate Christianity or Islam or that and this.
I’m sorry and also sure that all this is absolute crap! Just poll !!!
Here is not even question about it if something really existing there on the other side.
So like you see here is some very serious differences between us and like you recommending me to wake up so do I.I recommend you to open you eyes and wake up before life is over and too late to understand anything any more.
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November 2, 2010 at 7:05 am
ONCE THE CREATORS AUTHORITY IS PROVED THEN HIS ORDER ON ABORTION WILL VALID FOR YOU THAT IT IS 1000%MURDER BECAUSE IT IS LIFE WHICH IS SNUFFED BY THE CO-OPERATION OF THE MOTHER[SAVIOUR]BECOMING THE HOMICIDE KILLER-
WE WILL GO HERE ONWARDS WITH SCIENTIFIC RPOOFS ABOUT THE CREATOR YOUR LORD&MY LORD Or you trying to tell me that science& scientists are wrong and you believes are right?
http://creatorstruth.ning.com/video/the-moon-has-split-THIS LINE WHICH SHOWS ON THE MOON AS RING OF JOINT IS A PHOTO TAKEN ON NASA’S VISIT TO THE MOON-
AS YOU HAVE READ IN THE WEBSITE THE MIRACLE WAS PERFORMED BY A ILLITERATE PROPHET LIVING IN THE DESERT OF SAUDI ARABIA 1400 YEARS AGO-[ALL THE GREAT WORLD CONQUERORS PASSED THIS DESERTS ARABS THOUGHT THEM TO BE A LIABILTIY TO THE WORLD THEY DIDNT EVEN BOTHER TO LOOK AT THEM-
NEXT WILL CONTINUE TOMORROW ALL SCIENTIFIC PROOFS-
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November 2, 2010 at 7:09 am
SMALL MISTAKE DUE TO – ADDED IN THE ABOVE WEBSITE LINE CLICK THIS FOR THE MIRACLE OF ALL CENTURIES-
http://creatorstruth.ning.com/video/the-moon-has-split
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November 2, 2010 at 7:20 am
SORRY THE OTHER VIDEO ABOVE IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE PL CLICK THIS FOR THE WHOLE REPORT-
http://creatorstruth.ning.com/video/introduction-to-split-moon
http://creatorstruth.ning.com/video/moon-split-moon-cracked
http://creatorstruth.ning.com/video/was-moon-really-split-in-half
http://creatorstruth.ning.com/video/muslim-scientist-neil
ARMSTRONG
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November 3, 2010 at 1:36 am
Like I said that spit is also life.Life is everywhere.Would you like to make the law,what would make spiting illegal,because it seems like genocide.You killing millions,if spiting.
But human spit isn’t this person him self or any other human ben who spit is it.So isn’t human embryo or foetus.What is a point here to apply the laws what is maid for people.Not for human embryos,not for mammals,microbes or ghosts,humanoids or who knows what.
And if you kill the animal because you hunting isn’t murder.Not by the law or in most people minds.If there is small group of vegetarians who thinking so anyway,doesn’t change the reality or laws what’s starting point is reality.
Same story with the abortion.If some religious people calling it murder,doesn’t make any difference.Sadly we have everywhere too many people who are under the too strong influence of religion.
Like alcohol and drugs changing you adrenaline in the body,same story with many other things.Music,sports,religion,movies and so and so.
Put again this is not excuse.It isn’t isn’talcohol,narcotics,music,Bible,Koran,sports or this and that fault.This is the person who let him self in to this kind a situation where he should be more careful.Everybody should know him self that much and if this or that is too much for him just stay away for that kind a things or even places.And if he can’t,means that he needs a “HELP” !
Countries with totalitarian system or tyrant taking very good “CARE” of this kind a citizens who like to live somewhere else but reality.In democracy is it way more complicated.And this is the reason why we have so many gods,messiahs or people who’s talking to UFO humanoids,ghosts or who knows what else.Maybe we need to learn something from communist countries.Maybe it wouldn’t be such a bad idea to keep this kind a citizens in places with special “CARE”.
About science are all kind a webpages,shows,or THINGS everywhere.From TV you can watch every day show about Christian science . Is it really science? NO,NO and NO !!!
If you or some others taking all this pseudo like science it isn’t anybody else fault !
It is you and nobody else who need to find a way to the real scientific material. Information,what is in encyclopedias.Not some kind a Christian Encyclopedia or so but real encyclopedias.There is serious web pages,libraries,universities,academies everywhere.
But also web pages what telling you that huge UFO is right here at our planet Earth.We just don’t see it but it’s there. And US president have connection with them.That they directing him what and how to do.
Isn’t that kind a rubbish doesn’t seem little familiar.For me it show very clearly parallel with those ultra religious fanatics and their believes.
Same thing that something is somewhere but you just can’t see it.Nobody can but he’s there.And some our people.means messiahs, have contact with him.So they know exactly what is right and what is wrong.What to do and how to live.
Doesn’t matter for me.I just don’t care about this crazy world.Too crazy,because too many crazes are there.
I just know that if they pass such a idiotic law what’s makes abortions illegal then here is always ladies and will be doctors who would heelp them anyway.
They can’t even stop the drugs,what is obvious for everybody that this kind things isn’t good for you at all.Even users know it well.
So my saying is to them:”YOU GO GIRL !” F… the law if it is so idiotic.IDIOTIC because people who push to pass that kind a law are under the strong influence.Their adrenalin pumping out from limits. Pumping because this what is going in their heads aren’t normal.
So their place is in the mental institution and F… the law what THEY made !!!
Again long letter what doesn’t change anything.Like I said that it is not my purpose to change you mind.But you still keep writing and like I understand that you like to change my mind.
I think that I made it so many times very very clear that it is NOT GOING TO HAPPEN !!! Even if I would like to it is still impossible! And I explained the reason for it is that I can not by those believes from the store.What I don’t have,that I do not have.And that’s way it is IMPOSSIBLE !
Maybe you waiting that god lets happen the miracle and I will be believer.
I so,it’s very nice to know that I’m such a important dude what makes exception for god and he let happen the miracle.
But it is not going to happen even in your wildest dreams!
I’m living in the very dark IRON realistic world.And here aren’t even smallest winds what would blow just the smallest change in to my life about that issue.
I probable die like that and I want to die with this understanding.Because I know that I wasn’t so damn drunk.Only thing what I used to get drunk was alcohol and that’s how it suppose to be.Least for me.So my mind is clear and if there are some kind a different level after death then I least go with the clear mind.And if god really exist then I’m sure that he would like it!
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November 3, 2010 at 3:44 am
REPLY-
Abortion.If some religious people calling it murder,
DEAR BOSS REPLY IS—IT IS NOT SOME RELIGIOUS PEOPLE SAYING IT IS YR CREATOR SAYING TO YOU AND ME AND ALL OF US-BY THROUGH REVELATION-
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November 3, 2010 at 5:08 am
Did you meet a guy?To believe it through some book what look like children fairy-tale you can say anything.Paper keeps everything and everybody can write on that what ever he wants.
Interestingly Personaly I don’t know anybody with the name Creator.Never met him.On some papers yeah.There is all kind a stories about somebody like creator.
Personally never met the guy and never heard anything what he say or said.
But I know what saying science and this is that abortion is NOT the murder.
Also science saying that people come along thanks for evolutionary process.Not thanks for somebody with the name Creator but evolution.It doesn’t need to be exactly true but still seems to me way more realistic than some kind a fairy tale.Story where somebody said that now lets have earth and now lets have man and everything happened. Sounds like ABSURD !
But here can also be something else what can make both versions right.Or least logical.
If you think this seven days and nights can be in our measurement maybe seven billion years and in this time period can it happen.
But who is this creator and what he did what made this big pum or process what started process,isn’t so easy to put in to logic frames.
Of corse creator can be just this big explosion it self.Or just some people imagination to solve the questions what they had or what we always will have.Like always are things-questions where you are not able to find any explanations.Least not right away.But also questions where you never find any explanations. Why not to call it god. So like all this mysterious have name god.
Like I already explained that we have way more important questionings and problems to solve than something witch is obvious that now answer here.I think that let just forget all this fairy tale stile stories and start work with something more important what gets us somewhere.
So just forget a god and all this crap what doesn’t get us anywhere and work with something what does.
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November 4, 2010 at 5:10 am
Again,did you met a guy???
Slave. ??? I think if someone is slave then this is religious person.Not atheist who is free from all kind religious believes and also all this crap.
You can’t open your hearth to someone or something what doesn’t exist.Otherwise you are just crazy.
I heard what mankind says but didn’t hear a word from somebody who doesn’t exist.
You just can’t love,hear or do anything to-with other man hallucination.
I agree that evolution theory have some weak points but it doesn’t mean that it’s all absolutely wrong.About all kind a “facts” what suppose to proof that evolution is absolutely wrong you can find from this Christian science shows all the time.Also about Noah ship and everything everything.Rest of depend from you.You believe this crap or not.It is like all religion based on the believes.Not facts but believes.
Version that evolution is build on the rotten foundation can be true but on what kind foundation is build religion?NONE. No foundation at all!
I think that you probable saying that on the holy word like Quran.Again just a man written book.
So, rotten but real foundation and no foundation at all.OK let say book.
One based on some kind a facts but other on somebody said words.
One maintain evolutionary process and other telling you some kind a fairy tail.
Witch one seems more logical?
Personally like I said that one isn’t absolute crap and god maybe exist.But also I do not start build again all kind conjectural presumptions what I already did many times and didn’t get me anywhere.
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